Ultimate lifeforms fight

[JohnConquest1]

Super Buuhan who literally has better AP, Regen, and an actual way of incapping Doomsday, barely was considered capable of incapaciting Doomsday in a previous thread thats not even on either of their profiles. Solely going by how his chocolate beam works. Cell has no real way of doing something like that here let alone a way to do any real damage, Doomsday can very easily just one shot this and call it a day.

Doomsday stomps

 

[Akreious]

"Cell has no real way of doing something like that here let alone a way to do any real damage, Doomsday can very easily just one shot this and call it a day."

Besides pulling a Goku you mean.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Cell is smarter, has a more reliable way to win (because doomsday flexing just nulls absorbtion), and he also has the advantage in his kids, who could teleport doomsday in his place.

The very idea that Cell would just get close enough to be one-shot is a stretch.

 

[JohnConquest1]

Literally Cell doing something he has never done before, hell the only reason Goku even did it was so that Cell wouldn't destroy the earth and Cell was taking an awfully long time to even do that so its not likely combat applicable.

Even if we were to discredit that above point though who would even say he'd lead with it (something he would need to do here) or even be pushed to using it considering his genetics and ego.

As for Doomsdays Power Null It only Nulls if it expressively harms Doomsday, which Buus Absorption doesn't.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

What do you mean if combat aplicable? He only needs to touch him and his forehead, obviously it it. And the "he never did it before" was already countered.

He does not need to lead with it, no. Doomsday goes for punches normally, and he doesn't have the range or senses to snipe if cell desides to get away. Him winning by eceryone dying of lack of oxygen isn't exaxtly for his ego, yet he was gonna do it. Seriously, this is like saying goku will let the enemy power up to the point that they slap him just because he likes fighting.

No. Him flexing would litirally destroy the meat that was thrown at him, which is what is needed to absorb.

 

[JohnConquest1]

Goku, an exprienced user of the move and someone with skills on par with or superior to Cell in the Buu Saga onwards has rarely used the move mid combat and certainly has never lead with it, nor warped anyone with it mid combat. even if we exclude Goku from this. why didn't someone like say Kibito or Supreme Kai do the same thing during their fights, they literally posses a superior Instant Transmission and have been in far more one sided fights similar to this.

Pretty sure 2 Kilofoe (what Gohan likely is) is far less than 616 Kilofoe, even if Cell manages to survive the first hit whats to stop say Doomsday from just repeatedly attacking him once he starts to regen.

It again has to explicitly hurt Doomsday which Buus doesn't as was concluded in that thread.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He doesn't spam it, but he can use it during combat. Teleporting around is not his style, that means nothing here. Goku starting with it doesn't matter here. What matters is that Cell knows his up against someone hundreds of times stronger than him, and has the ability to do so, as well as the knowledge that it would work.

The fact that he'd move on to destroy other stuff after. Like he does.

This has nothing to do with adaptation. Buu absorbs people by wrapping them in his flesh. This takes several seconds, and if Doomsday flexed hard enough he would just break it.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Cell needs physical contact to BFR, which would cause him to get one shot before he can get it off.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Cell needs physical contact to BFR, which would cause him to get one shot before he can get it off.

That same thing was also brought up, and answered, above.

He can just appear by his back, or just send his own kids.


That and doomsday is very unlikely to one-shot still because of the regen and his fist based fighting style.

 

[JohnConquest1]

Except he doesn't Cell doesn't know the full extent of what Doomsday is capable of so saying he's knowledgeable it would work is frivolous. Again the reason I brought the Kais and Goku up is because Cell would Need time to actually focus and be able to comfortably use the move. something that other users of IT and superior moves have trouble doing against characters who are still nowhere near Doomsdays level. He is not going to do that because Doomsday won't give him the chance to just like those other characters. it is too big of an AP stomp and Cell is no stranger to getting involved in 1 sided fights thinking he'd win.

Doomsday hates all life if he sees the thing he previously thought he killed start to reform he will keep trying to kill it even if hes animalistic in that.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Fair enough. I still see his kids getting one shot tbh.

Fair enough.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He knows for a fact that he Doomsday has hundreds of times his AP, and all of those times were pointed out above. Hell, he could just spend a few days training and get enough of a speed advantage to do it without Doomsday hitting him.

Doomsday wouldn't really stop and wait to see if he reforms. And you still didn't explain how doomsday would even find cell if he planet is destroyed.

 

[Mickey1940]

Super Buuhan who literally has better AP, Regen, and an actual way of incapping Doomsday, barely was considered capable of incapaciting Doomsday in a previous thread thats not even on either of their profiles. Solely going by how his chocolate beam works. Cell has no real way of doing something like that here let alone a way to do any real damage, Doomsday can very easily just one shot this and call it a day.
Doomsday stomps

Buu doesn't need the Chocolate beam to Incap Doomsday, he has Absorption. The Chocolate Beam never incapacitated the enemy in the first place, it's just Transmutation

Cell can BFR, and if that alone isn't enough for a win, he can train for a few decades to close the AP gap (whic is perfectly possible within a few months)

 

[KLOL506]

Cell can just use the RoSAT to counter the decades that would be lost training. But with the insane amount of zenkais he goes through, he'd dwarf DD's AP pretty quickly.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Nah, Cell would just Instant Transmission beyond the Source Wall and train with the The Presence for a couple years to become 1-A and stomp the everything else.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Possibly 1-A key for Cell when?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, jokes aside...

how much stronger would he get if he trained as well as he possibly can? I mean, in dragonball it would be whatever the plot needs, but in this case, where could he get?

The main reason for this question, as many can guess, is Frieza.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Doomsday punches cell=rip

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Doomsday punches cell=rip

A punch would not get past his regen, no.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

But it will make him explode.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But it will make him explode.

No, it will not.

And don't you use real world physics as a reason, doomsday punches don't really act like that. It would oblitarate the part hit, but that's about it.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Um AP advantage

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Um AP advantage

Yes?

Because even when he punches stuff, it doesn't get atomized.

In the real world it should, but in the real rold a punch from him would also create enough heat to make pretty much anything plasma, and it would also destroy the planet (Without actually punching it. Just punching close to it)

Neither happens, because that's not how the physics in marvel work.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

DC, not Marvel

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

...Goddamit.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Feels like a stalemate then if Doomsday can't put down Cell fully.

 

[Mickey1940]

Feels like a stalemate then if Doomsday can't put down Cell fully.

He can, it's just Cell has a way around that

 

[Mickey1940]

bump

 

[IvoryAS]

Bump.