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Again with this?No he is not, he holds back
There is 0 evidence of him being stronger than them, the Royal Guards are already at 30 ATK, Papyrus is only 20. Not even Toriel, who massively holds back against Frisk, has 80 ATK/DEF in her CHECK, meaning that the CHECK stats show their full power than what they're using at the moment.
This sounds more argument from incredulity than anything ngl. Asgore would simply massively outscale the cast and that's it.Undyne already scales to Flowey in her Undying form, I really don't see anything that'd scale Base Undyne to Flowey, especially since doing so would put Asgore and co at the same Tier as Papyrus