Town level Pikachu

[The_real_cal_howard]

Lina calced Pikachu's Z-Move Catastropika to be Town level a little while back. This applies to game Pikachu and should apply to composite Pikachu too.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Personally, I feel like it should apply to durability too, given that Pikachu could survive in the epicenter of said attack. Though I am firmly against it being natural AP.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Probably best to link the calc.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Getting to it.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

well if he was generating it then it would only be going one way out so it shouldn't affet durability.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lina_Shields/CastroPika?useskin=oasis

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

The calculation has the following adjustment, which was supported by Lina Shields. With that said I'm in support of Large Building+ as opposed to Town level.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That wouldn't make since due to the fact that Pikachu is already Mutli-City Block level.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Then this calculation doesn't really do anything for Pikachu in that case.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It was re-reevaluated again below.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Actually, Lina re-redid it. He put Large Buldimf+ and switched it to Twon after another revelation.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Oh right I see, my bad.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I already said that it would only scale to game Pikachu via Z-Move, not durability, and not Ash's Pikachu, since via scaling it has better feats.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Ash's Pikachu is like City-Mountain level on Ash's file right?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Yeap, and soon he would scale from Wishiwashi if extra support is needed

 

[Lina_Shields]

Ash's Pikachu being Mountain level? Wew

Anyways, as I noted on the calc, this only scales to Pikachu's AP only with the Z-move, thus Pikachu's AP should be read as

• Multi-City Block level normally (or whatever Pikchu's AP is), Town level with Z-move.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Multi-City Block is for Ash's only


So it should be removed

 

[Lina_Shields]

We will go with what is said on the Pokedex's entry for Pikachu then (about Pikachu releasing 5 Gigajoules of energy).

 

[AidenBrooks999]

5 Gigajoules is just Building level+


Did you even read the profile?

 

[LordXcano]

Hey guys there's also this feat if anyone wants to calc that.

 

[RadicalMrR]

I actually think I may be able to do it myself. Ill take a swing at it on saturday.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

If you don't mind Radical, I can calc it right now.

 

[RadicalMrR]

Go ahead, id probably get an inflated or weirdly low result.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogarkanine/Pokemon:_Pikachu_Aims_For_The_Hor

In hindsight the attack dispersed the entire "mountain" a decent distance, I wonder if I can get KE out of that too..

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

TBH, I'm personally very against how we rate normal pokemons is to our trainer profiles, because I guarantee that this won't be able to be put on Pikachu's profile due to "lol it's Ash's" despite the fact that we have always had composites.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

And?


Your point?


So any f*cking pokemon can scale to a trained one?

Please Cal, stop with that matter, because it has been discussed already.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Cal Remember I tried that already. I believe everyone including you disagreed with it. I may be wrong though.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Composite is for legendaries only


All other profiles are from one media (And if they feats from diferent one, those should be clarify)


But all this is base on wild pokemon, NOT TRAINED ONES.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Honestly the way we rate Pokemon gives me a headache, which is why I rarely contribute to the Pokemon discussions anymore.

Anyway I updated the calc with Cano's suggestion for Kinetic Energy of the fragments and got Megaton grade results. I have no idea if I counted the frames correctly though.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah. It has been discussed. And the current authority (me) disagreed with it. If a Salamence performs some city level feat, but it belongs to Drake, Salamence's profile is unknown because it belongs to someone else. Hell, Dragonite should be currently unknown because it's only feats come from Lance's. Does anyone know the meaning of the word Composite, or is it exclusive to Digimon nowadays.

Composites are not for legendaries only. They have never been. They never will be. Only reason this topic exists is because we wanted to make profiles for trainers.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I mostly agree with Cal regarding this as well. It just makes matters so much less complicated

 

[AidenBrooks999]

If you want to get Pokémon profiles banned again, do whatever you please


I hope you are happy with that decision

 

[RadicalMrR]

Should I upgrade everything to 7-A with MHS speed now or should I wait? Im not being sarcastic, this is literally the end result of this, no calc will ever need to be done again, heck even the one were using to upgrade him now is worthless, because we have all that we need, Tyranitar and Magnemite.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Don't go there. Because Pokemon profiles were banned in the first place because of stat scaling. Not dismissing feats because of ownership, which in itself would get the trainer profiles banned if anything.

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with Aiden and Radical.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Not, but pretty sure your reasoning towards scaling would get them banned too.


Because it all sound like if I made a Caterpie beat a Tyranitar and made all Bug Catchers from BoG At least 7-A. #100%Logic

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Stop taking my words out of context/taking them to an extreme. I never stated a single thing about scaling. Heck. For the most part, we don't scale to this verse at all. With your logic, if Youngster Joey beat a Tyranitar, then he and his entire team becomes at least 7-A. Top percentage of Rattata indeed.

Imo, how we currently rate Pokemon should get the profiles deleted. They're obsolete if the trainers get the scaling and the moves and etc.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Caterpie beating a Tyranitar would be a massive outlier or PIS or both.

And please do not be condensing to other people for having different opinions on how Pokemon should be, or how anything should be scaled, for that matter.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Stop taking my words out of context/taking them to an extreme. I never stated a single thing about scaling. Heck. For the most part, we don't scale to this verse at all. With your logic, if Youngster Joey beat a Tyranitar, then he and his entire team becomes at least 7-A. Top percentage of Rattata indeed.
Imo, how we currently rate Pokemon should get the profiles deleted. They're obsolete if the trainers get the scaling and the moves and etc.

Yeah, a correct and logical scaling, organized


I don't even know how you even see this as complex

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I don't see it as complex. Just inaccurate. Because building level composite Pikachu despite having feats of town, small town, and MCB, is quite silly.