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just woke up and finally make the changes
With the explanations I've given (and what others like Reaper have said) for why Wanda beats Hatou, can you put her above Hatou in the 9-B list?
(You can remove Storm from 9-B)
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just woke up and finally make the changes
With the explanations I've given (and what others like Reaper have said) for why Wanda beats Hatou, can you put her above Hatou in the 9-B list?
(You can remove Storm from 9-B)
done and happy birthdayCome on dude, I just had my birthday today
Yeahh, throwing in ShizueUgh, if you're throwing a tensura character that way it shouldn't matter but, it's prolly Tellah
Hey, we also have a stat brick here with High regen, but that's irrelevantfor the purposes of the list, Cecil is also in that tier but he is for all intents and purposes a stat brick
JRPG character syndrome yeah, in addition to his bad memory when it comes to magic and yeah he's cookedYeahh, throwing in Shizue
She took the non-smurf spot for that tier some time ago, before upgrades
So she by default beats Arifureta
The only problem there may be is Time Stop, but from what I see, he's extremely unlikely to use it
That's a + rating with amps vs a non + without amps, lmao noHey, we also have a stat brick here with High regen, but that's irrelevant
Maybe make a match between them?
don't remember/know, but even if it didn't, Ragna is right there, and if he dies, people are getting hit with a Low 1-C cosmology nuke off the back of someone who doesBlazBlue is likely where she stops, I remember their layers to the Phenomena stuff. Tho does it apply to Low 6-B characters?
Very little hax thoThat's a + rating with amps vs a non + without amps, lmao no
Isn't this still a loss?don't remember/know, but even if it didn't, Ragna is right there, and if he dies, people are getting hit with a Low 1-C cosmology nuke off the back of someone who does
It'd be inconIsn't this still a loss?
I remember there being some discussion on Self-Destruction techniques
And it's not even him in that case
It's a x2 gap without amps, greater with, but beyond that, destroying cecil's weapon/shield will **** him over since he's very much a knight, his ass is not yang or any of the other FF monksVery little hax tho
By Tensura standards
And Low 6-B is a very narrow tier. Baseline to peak is 10x. And Shogo is barely a +
I think we should probably wait for Blaz knowledgeable guys to continue thisIt'd be incon
And it's because he's the central fiction, the "dream watched by god", the moment he's gone, the world goes too
Fair enoughIt's a x2 gap without amps, greater with, but beyond that, destroying cecil's weapon/shield will **** him over since he's very much a knight, his ass is not yang or any of the other FF monks
Well they still gotta interact, so Warhammer 6-Cs, AKA Daemons, still stomp. Be'lakor in particular lolNominating Recollector to 6-C and High 6-C. Not sure who they can beat, since a lot of smurfs are here, but they do have Plot manip + Acausality type 3, so there's that.
Am I missing something? They aren't anywhere in 6-C nor High 6-C. Also I assume the Daemons are the whole acausality, nep, pp shenanigans?Well they still gotta interact, so Warhammer 6-Cs, AKA Daemons, still stomp. Be'lakor in particular lol
They should be in 6-C, probably #2 since chinaman that is a High 1-A smurf is #1, but yeah. The works.Am I missing something? They aren't anywhere in 6-C nor High 6-C. Also I assume the Daemons are the whole acausality, nep, pp shenanigans?
Well the adverse needs to be proven-- that Plot Manipulation can interact with em.Well, that shouldn't be a problem, since I doubt Recollector reaches number 2. Though that reminds me, is there any thread on how NEP, PP, Acausality, etc... interact with stuff that they haven't shown immunity to? For example, are Warhammer dudes immune to Plot stuff or something (Not saying Recollector wouldn't get insta-passive'd, but just wanna know the interactions)? I do recall a thread about it before, so If you have it, I'd really appreciate it.
Lack of Interactions and hax carry them though that oneThough, on that note, the number 3 spot seems to have 1-A shenanigans, 2 layers as well, it seems.
I'd argue digimon should be entirely capable of tying at worst with such based on general data fuckery, but 1-A hax bullshit may be too much, what exactly does belakor have again?Paraconastent physiology 2, acausality 5, every flavor of NEP, and like six flavors of AE1.
A layer in being uninteractible to all that, and then he just spams 1-A graded fatehax that lets him rewrite people's everything.I'd argue digimon should be entirely capable of tying at worst with such based on general data fuckery, but 1-A hax bullshit may be too much, what exactly does belakor have again?
Yeah fair nuff, they get thrown down to 4th then (below Belakor and recollector, the latter because, surprisingly enough, I don't think digimon has a single instance of madness 3 anywhere, I'd maybe argue that the Eaters process information in a strange enough way that they may not be affected but that is not something I'm doing rn)A layer in being uninteractible to all that, and then he just spams 1-A graded fatehax that lets him rewrite people's everything.
Link ?Well, that shouldn't be a problem, since I doubt Recollector reaches number 2. Though that reminds me, is there any thread on how NEP, PP, Acausality, etc... interact with stuff that they haven't shown immunity to?
Plot Manipulation needs feats of affecting abstracts, nonexistent beings, paraconsistent beings etc. like anything else.Well, that shouldn't be a problem, since I doubt Recollector reaches number 2. Though that reminds me, is there any thread on how NEP, PP, Acausality, etc... interact with stuff that they haven't shown immunity to? For example, are Warhammer dudes immune to Plot stuff or something (Not saying Recollector wouldn't get insta-passive'd, but just wanna know the interactions)? I do recall a thread about it before, so If you have it, I'd really appreciate it.
Though, on that note, the number 3 spot seems to have 1-A shenanigans, 2 layers as well, it seems.
On the front of abstracts, having the related hax (mind for wills, concept for concepts, etc etc) would and should also do the job, given you knowPlot Manipulation needs feats of affecting abstracts, nonexistent beings, paraconsistent beings etc. like anything else.
Well yes, but I felt that went without saying.On the front of abstracts, having the related hax (mind for wills, concept for concepts, etc etc) would and should also do the job, given you know