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Transduality Should be Nonduality
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I will remind DontTalk again. 
If he doesn't show up, we can probably proceed with the following change.
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If he doesn't show up, we can probably proceed with the following change.
Transduality Should be Nonduality
Yeah your draft is fine. If only any other mod would comment So were any requirements changed between TD and ND or was only the name changed. Also, will "non-dualities" be assumed to be immune to haxs such as concept transfer? If this happens, it would really be NLF. For example, giving a...
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What is a reasonable time-limit to give him?I will remind DontTalk again.
If he doesn't show up, we can probably proceed with the following change.
Transduality Should be Nonduality
Yeah your draft is fine. If only any other mod would comment So were any requirements changed between TD and ND or was only the name changed. Also, will "non-dualities" be assumed to be immune to haxs such as concept transfer? If this happens, it would really be NLF. For example, giving a...
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bump, it's been aaround 10 days
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second bump, would this be safe to apply without DT now?
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It's a wiki wide revision, you barely have enough approval to pass it.
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the thread got the required amount of votes a long time ago, which got blocked by dt, who has not posted a counter
PrinceofPein
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It's a wiki policy revision, you need larger number of staff than the usual 3
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that's already been done. literally the only obstacle was DT, who has not responded since may/june i believe
PrinceofPein
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Also you need he can veto such revision.
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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But he hasn't. I'll ask Ant to unlock the Transduality page so I can make the necessary edits tomorrow.
PrinceofPein
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He disagreed, you need to convince him otherwise.
Also he is busy both IRL and here, so you'd still need to wait for him.
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Well, it seems that Ant agrees that the changes should be applied if DT did not appear in the weeks or months that this topic was stonewalled.
And more than a week has passed since his final verdict/time limit.
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Looks like Ant is fine with the revision going through.
This just seems like unnecessary stonewalling.
I will remind DontTalk again.
If he doesn't show up, we can probably proceed with the following change.
Transduality Should be Nonduality
Yeah your draft is fine. If only any other mod would comment So were any requirements changed between TD and ND or was only the name changed. Also, will "non-dualities" be assumed to be immune to haxs such as concept transfer? If this happens, it would really be NLF. For example, giving a...
This just seems like unnecessary stonewalling.
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Ant, it's been well over a week. Is the following draft acceptable to apply now?
Mad Dog of Fujiwara/nonduality
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Georredannea15
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In such things you should wait for him, at least try to persuade him
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It seems he's not interested tho. If you want him to come here for you, then you should try to contact him or tell him to come. If he's not interested, then there is nothing to wait.In such things you should wait for him, at least try to persuade him
Georredannea15
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You should wait for him because he is a bureaucrat and he was the one who made the latest Transduality standards. So yeah, worst case scenario you should wait. At least even if he doesn't agreed...
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I would prefer it if we formatted the page more like NEP with a "Nature" section for the distinction between nonduality and transduality, so I wrote a revised version of your draft:Ant, it's been well over a week. Is the following draft acceptable to apply now?
Mad Dog of Fujiwara/nonduality
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Georredannea15
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I have a question. Would it be good to add to the page that non-duality would be affected by things like concept transfer and concept creation and etc?I would prefer it if we formatted the page more like NEP with a "Nature" section for the distinction between nonduality and transduality, so I wrote a revised version of your draft:
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Georredannea15
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Ahh... I didn't see it.
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So... the ND and TD just being different in, one is still can be given the duality property and the other is cannot
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no. Transduality transcends the system while nonduality is outside the system, if that makes sense
Georredannea15
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Transdaulity also transcends dualities and non-dual beings
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The two word is just same meaning, what i see even if you use word like transcendence it still not TD. And even if you use the word outside, but it show the proof of what the standard called it TD then it is TD
So the different is just the one is still can be bound by properties of duality and the other is cannot be bound
Georredannea15
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Isn't that the case anyway? So even though you are a non-dual being, you can still be influenced and this is basically an easy thing to do. That's why I disagreed with "non-duality" and argued that "transcendence" must still exist.
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Yall. The thread has been accepted. Shut up.
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im pretty sure we need ant to unlock the follow-up thread before closing this one.
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Yes, thats why i say the different between ND and TD is, ND still can be bound and TD not or completely unbound
And i just have problem with a word like transcendence that being glorified, even by default it just mean resistence, and have same meaning as word outside. I mean for have TD you must use that world, if not then no
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Yeah, which is why there isn't any point is debating the topic further.
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I can swap my draft into the page at a moment's notice and am just waiting for Ant's go-ahead.
Georredannea15
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Yes, we are still waiting for Ant and DT, you can cry.
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ant already said we can move on without dt if he doesnt respond in a week, its been 2
Georredannea15
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And the result... We are still waiting. This is what a bureaucrat is like, man, especially if you have done transduality standards before, they are waiting for you.
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Example should be put as separate Section rather than under each aspect like NEP page, no one will know those example belong to nondual and transdualI would prefer it if we formatted the page more like NEP with a "Nature" section for the distinction between nonduality and transduality, so I wrote a revised version of your draft:
IdiosyncraticLawyer/Sandbox
Now that talking about examples, need to find example for both nondual and transdual
Georredannea15
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There aren't many examples of non-dual characters, because they are fully "transdual" beings that transcend duality systems.
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