Toei Dragon Ball Minor Revision

[Mr.Cinos15]

So the Cell Saga 4-A feat and Buu Saga 3-C feat are no more?

 

[SamanPatou]

If we follow my idea, the 4-A Broly feat stays limited to the Broly movies (as they are all sequels to the other) while the Buu 4-A one stays for the anime and for the movies whose events happen after the Buu saga.

Also, making a profile/key for each version of Goku is useless, there's really no need, they would all be copy-pastas with different stats, and at the end of the day what matters of the movies are the villains.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Alright, so Cell Saga god tiers would scale or downscale to the exact same 4-B feat as the manga, and Buu Saga god tiers scale to Kid Buu's 4-A feats (which needs to be calc'ed).

Also, did someone recalc the anime version of Vegeta's destruction? There was a thread saying that the calc made an assumption.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If we follow my idea, the 4-A Broly feat stays limited to the Broly movies (as they are all sequels to the other) while the Buu 4-A one stays for the anime and for the movies whose events happen after the Buu saga.

Also, making a profile/key for each version of Goku is useless, there's really no need, they would all be copy-pastas with different stats, and at the end of the day what matters of the movies are the villains.

Broly's 4-A feat is unquantified, so as of now the Cell Games / Buu Saga characters just downscale from Buu's feat rather than upscaling from Broly.

Maybe if the feat would actually be quantified, then they could upscale from that value

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So the Cell Saga 4-A feat and Buu Saga 3-C feat are no more?

Pretty much yeah, Buu has his own 4-A feat that the Cell Games / Buu Saga characters can downscale from, but 3-C would be removed

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Alright, now we just need a calc for Buu's 4-A feats and a recalc of Vegeta's destruction.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Alright, now we just need a calc for Buu's 4-A feats and a recalc of Vegeta's destruction.

Buu has a calc already. It's 51.7 ExaFoe

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Oh, well I'm dumb lol.

Thanks for informing me!

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

No problem. Though the Vegeta feat does sound interesting. You have link?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Oh no, I meant Vegeta as in the planet, sorry for the confusion.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Oh no, I meant Vegeta as in the planet, sorry for the confusion.

You have a link for that?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Ah, here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/about-toeiverse-friezas-feat.111199/

Edit: my bad, it's this one: https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-anime-revision.110000/

 

[sanicspood]

so could we make a whole new profile for movie goku and switch the current one into anime only ?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

so could we make a whole new profile for movie goku and switch the current one into anime only ?

I guess

But anway let's get back to topic. We need to get these revisions accepted first

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Bump

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Bump

 

[SamanPatou]

Btw, I think this can be applied.

Everyone accepted and the calc is fine.
If the Kaiok-ken x100 is legit, I guess Super Slug can be Low 4-C.

I don't know about the others who were low 4-C, I don't remember who upscales besides Slug and Bardock

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Btw, I think this can be applied.

Everyone accepted and the calc is fine.
If the Kaiok-ken x100 is legit, I guess Super Slug can be Low 4-C.

I don't know about the others who were low 4-C, I don't remember who upscales besides Slug and Bardock

Ok. Can you open the profiles so I can apply the changes?

Also, there's another ongoing thread about if movie characters should be scaled to anime so I'll hold off from kaioken times 100 now

 

[SamanPatou]

Can you make a list of the profiles that need to be opened? I will do in 15-20 minutes.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Son Goku (Toei)

Bardock

Turles

Garlic Jr.

Chilled

All the rest are unlocked

 

[SamanPatou]

They are all open.

 

[Lord_JJJ]

Wait if Lord Slug is stronger than fisrt form Frieza shouldn't he be High 4C?

 

[StrymULTRA]

They are all open.

Now that I think, if GT doesen't scale from OVAs, doesen't that mean that GT ends up as FTL?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Now that I think, if GT doesen't scale from OVAs, doesen't that mean that GT ends up as FTL?

GT scales from DBZ, which already have MFTL+ feats such as the Goku and Pikkon feat

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

They are all open.

Just realized something.

Does Base Goku in The Tree of Might scale to King Vegeta's feat? Because if so, then Turles after eating the fruit would scale to 18 Tenatons by stomping Kaioken times 10 Goku, which will make him Low 4-C

 

[SamanPatou]

I think yes, the fact that Goku knows the Kaio-ken means he trained with King Kai, and after that he was able to match Vegeta, who's superior to his father.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I think yes, the fact that Goku knows the Kaio-ken means he trained with King Kai, and after that he was able to match Vegeta, who's superior to his father.

Ok, so that would mean Turles would be Low 4-C after eating the fruit

 

[StrymULTRA]

GT scales from DBZ, which already have MFTL+ feats such as the Goku and Pikkon feat

I thought that feat was from Fusion Reborn lmao.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I thought that feat was from Fusion Reborn lmao.

This is from the Otherworld Tournament Saga iirc

 

[StrymULTRA]

This is from the Otherworld Tournament Saga iirc

Ik, realized just now, it's been ages from when I watched anything TOEIverse related.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Wait, Saiyan Saga Goku scales to King Vegeta's feat right?

Because if he does, then with Kaioken times 4 he'll be 7.2 Tenatons, which is High 5-A+

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

King Vegeta's power level was 10,000 in the anime, whoever is close to 10,000 or above it would scale. Toei Bardock is scaled to Toei King Vegeta since his power level was approaching that of the King's but was at 9,000 or so, the same power level range as that of Toei base saiyan saga Goku I think.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Goku's power level as 8,000 in the Saiyan Saga, so it's not that far off, especially since King Vegeta did his feat super casually

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Yeah he should at least downscale slightly since he's very close to Toei Bardock's power level, who's just slightly weaker than the King.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah he should at least downscale slightly since he's very close to Toei Bardock's power level, who's just slightly weaker than the King.

If so, then this would mean that Kaioken times 3 Goku and Saiyan Saga Vegeta would be High 5-A+

Which means that Base Goku in the Tree of Might would also scale to High 5-A+ by being above Kaioken times 3 Saiyan Saga Goku and Saiyan Saga Vegeta, especially since he had a power level of 30,000 in the movie

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

That sounds about right.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I'll wait to see what the other staff members think about it too

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Understandable

 

[SamanPatou]

Everything seems to make sense, especially if the 30k power level is legit.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Everything seems to make sense, especially if the 30k power level is legit.

It is valid. Turles measures Goku's power level as 30,000 here