Transformers General Discussion

[Drite77]

Welp, time to work on the profiles and the verse page now

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Ok, I'll try it a bit more since I won't be doing anymore calcs for the main Transformers book, maybe Void Rivals but I would need to start reading it, same for hound in GI Joe, and I'll tag both @Emirp sumitpo and @Dark-Carioca as they were both ones that seemed to have interest in the Skybound books, but I'll once again, welcome anybody who wants to talk about it, here's what we are dealing in terms of calcs I've made thus far:

Spoiler: Main AP calcs

Devastator suplexes Bruticus (3.94 Tons, High 8-C)
Astrotrain's crater (0.5219 Tons, 8-C)
Starscream destroys a jet (0.42 Tons, 8-C)

Spoiler: Supporting AP calcs

Destroying Reflector (0.2563 Tons, 8-C)
Starscream survives an explosion (0.19 Tons, 9-A+)

Spoiler: Priority 4/Bit AP feats

Shredhead cuts Hotlink (0.0861 Tons of TNT, 9-A)
Starscream vaporizes a human (0.066 Tons, 9-A)
Bruticus tanks an explosion (0.0129 Tons, 9-A)
Devastator punches the ground (0.012317 Tons of TNT, 9-A)
Skywarp smashes a police car (0.01158 Tons of TNT, 9-A)
Cliffjumper goes through a wall (0.003778 Tons of TNT, 9-B+)
Ultra Magnus punches an helicopter (0.0029 Tons, 9-B+)
Cliff and Jazz tank an explosion (0.0007346 Tons of TNT, 9-B)

Spoiler: Speed feats

Ulchtar, Jetfire and Genvo fly to Moonbase 2 (Mach 1867.83, Massively Hypersonic+)
Arcee outspeeds an RPG (Mach 0.52, Subsonic+)

Spoiler: Lifting Strength feats

Optimus rips off Devastator's fingers (65881.192 Tons, Class M)
Megatron tears Trailbreaker apart (56467.295 Tons, Class M)
Constructions move the Nemesis (5823.81998 tons, Class M)
Optimus lifts Devastator (1789.19137 tons, Class M) (This should be 2683.78 Tons BTW)
Beachcomber lifts a piece of debri (57.01248 Tons, Class 100)

Here's what I want to propose for AP​

Most bots, which include: All the Seekers, Astrotrain, Arcee, Elita-1, Jazz, Cliffjumper, Trailbreaker and Rumble, will scale to either Starscream's feat, or Astrotrain's feat.

Reason being there is an argument for Astrotrain's feat to be above his level, as he was in the ground, but there is also the argument that Megatron already had him in the ropes in the first place. I'm leaning more to Astrotrain's, but I wouldn't mind if it was Starscream's. Cliffjumper and Rumble have each shown feats that put them at this level as well, such as Rumble hurting Astrotrain and Cliffjumper battling Starscream for a short amount of time. This does not include Beachcomber

Stronger bots, such as Ultra Magnus, Arcee Magnus, Shockwave and Soundwave, will be "At least 8-C, likely higher" because they are clearly stronger then the previous bots. There might be a few bots I'm missing but those 4 are the main ones

The Combiners, Megatron, Optimus Prime and Shredhead: Will be High 8-C via scaling from the Combiner calc. Both Optimus and Megatron can hurt them significantly, Megatron's punch straight up decombined Devastator and sent him flying, Optimus scales to him and also hurt Devastator with his kicks and Megatron's fusion cannon while Shredhead is clearly on their level. Those 3 would be the only one in this rating

Here's what I want to propose for LS​

Basically everyone but the small bots (That includes Cliff, Beachcomber and Rumble) will scale to the Constructicons' Class M feat, Cliff and the small bots will scale to the Class 100 feat while Optimus, Megatron and Shredhead will both scale to the higher-end Class M feats (Optimus ripping Devastator's finger and Megatron tearing Trailbreaker in half)

Here's what I want to propose for Speed​

This one is the least complicated, they will scale to Arcee's Subsonic+ feat movement wise and will scale their reaction and combat speed to Ulchtar, Genvo and Jetfire's feat, while the ones with flying modes will all have their speed scaled to those 3's feats.

That's all, any comment, disagreement or questions can all be done and I'll try to tackle them as much as I can. I still believe we should not use the Re-entry feats due to a lot of problems with it, but if people still want to comment about it I'll debate it no problem

This all seems agreeable, I suppose

 

[Drite77]

Void Rivals now has the highest 8-C calc of the verse, at 0.7763 Tons (Springer scales to the person who did this feat)

 

[Genericstickman]

well the Legends manga is back and so is End of the G1 Universe

 

[StarShooter80]

Well that's just prime

 

[StarShooter80]

The Primest Prime's Profile Update

All of the Transformers Prime pages are severely outdated in terms of overall content within them as they haven't been updated in years outside of that quick speed CRT, this CRT is just a step towards fixing that as these profiles take a long time to complete, starting with Optimus Prime's...

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[Eden5Zeroo]

I thogut i asked this yesterday but it seems my Phone didnt send it. Has any1 calcd galvatrons feat when he survivd the Explosion that destroyed cyberteon?

 

[Genericstickman]

do you think it's possible to make a verse specific power page for sparks?

 

[Drite77]

No

 

[Tahoy49574]

Dare To Be Invincible - Invincible vs Rodimus (8-0-0)

Upgrades be damned I have to do this Invincible is in his Post-Resurrections key Matrix of Leadership is restricted for Rodimus Speed is equalized Invincible (Comics): Rodimus (IDW 2005):

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[Optimus.negz]

[Transformers] THE ONE possible revision ?

Hi, I’d like to hear your thoughts on a topic relating to the Transformers media. After doing some more research on The One, certain pieces of information about him that tie together seem to warrant some analysis. Here, here and here, The One is described as being the ‘heart of the universe’...

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[RippleFrog]

^imo The One is just too vague for me to give it that kind of standing from a powerscaling perspective, though I understand the opposite viewpoint as well
full thoughts here https://vsbattles.com/threads/transformers-the-one-possible-revision.190147/#post-7668028

 

[StarShooter80]

Minor rework for Bayverse

Transfomers (Michael Bay) High 7-C+ Removal

The scaling chain is essentially this (going by the profiles): RotF Megatron scales to his feat of 1.54 Megatons (Low 7-B). 2007 to ROTF Optimus Prime upscales from him, being able to hold his own against that same Megatron, Grindor and Starscream all at once with the upperhand, and is the...

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