Tohru vs Sans

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

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Tohru vs Sans

Win via KO, incapacitation, or death. SPEED EQUALIZED

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Me right now.

 

[Sans2345]

Well since sans is literally the most fastest character in all of undertale my vote goes to sans cause of his karmic retribution

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Seriously. It's in bold and all caps.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I'll stay out to hear other's thoughts, though leaning towards Tohru.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Huh, I was just thinking about what if Sans fought another teleporter. Weird.

Anyway, I think I'm gonna vote Tohru.

• Her invisiblity is her biggest advantage here. Though I think her attacks arin't? I might need to be corrected on that
• SBA range also benefits only Tohru
• Speaking of teleportation, how does her's work? Is it the same as Lucoa's?
• Forcefields and Clairvoyance are pretty selfexplanitory
• Would her healing and regen affect soul damage? I'm tempted to say no since healing and regen is usually only shown to be physical

As for Sans, his only real advantage is his much better teleportation, and that's countered pretty easily be invisibility, forcefields and claivoyance. His soul gravity won't likely be very useful her considering most of Tohru's combat willbe at range.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

• Her invisiblity is her biggest advantage here. Though I think her attacks arin't? I might need to be corrected on that

Her physical attacks are invisible but she hasn't used fire while in that state in the series yet IIRC.

• Speaking of teleportation, how does her's work? Is it the same as Lucoa's?

Not quite

• Would her healing and regen affect soul damage? I'm tempted to say no since healing and regen is usually only shown to be physical

AFAIK you need Mid-Godly to regenerate from soul damage. Also her healing is specifically the healing of others.

 

[Wokistan]

You'd need mid godly to Regen if you're EE'd including your soul. If your soul takes damage that doesn't destroy it, low godly should be good. People have low godly from regenning souls because their body didn't get destroyed as is.

 

[Wokistan]

Does this one have the portals? That can kinda neuter the whole danmaku thing.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Does this one have the portals?

Ye and she's the only one who's used them in combat thus far.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Bump

 

[Apatheticskell]

I don't really know much about tohru.

Is she always bloodlusted or does she have morals like don't kill people etc.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Why you asking?

 

[Apatheticskell]

I need to know wether KR would effect her if she has killed people or not

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Pretty sure we've established on this site that kill count does not make KR more or less effective

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean.


Would her invisibility make het soul invisible?

 

[Apatheticskell]

Ok If she has morals she would probably get rekt.

She would fall for the Dunk which is LITERALLY a tier 2 attack.

If you set your HP to infinite and spare sans he will still easily kill you.

So Sans if she has morals and if she always likes making friends

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

She would fall for the Dunk which is LITERALLY a tier 0 Attack.

What's that? Oh, it's all your credibility. Flying out the window.

But anyway, no she doesn't have morals, at least not to the point where it'd prevent her from engulfing him in flames, opening a portal underneath him, perception blocking before wailing on him, etc.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Ok still though this is a stomp in favor of tohru with equalized speed.

If no then the stomp EASILY Goes to sans

 

[Apatheticskell]

I mean.


Would her invisibility make het soul invisible?

No it won't

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Ok still though this is a stomp in favor of tohru with equalized speed.

Dude has had fair matches against the likes of Necrozma and Thanos. This is completely fair.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Those matches were not fair (though i'm not sure about the Thanos one)

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Others did it is still bad logic, whenever or not the statement is true.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Ok

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Well if it's all the same to you I'll let staff members be the judges on whether or not this is fair.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Ok

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

This is completely fair.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

You heard it here folks

 

[Sans2345]

Sans fra better teleportation

 

[Apatheticskell]

Sans still via Teleportation, Karmic retribution and soul manipulation.

Sans can always teleport to keep a distance away from Tohru, Sans' soul manipulation counters invisibility and His gravity manipulation/telekinesis will definitely give Tohru a BAD time.

Although i'm not sure how many people Tohru has killed otherwise I think KR would be too much form island level if she killed more than 10 people.

 

[Wokistan]

We don't consider KR like that, not really sure how soul manip means invisibility is irrelevant

 

[Apatheticskell]

We don't consider KR like that, not really sure how soul manip means invisibility is irrelevant

Your soul is not your corpreal body and Tohru only makes her corpreal body go invisible but not her soul this would be perfect for sans

Well multiple have considered that KR depends on Kill count.

 

[Apatheticskell]

KR does depend on kill count and sins it was freaking confirmed

 

[Wokistan]

That's fair, but it's still an advantage as a soul is a much smaller Target and as such harder to pinpoint.

Yeah we just don't do it that way on this site.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Tohru can also teleport btw. She also has no qualms with blasting him with fire right out the gate, opening a portal beneath him so he gets trapped on a different continent or even in a different universe, or block his perception of her.

 

[Apatheticskell]

That's fair, but it's still an advantage as a soul is a much smaller Target and as such harder to pinpoint.

Yeah we just don't do it that way on this site.

I've seen many people use KR depend on sins and kills so really sans' KR damage might be a 2 hit kill for Tohru if Tohru has killed more than 15 people especially wither her island level durability.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

She's killed hundreds if not thousands of people over the likely millions of years she's been alive.

But again, we don't treat KR like that.

 

[Wokistan]

Just because you've seen threads that are probably old doesn't mean we still do that. We don't accept that here now. Also tje PC kills like a hundred dudes and doesn't get 2 shot so what does that come from

 

[Apatheticskell]

She's killed hundreds if not thousands of people over the likely millions of years she's been alive.

But again, we don't treat KR like that.

I'm pretty sure the damage Karmic retribution will do is not even funny. I mean it has been stated in Sans' profile KR is KARMA and then we also no KR is karma based on lines like you felt your since crawling on your back and You felt KARMA coursing through your veins.

So really we should begin treating KR like that .

sans might 1-hit Kill or insta-Kill Tohru via KR, Tohru will have to get careful not to get hit but since speed is equalized I guess she will get hit and die.

I say sans wins via greater and better HAXES such as soul manipulation, telekinesis, gravity manipulation, KARMA damage, spatial manipulation and minor reality warping(extremely minor).

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

So really we should begin treating KR like that

But we don't.