Trinity Seven Conceptual Manipulation

[Robo432343]

Magic is a power that surpasses every law in the world and originated from the rules of the world. Magic power is the very power a person possesses to exist. Without the very power to exist, you would perish, vanish or lose control. It opposes the very principles that make up the world, bringing phenomena or beings into existence that normally would never exist. Everything commonly known as devils, monsters or apparitions are a product of magic.
Also this


Archives are the core of magic by which a magus draws power from, existing in higher dimensions



we accept the verse having CM on the verse page already but it’s not on profile for some reason
"Nearly any characters in this verse have powerful abilities like Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Reality Warping, Conceptual Manipulation, Plot Manipulation and many more because of their abilities to access archive with their magic."

 

[Anzu_Hanashiro]

what ? plot manip ?

 

[Vietthai96]

eh.......i can understand conceptual manipulation, but why plot hax???

 

[The_Emperor4th]

but it’s not on profile for some reason

Because there will be a whole massive revision for the verse in the future, and thus why some of the scan and the justification on the profile is kinda misleading and outdated.

The plot manipulation stuff iirc, most of the scan comes from the side story, and we are waiting for the YenPress official translation (it has been confirmed already that side story also get the license for the translation).

 

[The_Emperor4th]

do you know if that revision will include the concept stuff

Is this a question? If so, then pretty much yes. It will also include the concept stuff and a lot more than that.

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

The plot manipulation stuff iirc, most of the scan comes from the side story, and we are waiting for the YenPress official translation (it has been confirmed already that side story also get the license for the translation).

true

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Currently the manga has not received a full translation, but I have translated some panels using MTL, maybe later I will make a crt about T7 Manip Plot.

btw, please give input on my crt.
It's time for you to make a crt about T7.

 

[The_Emperor4th]

It's time for you to make a crt about T7.

Soon. I suppose.

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Soon. I suppose.

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Soon. I suppose.

oh shit, I just realized it was you.

 

[Robo432343]

wait
The 2-A stuff will already be covered in the revisions no?

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

wait
The 2-A stuff will already be covered in the revisions no?

One World in Trinity Seven is equivalent to a 2-A structure.

 

[The_Emperor4th]

wait

Ah sorry, this person escaped from my basement and deliberately created a 2-A thread, and so we just go proceed it. My bad, next time I will make sure that it will never happen again.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Magic is a power that surpasses every law in the world and originated from the rules of the world. Magic power is the very power a person possesses to exist. Without the very power to exist, you would perish, vanish or lose control. It opposes the very principles that make up the world, bringing phenomena or beings into existence that normally would never exist. Everything commonly known as devils, monsters or apparitions are a product of magic.
Also this

Laws, rules, and concepts of the world are one and the same.

They are independent of the worlds they govern. Just destroying a world without a power that can destroy them does not affect them, as proven further with Abyss Trinity. He destroyed the world, but it didn't destroy the laws of the world here.
Thus, when magic breaks them, it can also distort them. This would be law and conceptual manipulation Type 1.

Now, regarding magic being conceptual in nature and independent.

Due to the influence of the Outer Gods, those who have become "True Demon" wield techniques based on "concepts" akin to magic and humans cannot even perceive the power they possess.

Their power can't be perceived by humans because it is conceptual in nature. Thus, when they say magic is based on concepts, they mean it is conceptual. here
There is more of this stuff in the new chapters, but we'll have to wait for the translation. Here, for example etc, this should be enough.

A thema, which is magic too, is said to be conceptual. For example, Abyss Trinity's thema is said to be the concept of death and destruction that reduces all creation to nothing. here

Magic power, soul, and essence are interchangeable. If something is an essence, it is also a concept since they are used synonymously. Thus, magic is a concept that maintains their existence in reality, as shown above.

Magic exists outside the rational world. Magic power predates all humans and can create worlds. It also existed at the very beginning of everything, during the ancient primordial era. It would continue to exist even if all worlds and all of spacetime were destroyed. Plus what you added, like there more stuff like Magic would still persist even if all worlds and all concepts that form them and existence itself were removed etc . But this should do for independent.

Archives are the core of magic by which a magus draws power from, existing in higher dimensions

They are also conceptual in nature and are source of magic. They also exist in a qualitative reality than the reality they govern, so they are type 1 concepts as well.

we accept the verse having CM on the verse page already but it’s not on profile for some reason

Looks like everything is left for me to do. Trying to get myself out of lazy mode is quite hard. I can happily say I'm the laziest.