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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Breadbear83 said:
you calced gerson´s Weight of 802kg but on the results i only see the 3699kg hammer weight, its not being used?
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Gerson himself moved a lot less than hammer. You can figure this out, but it's too much hassle for not that much of gain. I am gonna Gerson weight for other calcs.

Breadbear83 said:
also it was discussed in this staff thread (and unfinished one without applied changes, like most of them...) that LS feats may require the rules of KE,
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Informally they already do. But Gerson is 803 kg turtle moving 3700 kg hammer. He satisfies KE rules with ease
 
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If Toby follows meteorological seasons then we have only one more day to get a Spring Newsletter (if he follows astronomical, then June 21 is the cut-off point). Has there ever been a season without a Newsletter since they started?
 
Qurbonboev said:
I sometimes wonder if Rodri and Charizard are right, and we wank verse too much. But as anyone knows, you shouldn't trust intrusive thoughts.
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(Lowkey, they do have some good points, they're just presented in the most brutal way possible, so it's hard to side with them without coming off like you hate the verse on a personal level)

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure abt this calc, it seems we're stretching the KE rules a little too much here just to get a higher rating, but then again, this might also make 7-C matchups possible so-
 
IDK3465 said:
(Lowkey, they do have some good points, they're just presented in the most brutal way possible, so it's hard to side with them without coming off like you hate the verse on a personal level)

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure abt this calc, it seems we're stretching the KE rules a little too much here just to get a higher rating, but then again, this might also make 7-C matchups possible so-
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Yeah, some of the stuff they said seemed reasonable, though they seemed to be trying to do a lot at once.

I would've suggested it be split, but it had already been so far into discussion, it didn't seem productive at the time, sorry to say.
 


On a more Deltarune general note, there's now a way to skip most of board 2. Appears to also enable going OoB in TV Time! boards.
Though it seems it involves a near or actually frame-perfect trick.
Obviously, not really powerscaling relevant, since it's a glitch. (Unless someone plans to like, make a JBW or FCOC Wiki profile for Mini Kris/HERO_SWORD with glitches.)
 
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Edutyn said:
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Evaluated
Need Evaluation

AP:
Susie throws Tenna: 107572 joules (Wall level)
Jevil drops a giant scythe: 207806.374362 J (Wall level)
Susie & Kris Fall: 284475 joules (Wall Level)
Susie destroy toilet: 484840 joules (Wall level)
Ralsei hates darkners: 1433405J (Wall Level)
Susie carries Tenna: 4495410 joules (Wall Level)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: 0.004 tonnes of TNT (Wall Level)
Golden Tenna is kicked: 0.00598707656 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level)
Spamton Neo GPE: 0.02140910457 tons of tnt to 0.03167987091 tons of tnt (Small Building Level)
The Gang slams into a door: 0.061 tonnes (Small Building Level)
The Weather Duo Temparature Feats: 0.02722124582 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level) & 0.09241312608 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level)
Giga Queen PE: 0.028 Tons of TNT (Building Level to 0.2691189306 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)
Spamton Neo Explosion: 0.15 Tons (Small Building Level)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: 0.328 tonnes of TNT(Building Level)
Baseball PE: 1.01502071142 Tons of TNT (Building Level)
Giga Queen has mad hops: 2.82016951411 Tons of TNT (Large Buiding Level)
Titan Fist: 3.03 tonnes of TNT (Large Building Level)
Thrash Machine punches a baseball: 6.4681948663 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)
Detatchable Hands KE: 4.94373372693 MJ up to 6.96338152094 Tons of TNT (Wall Level to Large Building Level)
A cat ball: 127,72003207 Tons of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's PC Final Attack: 142.05 tonnes of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's Switch Final Attack: 166 tonnes of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: 626.10413327 Tons of TNT (Multi-City Block Level+)
Gerson is fast: 0.4 tonnes of TNT to 4.944 kilotons (Building Level to Small Town Level+)
Tenna's Weather Report: 910.1375932 Tons Of TNT up to 347.95797 Kilotons (Multi-City Block Level+ up to Large Town Level)
Miss Mizzle creates a storm: 3.3644010516252 Megatons (Small City Level)

Speed:
Golden Tenna is kicked: 28.9330285714m/s (Superhuman)
Rudinn dashes off: 20.9004444445 m/s up to 104.502222222 m/s (Superhuman to Subsonic)
Thrash Machine punches a baseball: 135.1268572 m/s (Subsonic)
Spamton Neo Explosion: 144.658064516m/s (Subsonic))
Giga Queen has mad hops: 150.7757143 m/s (Subsonic)
Shadowguy dashes off: 28.2249305555 m/s up to 169.349583333 m/s (Superhuman to Subsonic)
Jevil Final Chaos Speed: 335.900000001 m/s (Transonic)
Knight sword slash speed: Mach 1.4664003415 (Supersonic)
Spamton Neo can make his hands into phones: Mach 1.66 (Supersonic)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: Mach 2.94 (Supersonic+)
Mics, Cats & SOUL Check: Mach 8.5 (Hypersonic) | Mach 3.41666666667 (Supersonic+) | Mach 7 (Hypersonic)
A cat ball: Mach 8.55555555556 (Hypersonic)
Detatchable Hands KE: 43.64560153 m/s to Mach 9.768429826 (Subsonic to Hypersonic)
Mike's Switch Final Attack: Mach 16.9 (Hypersonic+)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: Mach 25.2 (High Hypersonic)
Mike's PC Final Attack: Mach 33 (High Hypersonic)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: Mach 40 (High Hypersonic)
Cat Big Paw: Mach 79.8 (High Hypersonic+)
The cats are fast: Mach 216.4 (Massively Hypersonic)
Gerson is fast: Mach 2.78 to Mach 308.3 (Supersonic to Massively Hypersonic)
Tenna's Smash Cut: 447.866666667 m/s to Mach 324.198250729 (Supersonic to Massively Hypersonic) (?)
Titan Laser: 55.0555555556c (FTL+) (It probably won't be accepted, but whatever)


LS:
Kris throws SOUL: 1.5 tonnes (Class 5)
Susie throws Tenna: 302 tonnes (Class K)
Spamton Neo GPE: 633,218.627296 kg to 849,556.67565 kg (Class K)
Golden Tenna is kicked: 1513.4205363 Tons (Class M)
Giga Spamton is pushed: 4278.43879792 Tons to 5740.16001022 Tons (Class M)
Spamton Neo can make his hands into phones: 20860 tons (Class M)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: 28993 tons (Class M)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: 384982 tons (Class M)
Giga Queen has mad hops: 478,649.6414 Tons (Class M)
A cat ball: 159066953.35 Tons (Class G)
Mike's PC Final Attack: 204.24 million tons of force (Class G)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: 270564838.768 tons (Class G)
Gerson is fast: 102858 tons of force to 1.27 billion tons of force (Class M to Class T)
 
Breadbear83 said:
you calced gerson´s Weight of 802kg but on the results i only see the 3699kg hammer weight, its not being used?

also it was discussed in this staff thread (and unfinished one without applied changes, like most of them...) that LS feats may require the rules of KE, like they showing decent damage on enviroment for the KE taking priority over the actual destruction (in gersons feat, that small hammer did even more than him, that ´´more´´ being shaking the screen a bit), but for now the calc seems fine

BTW i made sligthly supporting calc for Dark World Susie
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You can count this feat, I'm gonna change the value a bit with the pixel scaling reaching Lancers right ear instead of his left ear, but still subsonic
 
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