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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Part 9

I actually believe that zilean should be second in Low 7-C. Jin has no way of putting him down and zilean can just blow him up, Warframe have a lot to look at tbh. But his type 3 acasusaliry as well as his precog and time reversal even upon death means that he is extremely hard to kill. I don't think they can do much about being blown up or frozen in time either.
 
His omnipresence would though. Also I see no resistance to precog or acausality by the operator, how wont precog find him.
 
Rocker1189 said:
His omnipresence would though. Also I see no resistance to precog or acausality by the operator, how wont precog find him.
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Omnipresence? Ouch

Well it's because he's fighting with warframes. You can't precog warframes into finding the operator.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Omnipresence? Ouch

Well it's because he's fighting with warframes. You can't precog warframes into finding the operator.
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He also exists in the past, he can find out where they came from and yes omnipresence.

Actually I can see him coming to an inconclusive with Altair, I dont think either of them have a way to put each other down. Acausality type 3 and 4 as well as omnipresence throughout the universe is pretty op.
 
That seems like an intense case by case scenario, but ok yeah that would score an inconc. Since it's just limbo BFR's or zen does his thing.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
That seems like an intense case by case scenario, but ok yeah that would score an inconc. Since it's just limbo BFR's or zen does his thing.
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In what way?

How can limbo BFR zilean? He may BFR the present Zil but another Zil from the future can just replace him and Zil would see the BFR before it happens. He also has his own BFR to outside of time and space. Heck he would instantly kil the operator for an easy win since he knows exactly where the operator is.
 
Oh right type 3 acausality. Yeah he beats the warframes then.

Btw how did he deal with the Rakudai ppl's passive willpower and paralysis hax?
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Oh right type 3 acausality. Yeah he beats the warframes then.
Btw how did he deal with the Rakudai ppl's passive willpower and paralysis hax?
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his mind resistance is in the range of hundreds of thousands of people on the low end. also again paralysing the current Zil means nothing. He would also precog it and simply attack from outside their range since his range is universal.
 
Rakudai's passives don't work on mind resistance scale. It mostly works on confidence and iq. If you're smart you get insta passiv'd. Because it's not mind hax. It's literally just "Yo m8, ya see this aura? Ya think ya can take me on? No you don't". The aura is so intense the mind warns you about the dangers of facing someone like that.

Also how the hell would he use his time hax on type 4 acusals?
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Rakudai's passives don't work on mind resistance scale. It mostly works on confidence and iq. If you're smart you get insta passiv'd. Because it's not mind hax. It's literally just "Yo m8, ya see this aura? Ya think ya can take me on? No you don't". The aura is so intense the mind warns you about the dangers of facing someone like that.
Also how the hell would he use his time hax on type 4 acusals?
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And his mind hax resistance works from both literal mind hax and from existensial crisis you get from seeing the monstrosities in the void. So like their thing but much much worse.

what time hax? he can just blow them up with bombs. if they are type 4 then yeah forget about the precog but they still have no way to put him down and he still massively outranges them.
 
In fact the existential crisis you get just from looking at it is so great that you can feel your literal soul about to leave your body.
 
As im saying, it's not exactly existencial crisis. They have such an intense presence that your body naturally tells you not to fight them. Actually just make the match it should be fun enough. Do Edelweiss maybe, she's more bloodlusted than Ikki.
 
I am literally not getting your point, existencial crisis is feeling you get. Intense presence is also a feeling you get. existencial crisis is simply more severe.
 
Just cus "it's a feeling you get" doesn't mean they are the same. Existencial Crisis is more about depression i guess? Whereas the intense presence is just your mind and body telling you "look you cannot win this fight, just run for the hills now or it's gonna end badly" and by telling you i mean literally all your senses screaming danger, hallucinations, sweat etc.

It's not about resisting, it's about either being confident enough to fight (and i mean EXTREMELY cocky) or being Ikki (cus the dude can just go "lol i fight while unconscious")
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Just cus "it's a feeling you get" doesn't mean they are the same. Existencial Crisis is more about depression i guess? Whereas the intense presence is just your mind and body telling you "look you cannot win this fight, just run for the hills now or it's gonna end badly".
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dude..you are literally arguing semantaics right now. It does not matter what type of feeling, if you can withstand one you can withstand the other. one is telling you "man this things I am seeing are to powerful for me I guess I would just self destruct." The other one is telling you: "look you cannot win this fight, just run for the hills now or it's gonna end badly".

which one sounds worse. I would wager the first.
 
Altair's best thing imo is her abstract existence type 1. That is extremely hard to deal with.

The only reason the operator could not try to go for the top spot in low 7C.
 
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