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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

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Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances. Only physical stats are considered (I.E. if a character has a High 3-A technique but is only 9-A by itself, then the character will only count for 9-A and not for High 3-A). Multipliers that physically enhance a character to a different tier are allowed to be used for that character's placement in that tier (I.E. If you have a character that is normally 9-B, but through enhancements is capable of reaching 9-A, they would be allowed in both 9-B and 9-A respectively). Characters also must be physically in the tier they're being requested to place in. This means having Striking Strength on that level.

Also, I will remove characters I could tell at a glance were no longer a member of the tier they were listed under. I will also remove profiles that are heavily outdated or lack active enough supporters to defend their position.

I will also not add characters/verses if they aren't provided to me by the person who is advocating a position for them. It's a respect thing. Just because I'm the one who is updating the list doesn't mean I have an obligation to grab the requested pages when I'm not the person who is saying they should be on the list in the first place. Y'all are.

Also also, I've added a section with the versus threads to decide certain placements at the very bottom of the list. So if you make one please link it here.



Tier 1-A:

1. The Goddess of The Manifold

2. Characters from Megami Tensei

3. Characters from Transformers

4. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

5. MSPA Reader

6. Characters from Dragon Talisman

7. Characters from Ergenverse

8. Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared

9. Lu Zhiyu

10. Arceus

11. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

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15.

Tier Low 1-A:

1. Characters from Honkai (Impact 3rd and Star Rail)

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15.

Tier High 1-B:

1. Alicia Y Armitage

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12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 1-B:

1. Gods (Magi)

2. Characters from Instant Death (Ultimate Extermination God & Yogiri Takatou)

3. The Higher Entities

4. Character from Godzilla Singular Point Novelization (Godzilla and SHIVA)

5. The Dreaming Ones

6. Yan Sen

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14.

15.

Tier High 1-C:

1. Characters from Doctor Who / Mother Eater

2. Characters from Gurren Lagann (Verse)

3. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index

4. Sun Wukong

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11.

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13.

14.

15.

Tier 1-C:

1. Characters from Nasuverse

2. Ji Ning

3. Deadline

4. Makina

5. Characters from Xenoblade (Z, Alpha and Alvis)

6. Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End)

7. Nyanlathotep

8. Xue Ying

9.

10.

11.

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13.

14.

15,

Tier Low 1-C:

1. Characters from BlazBlue / Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Alva Avan Edison and M)

2. Ozriel

3. Characters from Slay The Princess (The Princess and The Hero)

4. Sora

5. Characters from Wizard101

6. Shiva

7. Characters from Dragon Ball (Demigra, Arale, Goku and Fu) / Characters from Cookie Run (Timekeeper Cookie & The Sugar Swan)

8. Setoki Nozumu

9. Kratos / Celestial Foundation Eater

10. Yang Kai

11. Infinity Ultron and Doctor Strange Supreme

12. The Devourer / The Player / Bill Cipher

13. The Great Kitsune

14. Spawn / Knives Millions

15.

Tier 2-A:

1. Gu Taxian/Cui Heng

2. Characters from Final Fantasy

3. Veldanava

4. Characters from Pokémon

5. Wei Huo

6. Characters from Supernatural (Jack Kline, God, and The Shadow)

7. Clockwork (Danny Phantom)

8. Discord

9. Wang Ling

10. Characters from Turma da Mônica (Cebolinha and Dona Morte)

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 2-B:

1. Cui Heng

2. Characters from Pokémon / Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel) / Gu Chensha

3. Characters from Coiling Dragon

4. Forefather Tian Yu

5. Characters from EarthBound

6. Wei Huo

7. Characters from Undertale (Chara and Asriel)

8. Dormammu

9. Lukas Trowman

10. Wang Ling

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 2-C:


Tier Low 2-C:


Tier High 3-A:

1. Old Man of Wandering Mountain

2. Fudo Myo-o

3. Disembodied Thought

4. Godcat

5. Characters from Pokémon

6. Kurzgesagt Narrator

7. Morgoth

8. Characters from W.I.T.C.H. (Irma Lair, Taranee Cook, Corneila Hail, and Hay Lin) / Black Hole (Speed Equalized)

9. Mônica

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 3-A:


Tier 3-B:

