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Ultimate DIO and Novel Kars addition.

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Dio (and potentially Kars) should have time travel http://imgur.com/a/APIDC

and Kars should have time paradox immunity.

http://imgur.com/a/VZPyL

The ability to survive without a soul. Dio tanked cutting half his soul in half and later on, Kars used Whitesnake to shatter The World, his soul, and DIO was fine.

Illusion creation for Kars via Whitesnake.

Whitesnake should have infinite speed for briefly engaging in combat with Dio's TWU.


Should Kars have Data manipulation? He was able to connect a cord into his palm from Das Boot and go through its files and memory and project them on a wall via his body.

If anything else should be discussed bring it up here.
 
Everything in this thread seems fine, can't be sure about Data Manipulation though, he didn't really change anything as far as I know.

MIHU should be renamed to MIHUR (Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem), and that's about everything I can talk about changing initially. We could change the Country level link to Kars' durability and then swap the explanations around but I don't know if that's important right now.
 
Mere question: If Kaars has his soul destroyed, he loses his stands?
 
If the soul that was destroyed was said Stand sure, but he could always replicate it again at a drop of a hat all things considered.
 
More questions:

Whitesnake: resistance to time stop or infinite speed. In which context it fought TWU
 
TWU ultimate and Whitesnake had a small exchange that lasted about a sentence, Whitesnake broke through and popped DIO in the head removing his disc.

This was outside of timestop.
 
On a side note, The World, D4C aband d Whitesnake dont need to be summoned for their abities, all 3 abilities were shown to be used without the Stand being out.
 
It's still that Stand's respective ability? There's tons of moments where the Stand didn't come out and the ability was still used. Even DIO did it in the manga.
 
Not sure what ya are getting at but yeah, just wanted to make a note hat the Stand doesnt need to come out Vakentine and Kars did it constantly with D4C, Kars spammed Whitesnake's disc ability constantly, especially on Joji and DIO did the world in the manga without summoning it.

MIH too arguably considering he used Pucci's body to accel time without MIH being active while in the ship.

KQ's contact bomb was used by Kira a few times without summoning JQ either.


Das Boot and BTD still needs to come out if i recall.
 
So what does the whole "Acausality with The World" thing mean.

He'd need to have the stand out to be acasual or is that going to change?
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Not sure what ya are getting at but yeah, just wanted to make a note hat the Stand doesnt need to come out Vakentine and Kars did it constantly with D4C, Kars spammed Whitesnake's disc ability constantly, especially on Joji and DIO did the world in the manga without summoning it.
MIH too arguably considering he used Pucci's body to accel time without MIH being active while in the ship.
This is still standard knowledge that doesn't need to be explained because it's already understood, it's just those who don't understand the series who can get mixed up. Certain Stand types shouldn't need to be explained in a Note or something about how they don't need so and so out ot activate its ability. It's already given, same goes for the ones who require it to be seen like Cheap Trick/BtD and all that.
 
I'd like to bring this up if it already hasn't been touched upon.

Narancia's Das Boot destroyed that creature Kars had created or damaged it so wouldn't its DC be moon level or? And also, Sandman absorbed all of the sand on mars and made it his own so there's that.
 
What? The moon was only 8km in diameter.

Plus he didn't destroy it, it took literally no damage and actually savoured and enjoyed the explosions.

Although Narancia would likely be bare minimum large building+, likely city block to multi block considering the explosions were hundreds of meters across.
 
No, the surface was littered with explosions and took up most of the surface (before the moon grew a month and started eating the missiles).

It took no damage but Narancia, if he ever gets a profile would still be a top tier.

http://imgur.com/a/Ums34

But he can cause massive explosions and his missiles can be shot from orbit and still tear through planes and air craft carrier hulls.
 
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