Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36

[Regidian]

She does, she has passive 1-A Fate and Probability Manip plus iirc 1-A Death Hax.

Know for the fate and proba even tho i don't know how their works exactly, but the death it know from where?

 

[Tago238]

1-A isn't out of any formalism, while High 1-A and NEP type 2 are by very definition. Ergo 1-A would allow you to affect AE and NEP type 1 and High 1-A would allow you to affect NEP type 2 because it's a large cardinal. Your welcome VS Battles Wiki.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Know for the fate and proba even tho i don't know how their works exactly, but the death it know from where?

Its also due to her connection to The Basanos iirc.

 

[Regidian]

Its also due to her connection to The Basanos iirc.

Well she never have use it no contrary to the passive (Just to know i will no make the match if she can affect NEP2)

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

She can kill angels from Heaven, who are like, 1-A, since Sphere of Gods and all

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@00potato That's literally how the ability works, the statement of reducing things to particles comes after he destroyed Nightengale's Critter, which btw was stated to be reduced to white particles.



You can literally watch it yourself from 19:30-21:04.

 

[PsychoWarper]

She also has pretty good precog.

 

[Regidian]

She can kill angels from Heaven, who are like, 1-A, since Sphere of Gods and all

I don't really understand the limit of NEP2 so 1-A power can affect them?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Attack Potency: Wall level (Easily restrained and knocked Cestis down). Can ignore durability and channel the powers of The Basanos

Also, if she can kill Angels, pretty sure she bullies

 

[XDragnoir]

I don't really understand the limit of NEP2 so 1-A power can affect them?

1A has nothing to do with nonexistence anymore.

 

[Youtd]

I don't really understand the limit of NEP2 so 1-A power can affect them?

Maybe I have heard some stuff about outerversal abilities affecting them. I also made a list of possible powers that may or may not work on NEP Type 2

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

I don't really understand the limit of NEP2 so 1-A power can affect them?

1-A doesn't care about NEP type 2's feelings, 1-A stuff works on it

 

[Youtd]

Also going back to fiction being fiction, would the contradiction argument work on NEP Type 2, Concept manipulation something without a concept like NEP Type 2.

 

[Regidian]

1-A doesn't care about NEP type 2's feelings, 1-A stuff works on it

Why? Pretty sure it's been a long time since 1-A thing are not preveligied tier that allow thel to do anything of lower tier

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

1-A stuff works on NEP type 2 IIRC

 

[Regidian]

1-A stuff works on NEP type 2 IIRC

I tell why it's not an argument that

 

[Youtd]

I tell why it's not an argument that

I'd also like to hear the argument for 1-A affecting NEP Type 2

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

1-A ins't bound by dimensions and has nothing to do with NEP 2

 

[Regidian]

1-A ins't bound by dimensions and has nothing to do with NEP 2

NEP have nothing to do with dimension so like what the argument?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Also, it's kinda NLF to say "1-A or higher tiers can affect type 2 NEP without feats"

 

[Youtd]

Also, it's kinda NLF to say "1-A or higher tiers can affect type 2 NEP without feats"

do you mean can't or are quoting someone

 

[00potato]

It seems like he is breaking it up into particles... but that also means that they must have a body to break up. (Makes sense considering Wil O Wisps description.)
I guess deconstruction still works, even if atomization is still kinda iffy. More of a debate on wording if anything.
(19:52)

 

[Regidian]

Also, it's kinda NLF to say "1-A or higher tiers can affect type 2 NEP without feats"

Not as much as talking about high 1-B not being able to do it since NEP2 have nothing to do about the dimmension, apparently some cardinal dimmension can help to affect it but well it's why i asked what is the limit with argument not just their are 1-A so they can (when 1-A tier itself is not really anymore a privileged tier), if you talked about type1 concept being able okay, but the 1-A so they can without reasoning...

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

1-A has nothing to do with NEP either, (unless it's a 1-A level of NEP)

 

[Tago238]

Stop saying stuff is NLF when it isn't NLF but just wrong without justification.

Also 1-A characters lack spatio temporality which is the main basis you use to determine if something is abstract or physically nonexistent in the first place. A 1-A should be able to affect a character with AE type 1 and NEP type 1.

 

[Youtd]

Stop saying stuff is NLF when it isn't NLF but just wrong.

Do you mean Nonexistentent Type 2 is wrong or the idea that its NFL is wrong?

 

[Regidian]

1-A has nothing to do with NEP either, (unless it's a 1-A level of NEP)

It's you to tell that 1-A can affect NEP2 because their are 1-A, i just ask why except for your their 1-A answer

 

[Tago238]

Do you mean Nonexistentent Type 2 is wrong or the idea that its NFL is wrong?

I mean that both the idea that a 1-A could affect an NEP type 2 with no argument and the idea that the aforementioned concept is NLF are wrong.

 

[Youtd]

I mean that both the idea that a 1-A could affect an NEP type 2 with no argument and the idea that the aforementioned concept is NLF are wrong.

Thanks for explaining.

 

[XDragnoir]

That's like, the 7th time i see people discussing if 1A can affect NEP2.

 

[Tago238]

Np

 

[Tago238]

That's like, the 7th time i see people discussing if 1A can affect NEP2.

Weak, tiering channel in VSC much?

 

[Regidian]

That's like, the 7th time i see people discussing if 1A can affect NEP2.

I never see one of them getting concluded lol so i still don't know

 

[Youtd]

I dont think there's a universal consensus on how NEP Type 2 works

everyone seems to have a different definition on what they think should or should not be able to affect it and some just completely avoid NEP Type 2.

 

[Duedate8898]

Or Xue Ying who can create souls for soulless beings and then manipulate them.

That makes more sense then somehow soul haxxing something without a soul. Just saying

 

[XDragnoir]

There is, tier and hax don't touch it without feats, anyone who said the reverse is simply wrong.

 

[Tago238]

I dont think there's a universal consensus on how NEP Type 2 works

everyone seems to have a different definition on what they think should or should not be able to affect it and some just completely avoid NEP Type 2.

That's because NEP type 2 is poorly defined by nature of VBW's concept boner sophistry

 

[Youtd]

There is, tier and hax don't touch it without feats, anyone who said the reverse is simply wrong.

I suppose well even then I'm not too sure. I've seen some knowledgeable members be against it. Whether it's because it's considered NFL, or Since in fiction anything can happen like affecting a NEP Type 2 being.

Whatever the arguments not everyone agrees with it.
For now, I'll simply follow the majority consensus and what the wiki decides to do with the NEP page.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

NEP type 1 can bea easily dealt by having conceptual manipulation type 2 or 1

NEP type 2 u need prove of being able to affect them

 

[Youtd]

That's because NEP type 2 is poorly defined by nature of VBW's concept boner sophistry

Agreed. I did hear they're gonna revise the page I'm not sure if that's still going on though.