1. Zhong Yue

2. Characters from Ergenverse (Saint-Emperor and Bai Xiaochun)

3. Uriel (Bastard!!)

4. Mujin Park

5. Characters from Nipponverse

6. Characters from Asura's Wrath (Asura and Chakravartin)

7. Celestials

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 3-C:

1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. The White Queen (Blood Sign) / Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan)

3. SpongeBob SquarePants

4. Characters from Pokemon (Yveltal and Victini)

5. Characters from Bleach (Ichigo Kurosaki, Hikone Ubuginu and Kenpachi Zaraki)

6. Yang Kai

7. Garou

8. Characters from Darkstalker (Jedah and Morrigan)

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 4-A:

1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy (Mainly Godcat and Akron)

3. Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

4. Tathagata

5. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

6. SpongeBob SquarePants/Mickey Mouse (Equalized)

7. Yang Kai

8. Black Hole

9. Dark Gaia

10. Fastus

11. Garou

12. Lee Geon

13. Characters from Fire Emblem (Tiki and Naga)

14.

15.

Tier 4-B:


Tier High 4-C

1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Balancer

3. Characters from Ergenverse

4. Ji Ning

5. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

6. Starjun

7. Yang Kai

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 4-C

1. Uriel (Bastard!!)

2. Nono

3. Teridax

4. Yang Kai

5. Sujin Lee

6. Father

7. Mônica

8. The Batter

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 4-C:

1. Characters from Enter the Gungeon

2. Yang Kai

3. HIM

4. Mega Man

5. Bardock

6. Captain Marvel

7. Voltron

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 5-A:

1. Du Tian

2. Xue Ying

3. Kamui

4. Teridax

5. Characters from Marvel vs. Capcom (Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, and Abyss)

6. Kawahira

7. Viewtiful Joe

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 5-A:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Wang Lin)

2. Wei Shi Lindon

3. Xue Ying

4. Characters from Weakest Mage

5. Ata

6. The embodiment

7. Characters from Katekyo Hitman Reborn

8. Ganondorf

9. Zeref Dragneel

10. Characters from Megaman

11. Max Steel

12. World Leader

13.

14.

15.

Tier 5-B:


Tier Low 5-B:

1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Nessie

3. Characters from Ergenverse (Bai Xiaochun and Ji Mo)

4. Hajime Nagumo (Speed Unequalized) / Ji Ning (Speed Equalized)

5. Golden King

6. Adam from Neon Genesis Evangelion

7. QiQi

8. Characters from Bleach (Ichibē Hyōsube and Yhwach)

9. Kamen Rider Kabuto

10. Minato Hikaru

11. Ozriel

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 5-C:

1. Kagami

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Wei Shi Lindon

4. Konron

5. Characters from Arifureta

6. Ata / Iihiko Shishime

7. Kenshiro

8. Asta

9. Characters from Nanatsu no Taizai (Supreme Deity, Demon King and Meliodas)

10. Pyra

11. Mahou Sensei Negima!

12. Doom (Mashle: Magic and Muscles)

13. Brethren Moons

14. One Piece characters (Luffy and Kaido)

15.

Tier High 6-A:


Tier 6-A:

1. Ehitorujue

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Kidou En

4. Arthas Menethil

5. Waddle Dee

6. Inuyasha

7. One Piece characters (Luffy and Kaido)

8. Garou

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 6-B:

1. Ehitorujue

2. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

3. Alte

4. Unleashed True Self Mode Baam

5. Characters from Toriko (Starjun and Brunch)

6. Obito Uchiha

7. Characters from Martial Peak

8. Characters from Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha (Sasha & Misha)

9. Mash Burndead

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 6-B:

1. Yomoji Shinsei

2. Characters from Arifureta

3. Nessie

4. Ji Ning

5. Aisha Necron

6. Characters from Bleach

7. Calyrex

8. Characters from Mob Psycho (Keiji Mogami and Toichiro Suzuki)

9. Characters from Black Clover (Zagred, Yami Sukehiro and Morris Libardirt)

10. Taoru Characters (Gabriel, Mathers and Acqua)

11. Minato Namikaze

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 6-B:

