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Toaru Level 5s vs Anime Groups
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Not sure really. It’s very possible it could affect just as much as she could manipulate her mind to not fear or become insane, by changing the way her brain works.
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The way Misaki’s mind manipulation works is different. She’s can directly manipulate the brain and how it functions as well as do other things.
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man Asura madness doesn't work through enemies' brains it's just irrelevant and works even on spirits.(Nidhogg/Flying Dutchman)
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My point being that she can affect the way she would perceive Kishin.
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It doesn't matter
Asura's madness doesn't depend on your perception he literally affected the whole planet being on the moon affecting people who never perceived him.
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That is what I am referring to, yes. The tiers on the wiki.
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Kakine won't be affected by mind hax when he has no mind. His can also regenerate from quarks
Accelerator does
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explain why pls
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The tiers on the wiki aren’t related to hax though. Hax doesn’t take tiers into account, it bypasses them.
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Your missing on so much stuff. Hax can be determined by dimensionality, Accelerator is a good example (his attack reflection is High 1-C)
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Well ok dimensionality is an exception. Accelerator’s vector manipulation technically isn’t hax, it’s just a really powerful ability. Like if someone could use lasers that could cut universes, it’s not actually hax but a very powerful version of the ability.
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Attack reflection is hax.....
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No it’s not?
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i'm talking to walls ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ type 3 madness has nothing to do with minds!!!!!
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But type 3 is literally called Cognition which is mental processes……
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I'm referring to type 3 of the Great Old Ones where none of that matters and any character on the Toaru side passively commits suicide.
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Ok ignoring the others, Accelerator might not get affected. I’m not an expert on how he works though
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I'm going to sleep, someone explain why it doesn't work on the accelerator.
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if an attack has to travel a distance to hit him it automatically gets returned to sender via his passive Vector Shield's reflection that works on up to H1C(11D) AP. It can also block out pretty much anything he doesn't want touching him like sound waves, light rays, magic, etc. To hit him you need an attack without vectors(something like infinite speed.)
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Aiura has: Clairvoyance, can see the future, and the fate/luck of people, and can see death marks.
Toritsuka has: Mediumship, he can call ghosts to possess them and thus acquire, momentarily, their abilities and can take out the soul of other people (He also has a Telepathy canceller).
Saiki has: Reality Warping, Petrification, Mind Manipulation that scales to the entire planet, Dura Neg via Water Manip, the ability to make someone mentally a child (Mind Manip), Time Manipulation, Duplication, Creation, Invulnerability, limited Adaptation, Minor Biological Manipulation Via RW. Etc...
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How does the Reality warping,time manip,invulnerability,and petrificastion work?
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Petrification: Looks you in the eye and 24 hours of stone.
Time Manipulation (Has Many Variations)/Time Travel: Instantaneous, although if someone realizes that there are 2 versions of him, he returns to the present.
Invulnerability via RW: He made the underwear indestructible. (Could also apply to himself)
Reality warping: Changed the human genome so that pink hair is not abnormal, gave everyone a regeneration to heal rapidly from minor injuries, increased brain capacity in critical situations, and it's instantaneous
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Petrificatio does nothing to Accelerator (since its sigth based) and Kakine ignores it.
Can they stop time?
Invulnerability gets ignored by dura neg
Reality warping doesn't seem helpful if that's all it can do
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Accelerator and Kakine are sub relativistic. The gap is not big, so no
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He can create time loops, and Time Travel is instant so he can go back to when they were kids and kill them.
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Saiki only used RW when he was 6 years old and he refuses to use it because it is his most dangerous power. Also because you can't get rid of something that has already changed.
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Is it in character? Also time travel might not work since it's against the board chairman's plan to kill accelerator and misaka so uh...they might get assassinated
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So not in character...then it doesn't matter
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The time loops can happen without him wanting to, (Once he was trapped by 16000 blues) or if he wants (He kept the earth in a time loop for 4 years so that his power would grow and prevent a volcanic eruption that would affect everything Japan).
11880495.1 m/s vs 45875329 m/s
It is a difference of almost 4 times
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ok... thanks for explaining but in the case of the Great Old Ones it wouldn't make any difference the passive madness doesn't need to traverse distances and even affects separate dimensions.
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Saiki can travel 20 years into the past and kill his parents.
Also, Saiki's power is constantly growing and he used Time Loops to make it grow more.
He also has Full Force: Without any caution, Kusuo's power increases every time he attacks.
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Still irrelevant when Accel has a passive high 1c attack reflection barrier
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If it works by affecting the soul it shouldn’t affect Kakine at all, he doesn’t have a soul.
Saiki would never go back in time and kill someone for a fight though, and the time loop’s were a passive thing.
Madness is caused by effecting someone’s soul and it travels via wavelengths, which wouldn’t be whitelisted, and therefore couldn’t affect Accelerator.
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