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Toneri's calc is obviously WRONG!

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Those can be used to scale, and they are Sub-Rel

Pretty much the profiles will just go back to how they were after the initial revisions and before the Toneri one; Sub-Relativistic.
 
I mean, you could recalc it, the problem is that the result wouldn't come even close to Relativistic.

We still have Sub-Rel feats so that's what they'd go back to.
 
Wasn't there a calc of Naruto doding Tineris TSB from close range? Iirc it was don't in the fight and was made by BMW
 
That's why I ask if we could attempted it. I don't know how to do calcs or timeframes when it comes to using said videos
 
I mean, you could recalc it, the problem is that the result wouldn't come even close to Relativistic.

We still have Sub-Rel feats so that's what they'd go back to.

what results would it give?
 
I don't think there are 2 sides to this, the general consensus seems to be that a downgrade is accepted.
 
no one has debunked the counter arguments made forth by Past Kep

just because Kep doesnt agree with them now does not invalidate them.

considering he has not countered them and his past arguments debunk his current one.


after that we can resume with the downgrades
 
The fact that he doesn't agree with them now implies that he no longer agrees with his previous arguments. Aka, the argument he made can no longer be used. Using the past arguments made by someone who no longer agrees with said arguments shouldn't be used. Kep doesn't agree with the Relativistic calc for Toreni and there seems to be issues with the calc itself, ergo it can't be used anymore. Just because we used it in the past doesn't mean that it's still accurate considering Kep the person who argued for it originally now disagrees with it and the calc itself is incorrect. If he were to still stick with his previous arguments he would have brought them up. Which he didn't.

I think it's fine to downgrade the Toneri calc, mostly due to the fact that the timeframe is arbitrary. The meteor would only start being visible once it crossed the higher atmosphere either way, so the timeframe we have would already make it lower.


The calc is wrong from what I've been gathering so it can't be used regardless of the prior arguments. The argument could possibly be legit however the arguments don't matter when the calc itself is incorrect.
 
People are just tired of non stop revisions,that's all.Even fans are not willing to participate.

Everything was adressed in previous threads.
 
Personally context wise it doesn't make sense for it to be a random meteor, it would make more sense that it was sent by Toneri

as for the timeframe we don't see it on our screen until Toneri has disappeared, nothing really suggests he sent it before but i can see why people may have a problem with the downgrade.

I'm going to remain neutral on this for now but i can see both sides of the argument.
 
There's none before this but there are some a while after, some of them falling due to Naruto's explosion on the moon and some falling naturally far later on in the movie when the moon is much closer.
 
Toneri being the cause of the meteor is obvious. When he sent it however isn't and the calc takes the most highballed assumption to get Rel results when most other assumptions are far more likely.
 
TataHakai said:
There's none before this but there are some a while after, some of them falling due to Naruto's explosion on the moon and some falling naturally far later on in the movie when the moon is much closer.
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I kbow that but after that meteor explodes we see the planet and there is non.
 
assuming that Toneri sent the meteor after warning is also most reasonable

i mean

attack first than warn i will kil u = doesn't make seance

normally

people warn first than attack not other-way around
 
I agree it's fairly obvious that the meteor was sent after the warning so the timeframe should still be around the same
 
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