1. Characters from Arifureta

2. Ark

3. Ji Ning

4. Oltura

5. Characters from Highschool DxD (Issei, Vali and Lucifer)

6. Hiyori Sarugaki

7. Sousei no Onmyouji (Rokuro Enmadou, Sakanashi and Benio Enmado)

8. Magali

9. Khi'zar Kha'jul

10. Characters from Witch Hunter (Edea, Tasha, Varete)

11. Characters from Psyren (Asuka, Miroku, Ageha)

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 6-C:

1. Ji Ning

2. Ard

3. Kamen Rider Ark-Zero

4. Sakanashi

5. Bebe

6. Grimm=Grimm

7. Characters from Martial Peak

8. Characters from Fire Emblem (Tiki and Naga)

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 6-C:

1. Xue Ying

2. Characters from Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha (Sasha & Misha)

3. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Mami Tomoe and Alina Gray)

4. Mephisto

5. Characters from Arifureta (Speed Equalized) / Nergal (Speed Unequalized)

6. Daphne

7. Obito Uchiha

8. Kamen Rider Kuuga

9. Shiro (Deadman Wonderland)

10. Ancient Lich King

11. Sonic the Hedgehog
12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 7-A:

1. Han

2. Zhong Yue

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. The Great Warlock

5. Characters from InFAMOUS (Cole MacGrath (Evil Karma) and The Beast)

6. Nergal

7. Kurumi Tokisaki

8. Characters from Sousei no Onmyouji Gabura, Arima, Tatara

9. Sasuke Uchiha

10. Travis Touchdown

11. Characters from Undead Unluck (Juiz, Sick, Seal)

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 7-A:

1. Han Jee-Han

2. Kumoko

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Characters from Death Mage

5. Geist Grace

6. Zhong Yue

7. Characters from Ergenverse

8. Arthas Menethil

9. Darquesse

10. Sirius

11. Itachi Uchiha

12. Characters from Highschool DxD (Issei, Rias and Vali)

13. Characters from Re:Zero Julius, Roswaal, Aldebaran

14. Tasha Godspell

15. Andy (Undead Unluck)

Tier 7-B:

1. Characters from Arifureta

2. Kakine Teitoku

3. Alan

4. Toujou Karuna

5. Brunhild Schild/El presidente (Speed equalized)

6. Shedinja

7. Characters from InFAMOUS (Kessler, Sasha and David Warner)

8. Salem

9. Sousei no Onmyouji (Kankuro Mitosaka (Manga), Kengo Uji (Manga), Hibari Zeze)

10. Characters from Killer Vamp (Domino, Shiro, Eden) (Speed equalized)/Onoki (Speed unequalized)

11. Arthur Leywin

12. Darquesse

13. Fran

14.

15.

Tier Low 7-B:

1. Theodore Miller

2. Characters from Sekien No Inganock

3. Characters from Godspeed (Speed Equal) / Giygas (Speed Unequalized)

4. Rikuo Nura

5. Characters from Pokémon

6. Darquesse

7. Sophia

8. Erma

9. Enel

10. Cascão

11. Black Fire

12. World Gobbler

13. Clover

14. Flect Turn

15.

Tier High 7-C:

1. Han Jee-Han

2. Fran (with Master (Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita)) (Speed Equalized) / Toujou Basara (Speed Unequalized)

3. Characters from Sekien No Inganock

4. Tao Hua

5. Brunhild Schild

6. Rikuo Nura

7. Shadow Man/JJK (Gojo, Sukuna)

8. Characters from Mission: Yozakura Family (Kyoichiro Yozakura and Futaba Yozakura)

9. Characters from Bakugan (Drago and Hydranoid)

10. Grim Heart

11. Erma

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 7-C:

1. Beiloune

2. Eshita Inana

3. Schwartz

4. The Hunter / Characters from Fray (Magpie and Legion)

5. Father

6. Crocodile (Speed Unequalized) \ Hei (Speed Equalized)

7. Ali

8. Travis Touchdown

9. Chicken

11. Garou / Grim Heart

12. Hollow

13. Characters from My Hero Academia

14.

15.

