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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

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Maybe because he's an Extraordinary Genius about this stuff?
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Extraodinary genius isnt making you guess that is time manipulation without any evidence that cant be aplied to other abilities

There I'd need some proof.
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You dont need proofs tho is a passive that henry activates when he loses and by that logic you need to give me proves that mind haxs stops load
 
ZAYIN, TETH, and HE abnormalities for 2nd high 8-C, they have passive madness, fear, and mind hax that does bypass layers with attacks that pseudo resistance neg for some of them via BLACK damage
 
deonment said:
ZAYIN, TETH, and HE abnormalities for 2nd high 8-C, they have passive madness, fear, and mind hax that does bypass layers with attacks that pseudo resistance neg for some of them via BLACK damage
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They are currently in a upgrade limbo if I am not mistaken the upgrade would make them have 4d mind hax.(also their range sux)
 
Lou_change said:
They are currently in a upgrade limbo if I am not mistaken the upgrade would make them have 4d mind hax.(also their range sux)
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the hax is literally activated from seeing them, also the upgrade that isn't going to get any traction in the next year or two
 
Livinmeme said:
Extraodinary genius isnt making you guess that is time manipulation without any evidence that cant be aplied to other abilities
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Bruh
Livinmeme said:
You dont need proofs tho is a passive that henry activates when he loses and by that logic you need to give me proves that mind haxs stops load
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Extraordinary claim needs extraordinary evidence. Load in most of the cases applies to only death/failure.

Can create and load save states as well as retry scenarios if he fails, could retry after being frozen, turned to water, reduced to ash, essentially being turned into a zombie, having his soul destroyed with his body, and even being erased along with his entire universe

I don't see anything leading to mind hax here lmfao
 
StrymULTRA said:
Bruh

Extraordinary claim needs extraordinary evidence. Load in most of the cases applies to only death/failure.

Can create and load save states as well as retry scenarios if he fails, could retry after being frozen, turned to water, reduced to ash, essentially being turned into a zombie, having his soul destroyed with his body, and even being erased along with his entire universe

I don't see anything leading to mind hax here lmfao
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agreed
 
Not to say that he's still below Chowder who would get completely stomped from Hajime for the reasons I've already told before, so incon doesen't stop a character from being higher than the dude who inconned if they beat the character above them.
 
He isn't really that impressive then besides the standard soul crush.

Was thinking about the isekai at peace characters vs him, but soul crush is an obstacle since they lack soul resistance, probably only Isis Remnant could face him, but then it's passive vs passive.
 
well after the bleach upgrade and hes ap keys getting changed, i don't think he can hold that 5th spot for high 6-A anymore without the almighty.
 
Hmm think the Arifureta High 6-A characters could actually beat him considering they do have soul resistance plus stuff like mind hax, plus pretty sure their soul hax is over 100k since people like Yue and Kaori have mind/soul haxed Hajime, who has resistances that high.

Though they would probably lose to the Isekai at Peace cast, causality manipulation is too broken, they would just twist causality so attacks never hit them, while their attacks always hit. You have Isis with the planetary mind + fear hax, Chronois with time stop more potent than normal time stop, Fate who can mess with fate, and probability, which are more potent than the normal abilities etc.
 
Lel just to note soul hax/potency is everything in bleach, basically thr power system. earlier arc characters are comprised of thousands to millions of souls and each individual soul isnt baseline. But yes it would probably prevent them from being passively soul crushed and yhwach is susceptible to mind hax.

Could yhwach possiblly have a spot in 3-B?
 
Loyd said:
Lel just to note soul hax/potency is everything in bleach, basically thr power system. earlier arc characters are comprised of thousands to millions of souls and each individual soul isnt baseline. But yes it would probably prevent them from being passively soul crushed and yhwach is susceptible to mind hax.

Could yhwach possiblly have a spot in 3-B?
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Isn't he a Low 2-C smurf?
 
Dark Schneider has his Body, Soul, and Spirit all exist in separate dimensions and can only be destroyed if they are all destroyed at the same time. He also has Dispel Bound which are numerous regenerating forcefields that protect against hax like Mind Manipulation, Reality Warping, and Instant Win effects and should protect him from the rest of Yhwach's nasty stuff.
 
I meant as a placeholder for the empty spot in 5th place tbh but skimming schneider abilities it looks like an incon.
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
Hmm think the Arifureta High 6-A characters could actually beat him considering they do have soul resistance plus stuff like mind hax, plus pretty sure their soul hax is over 100k since people like Yue and Kaori have mind/soul haxed Hajime, who has resistances that high.

Though they would probably lose to the Isekai at Peace cast, causality manipulation is too broken, they would just twist causality so attacks never hit them, while their attacks always hit. You have Isis with the planetary mind + fear hax, Chronois with time stop more potent than normal time stop, Fate who can mess with fate, and probability, which are more potent than the normal abilities etc.
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do they have power null resist, cause otherwise almighty negs, also they probably can't even get on the list due to eva high 6-As having passive power null to everything within their at fields which is very large, said power null being able to negs energy, photons, electromagnetic fields, and subatomic particles, + their soul hax, mind hax and micro quantum deconstruction scales to every lifeform on the planet, including bacteria and and all that jazz
 
deonment said:
do they have power null resist, cause otherwise almighty negs, also they probably can't even get on the list due to eva high 6-As having passive power null to everything within their at fields which is very large, said power null being able to negs energy, photons, electromagnetic fields, and subatomic particles, + their soul hax, mind hax and micro quantum deconstruction scales to every lifeform on the planet, including bacteria and and all that jazz
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His high 6-A is just base key, no almighty hes probably losing the 5th spot soon
 
deonment said:
wait what? i could have stomped him six ways from Sunday then
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lol chill😭
I think a spot at 3-B is possibly fine i don't think thrs to many op verses that cap around galaxy level, putting him at 3-A is kinda pushing it although i wonder if he could beat the dragonball characters for that 5th spot.
 
Yea i think its likely aswel its specifically 3-A which cuts the low 2C characters and its a non smurf thread, that should axe alot of smurfy verses aswll, yo whats up with every man hes got so many abilities tf

could anyone knowledgable explain his in character hax? Does he have any passives?
 
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