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Ugo and sinbad Upgrade?

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Ok what's going on here, countless word or layers /= hyperversal level, those layers have to be stated to be 12 dimensional and above to be hyperversal.

Destroying countless worlds/universes would only be multiversal which is where ugo already is.
 
If a multi-universe sized being appeared in his hand, and wasn't literally infinitesimally small, then he isn't even 2A, let alone tier 1.
 
Unless those layers are stated to be 12 dimensional it means nothing and even destroying countless layers (which i am assuming are universe sized) will only put him at multiversal which he is already at much less 2-A where he would have to destroy an infinite number of universes.

Hyperversal is literally several levels of infinity above even high multiversal+ which would only make sinbad and ugo 5 dimensional much less 12 dimensional.
 
No he has way better feats than tu aru gods

Ugo existed where time space didnt exist and had il ilah and a universe in a aquarium him being 2-A is honestly lowball itself
 
Huh what does to aru have to do with this? From what i understand they can destroy infinite universes so they are 2-A, where is the proof sinbad can destroy infinite universes?

And existing in a place without time and space doesn't make you 2-A that just means you have immeasurable speed.
 
Countless isnt infinite but even then ugo is the one who oversees the multi layer construct and chosses who rules over them so yeah pretty sure he is above tier 2
 
Listen countless isn't infinite so that only makes him multiversal, multiversal is destroying countless universe or more specifically 1001 to 10^500 universal space-time continuums. Multiversal+ is destroying an infinite number of universes, high multiversal+ is destroying or creating 5 dimensional constructs, being 12 dimensional means literally being 7 levels of infinity above a 5 dimensional being that means a 5-D being can never beat a 12-D being, a 5-D being can never even beat a 6-D being because the difference between them is literally infinity. This is why what is being proposed here is ridiculous, we can't upgrade them unless those layers are confirmed to be 12-D, heck confirmed to be 5-D much less 12-D.
 
Unless there's proof of every layer being superior to the last or something similar, this wouldn't qualify for anything more than 2-A, to my understanding.
 
Promestein said:
Unless there's proof of every layer being superior to the last or something similar, this wouldn't qualify for anything more than 2-A, to my understanding.
they would also have to rigourously prove that each layer is infinitely beyond the last one, the higher the tier, the more the rigourour the argument should be
 
Lol multivetse is part of Countless layers, Countless layers that contain the infinite dimensions. there trying to watch ova 3 Tenchi Muyo Ryo
 
You're not making sense and not sharing any real proof.

There's reference to 'multi-layered structure', though.
 
That does look like it could imply dimensional layers, but countless would only be 1-B, not High 1-B.
 
the layers literally seem to sound like worlds simply stacked on top of each other

so the universe has countless world stacked on top of each other

so each universe has many worlds, how big is each world? is each world an actual universe? in that case, the universe would just be a multiverse

it literally seems to be the same as othinus's cases with her phases and yet she was only deemed to be Low 2-C, so these can be many 3-A universes stacked in a Low 2-C set
 
another thing is simply saying layers being stacked is NOT a good argument of orders of infinity, in order for a verse to be promoted to orders of ifnintiy, you have to rigourously prove that the layers are indeed orders of infinity, and each one infinitely greater than the last one, in this case it literally seems to be like having many universes stacked on top of each other- hence making the whole structure 2-B-ish
 
@TLT1

It's been poorly explained, but I think the reason they believe these to be dimensions is that the difference between the layers that each God is on compared to the one below it, are compared to the difference between an author, and the beings in his writing.

Additionally they say that each individual or god in a lower plain does not understand the purpose of their existence as prescribed by the god above them who created them, and thus acts similar to a cell in a body, unknowingly serving out the purpose of the whole universe. Because of this someone with the power of Ugo or Sinbad can freely change the layer and power of anything in the hierarchy, which is noted to be endless, without them knowing or understanding that it's been changed.

And this is where they seem to be getting the infinite dimensional part from, because Ugo and Sinbad can freely change and rewrite any positions within an endless hierarchy of layers.

If it helps, here's a link to the chapter this all comes from: http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-1.html
 
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