Tier Low 7-C:


Tier 8-A:


Tier 8-B:


Tier High 8-C:

1. Henry Stickmin (Speed Equalized) \ Characters from Kral Şakir (Speed Unequalized)

2. Choi Yoon-seok/ Deathmaster Snikch

3. Anri

4. Johnny Test

5. F (Alphabet)

6. Mardicus

7. Toujou Karuna

8. Bunny

9. Makoto Kawashita

10. Korosensei

11. Brandon Heat

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 8-C:

1. Trazyn the Infinite / Kim

2. Characters from Sekien no Inganock (Wendigo, Zahhak, Blood Tree)

3. El presidente

4. Characters from Nuclear Throne

5. Shana

6. Gleadr

7. Talion

8. Characters from Katana Zero (Zero, Fifteen and Headhunter)

9. Positron

10. Master Roshi

11. Isaac Clarke

12. Po

13. Liberty Prime

14. Miranda

15.

Tier 9-A:


Tier 9-B:


Tier 9-C:


Tier 10-A:

1. Characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (mainly Tooru & Rohan)/Gii

2. Sheville Warhand

3. Sabrina Spellman

4. Subaru Natsuki

5. Characters from Lord of the Mysteries

6. Jean Grey (Post-Retcon)

7. Ibzan

8. Kaworu Nagisa

9. Yuu

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 10-B:


Tier 10-C:


Tier 11-A:


Tier 11-B:


Tier 11-C:

 
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You did the spoilers wrong

It goes [SPOILER ](without the space)

List shit

[/ SPOILER](without the space between the word and the left edge)[/SPOILER]
 
Would it be too much to ask for a link to the profiles or matchups that are the representatives for that tier?
 
Okay now have Junko and nameless kill them.

You need to have defense AND offense to take spots, if you just incon a lot, you ain't taking shit.
The profiles are there to be read. Nameless Hax consists of resistance negation that bypasses 16 layers of abilities and induces death that kills every single type of thing in the verse, works on type 5 immortals and wipes away their soul and concept in the process.
 
The profiles are there to be read. Nameless Hax consists of resistance negation that bypasses 16 layers of abilities and induces death that kills every single type of thing in the verse, works on type 5 immortals and wipes away their soul and concept in the process.
High-godly giggles

So does plothax
 
Allow me to repost from the last thread:

Black Hole tied for the 4th spot in High 3-A. In his maximum-sized form, he literally becomes as big as his universe which is infinite in size, combined with the fact that he has passive deconstruction for his event horizon. Due to how he is infinitely large, SBA would end up starting his opponent literally inside of him which would kill them instantly if they don't resist deconstruction. As such:
  • Pokémon characters get instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance (+the Ghost types have their incorporeality negated with NPI that is able to interact with nonexistent beings)
  • Kurzgesagt Narrator gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance (+gets its incorporeality negated with NPI that is able to interact with nonexistent beings)
  • Monica Pinkston gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance
  • W.I.T.C.H. characters get instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance
  • Sauron gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance (+gets his incorporeality negated with NPI that is able to interact with nonexistent beings)
  • Mônica gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance
Black Hole would ultimately stop at Godcat, who ends up being an inconclusive match for him as he can't interact with Godcat's Abstract Existence while Godcat doesn't have the range to affect Black Hole's infinitely large size combined with the fact that he's 0-dimensional. Hence why I suggest they should be tied for that spot.
 
High godly regeneration is irrelevant when death is being induced, and did you miss where I said he was NEP 2? Prove that their plot hax can affect NEP 2 beings in the first place.
You need to prove this death overrides High-Godly

And plothax is "I win" IIRC, so it doesn't matter if it's directly affecting them or not, what matters is Dracula is under his own plothax and as such wins
 
Allow me to repost from the last thread:

