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Tohka vs. Esdeath
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Because all explosion work like this? i mean, people aren't immunised by their explosion because they created it
Huh?
If you are the one expelling Energy you are not hurt by it.
Is every character that can repeatedly shoot out 7B attacks capable of repeatedly tanking 7B attacks? No, because they are the ones expelling the energy.
She created the explosion, mo reason she would be hurt by it.
Huh?
If you are the one expelling Energy you are not hurt by it.
Is every character that can repeatedly shoot out 7B attacks capable of repeatedly tanking 7B attacks? No, because they are the ones expelling the energy.
She created the explosion, mo reason she would be hurt by it.
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You didn't get the point, it's not an explosion created by throwing at Ki blast by touching the ground or something like that, she created an Omnidirectionnal explosion, she was at the epicenter of this explosion, that's my point, i didn't talk about People who can trow energy blast and mean that they can tank their own or something.Schnee One said:
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While normal physics decree that with like, every law of physics, she would be hit by her own attacks or the reverse force..
Anime has a thing where people are very often either immune to their own attacks or are murdering themselves with their own attacks, like the My Hero Academia protagonist.
Anime has a thing where people are very often either immune to their own attacks or are murdering themselves with their own attacks, like the My Hero Academia protagonist.
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What's the difference?
Both of them are attacks that the character expels by themselves on their own.
If attacks that are generated by said character don't hurt you but explosions generated by said character do, then fair enough but I don't get it
She's generating the explosion, the explosion wouldn't hurt her unless she literally blew up from the inside like an actual bomb.
Both of them are attacks that the character expels by themselves on their own.
If attacks that are generated by said character don't hurt you but explosions generated by said character do, then fair enough but I don't get it
She's generating the explosion, the explosion wouldn't hurt her unless she literally blew up from the inside like an actual bomb.
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^This is a very good pointThePixelKirby said:
On second thought Nevermind she probably Tanks a couple attacks. But I don't think a blade will be easy to shrug off in time stop
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Why?ThePixelKirby said:
So you think a blade attack to the vital spot isn't going to kill you?
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It's actually this, her own body generated the explosion without purpose, with Physics law, (Newton's second law) she need to be as/more durable that this.Schnee One said:
Anyway, If Esdeath can stab Tohka in the head during the Time stop, then she take this, if not, Tohka overpower and probably win.
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Esdeath always goes for the fastest kill so she probably strikes to do a throat slash or heart stab.
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Honestly, I dont think that Esdeath would be able to kill her in time, her time stop simply does not last long enough with the AP gap for her to be able to hurt Tohka and she has no durability ignoring attacks. In fact I dont even think that Esdeath would get the chance to time stop unless she does it after the first couple of hits.
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She's not going to get hit unless Tohka catches her off guard .
She's a perfectionist, and in the series she hasn't not time stopped an attack she couldn't dodge aside from Akame who snuck up behind her.
She's a perfectionist, and in the series she hasn't not time stopped an attack she couldn't dodge aside from Akame who snuck up behind her.
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She's not going to get hit unless Tohka catches her off guard .
Bold claim. She does not have precognition or instinctive reaction, only her perception is anything relevant, she does not have any crazy substitution shit either. All she really has is afterimage creation which judging by Tohka's profile does not matter since she has crazy aoe attacks.
Bold claim. She does not have precognition or instinctive reaction, only her perception is anything relevant, she does not have any crazy substitution shit either. All she really has is afterimage creation which judging by Tohka's profile does not matter since she has crazy aoe attacks.
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Why is that bold?
It's not like Tohka has attacks that are incredibly hard to see and intercept from 4KM away no less.
It's not like Tohka has attacks that are incredibly hard to see and intercept from 4KM away no less.
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And if esdeath wants to do damage she would have to get closer as per her usual way of fighting.
My point is when they both come to the point that they actually do damage to each other she would get hit.
My point is when they both come to the point that they actually do damage to each other she would get hit.
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She doesn't go CQC in this form, she Range spams as her ice is much stronger
She can't do much damage unless there's no Astral Dress.
But why? Esdeath isn't going to sit there and take it, she's not a blind idiot.
She can't do much damage unless there's no Astral Dress.
But why? Esdeath isn't going to sit there and take it, she's not a blind idiot.
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3x is far more durable? Not really.
That still doesn't prevent a blade from striking you in a fleshy/less durable part of your body.
That still doesn't prevent a blade from striking you in a fleshy/less durable part of your body.
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Voting Incon I think
It all depends on what Esdeath does when time is stopped.
It all depends on what Esdeath does when time is stopped.
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Tohka: 0
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 1
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 1
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I mean is there any reason to assume she won't go in for the kill?Schnee One said:
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Good thing you can still kill them with a good strike to the throat
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Tohka FRA.
Shido vs Tatsumi next owo
Shido vs Tatsumi next owo
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What reasons?
Dura alone doesn't prevent you from dying
Dura alone doesn't prevent you from dying
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Actually **** it, tanking a 525 Teraton attack should save you from a single stab, Esdeath probably could win if she went for multiple strikes but she doesn't do that
Tohka FRA
Tohka FRA
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Tohka: 3
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 0
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 0
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I hope my previous comment wasn't counted as a vote, btw.
I'm gonna vote Tohka here. The AP difference kinda does matter. Also, Absolute Zero isn't exactly a durability negator.
I'm gonna vote Tohka here. The AP difference kinda does matter. Also, Absolute Zero isn't exactly a durability negator.
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has my vote been counted because I voted Tohka in my first comment.
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Tohka: 5
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 0
Tell me if I'm missing another vote.
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 0
Tell me if I'm missing another vote.
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So here's what I think...
Because both sides are in-character, I don't see Esdeath pulling out the time stop first thing seeing as how she doesn't it in-character and the fact that she can only use it once in this battle.
I was thinking Esdeath maybe could drag out the fight and wear Tohka out and finish her off with Makohadoma.
However, it's very difficult against someone like Tohka. Considering her level of durability and the fact that this version of Tohka has Mio's powers. I feel that Tohka has the stat advantage here.
And I don't think Esdeath got what it takes to finish Tohka off.
Voting for Tohka taking this fight low-mid diff
Because both sides are in-character, I don't see Esdeath pulling out the time stop first thing seeing as how she doesn't it in-character and the fact that she can only use it once in this battle.
I was thinking Esdeath maybe could drag out the fight and wear Tohka out and finish her off with Makohadoma.
However, it's very difficult against someone like Tohka. Considering her level of durability and the fact that this version of Tohka has Mio's powers. I feel that Tohka has the stat advantage here.
And I don't think Esdeath got what it takes to finish Tohka off.
Voting for Tohka taking this fight low-mid diff
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This version of Tohka does not have Mio's powers
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Didn't he say it's the High 6-B version tho? Isn't that the form where she possess the rest of the spirit's power and abilities?Schnee One said:
Regardless, I've yet to be convinced that Esdeath has a good chance here.
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Not the current High 6-B/6-A key
No
No
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NoSchnee One said:
I see...
Even then, Esdeath will not pull out Time Stop first thing since it's out of character. Touka's still a powerhouse and I don't think Esdeath can hold her own for too long.
My point still stands.
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I never disagreed
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Tohka: 6
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 0
Esdeath: 1
Incon: 0
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Tohka FRA