Black Hole tied for the 4th spot in High 3-A. In his maximum-sized form, he literally becomes as big as his universe which is infinite in size, combined with the fact that he has passive deconstruction for his event horizon. Due to how he is infinitely large, SBA would end up starting his opponent literally inside of him which would kill them instantly if they don't resist deconstruction. As such:
  • Pokémon characters get instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance (+the Ghost types have their incorporeality negated with NPI that is able to interact with nonexistent beings)
  • Kurzgesagt Narrator gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance (+gets its incorporeality negated with NPI that is able to interact with nonexistent beings)
  • Monica Pinkston gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance
  • W.I.T.C.H. characters get instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance
  • Sauron gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance (+gets his incorporeality negated with NPI that is able to interact with nonexistent beings)
  • Mônica gets instantly deconstructed due to the lack of deconstruction resistance
Black Hole would ultimately stop at Godcat, who ends up being an inconclusive match for him as he can't interact with Godcat's Abstract Existence while Godcat doesn't have the range to affect Black Hole's infinitely large size combined with the fact that he's 0-dimensional. Hence why I suggest they should be tied for that spot.
And as stated previously, mindhax does not give a flying **** about how big he is, and he lacks interactions, so Sauron dumpsters him
 
Actually, After my revision regarding plot hax, all of them need to be revised. Since not only what they are doing needs to be mentioned, but also what they can effect and do.
As I said, it's basically "I win" plothax, what they can effect is what the people can affect, etc. You're gonna need to argue with I think Glass about Castlevania plothax shit
 
As I said, it's basically "I win" plothax, what they can effect is what the people can affect, etc. You're gonna need to argue with I think Glass about Castlevania plothax shit
Already did and it was a pain in the ass, Instead, I made a thread about it that got accepted. Now Plot hax "I win" is no different than "casualty manipulation "I win"
 
Already did and it was a pain in the ass, In stead I made a thread about it that got accepted. Now Plot hax "I win" is no different than "casualty manipulation "I win"
Yeah, but ya still need to override it with something better... and also beat the defense end of things.

Not saying I'd mind a shake-up in 2-C, but yeh
 
Ya need specific high-godly neg

Admittedly the most common kind of high-godly neg

But still high-godly neg

And Abstract Death Interaction
The first 3 no problem but the 4th one I am curious what you mean by "abstract death interaction"?

Also for the sake of simplicity, I will just link the Plot manipulation downgrade thread here if anyone wanna make a matchup against a plot manipulation user, and like the result of the thread here.
 
The first 3 no problem but the 4th one I am curious what you mean by "abstract death interaction"?
AE1 functions off of feats. This is what makes Warhammer fuckery interactible for all of one other verse. You need a feat of interacting with the abstraction of death to interact with ol' Drac over there
 
You need to prove this death overrides High-Godly

And plothax is "I win" IIRC, so it doesn't matter if it's directly affecting them or not, what matters is Dracula is under his own plothax and as such wins
How is he going to win if he can't even detect his opponent from the start? And since you insist high godly regen covers inducing death on someone, his death hax includes Nemesis, which is void manipulation and non-existence erasure on a type 2 scale. Not to mention, death itself who he’s one with is a type 2 NEP being , meaning all his abilities operate at this level. What do they have against that ?
 
How is he going to win if he can't even detect his opponent from the start? And since you insist high godly regen covers inducing death on someone, his death hax includes Nemesis, which is void manipulation and non-existence erasure on a type 2 scale. Not to mention, death itself who he’s one with is a type 2 NEP being , meaning all his abilities operate at this level. What do they have against that ?
It doesn't matter.

If you can't neg the regen and interact with Abstract Death, you aren't beating drac, doesn't matter how advanced you are
 
It doesn't matter.

If you can't neg the regen and interact with Abstract Death, you aren't beating drac, doesn't matter how advanced you are
Lol man. If you actually went through his profile, you’d know that the Nameless is and can interact with Death itself who resides beyond the soul flux, origin of all concepts .

And Dracula can't regenerate from hax that induces death then proceeds to erase both the soul and concept on a NEP 2 level, he isn’t winning
 
Lol man. If you actually went through his profile, you’d know that the Nameless is and can interact with Death itself who resides beyond the soul flux, origin of all concepts .

And Dracula can't regenerate from hax that induces death then proceeds to erases both the soul and concept on a NEP 2 level, he isn’t winning
And if you look at Nameless' profile yourself, you'd see an interesting tidbit that only his right arm is supposed to be "Death".

"Here's this irrelevant thing I think makes it more advanced, when really it doesn't because that kind of feat is just interaction" if you didn't understand that, it doesn't matter how big dick you think the erasure is, the regen goes above it
 
Nyanlathotep got 1-c based on Qs, so she is either 1-A or no longer qualifies either way, she must leave low 1-c.
 
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