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The point of this thread is figuring out if Accelerator's manipulation of celestial bodies applies a comparable physical blow onto the target (in this case Coronzon).
Accelerator shook a galaxy and thus has Solar System AP with platinum wings.Here's the feat in question:
“Damn...you!! What are you doing? That isn’t the Sephiroth or the Qliphoth. If...if you
embed something like this in the world, it will change things even more fundamentally
than Angel Fall!!”
“I don’t know what that means, so I’ll get right to the point. Qliphah Puzzle 545 has told
me most everything. You’re such a pain in the ass because you have a physical body of
flesh and blood. So I’ll shift that aside and cut it away.”
“Are you trying to apply a powerful external pressure to remove my soul from this
temporary body!?”
The microcosm of the body and the macrocosm of the planet were linked.
When something happened to one, it affected the other.
That theory was usually applied to use the micro as a way of moving the macro. To put it
extremely simply, refining magic power in the body and moving the arms or legs would
distort the larger physical world and produce flames or ice from the hand.
But this monster was different.
He used the macro as a way of moving the micro.
By adding a large tree to the cosmos and thoroughly shaking the world out to the ends of
the galaxy, he was applying a physical blow to a single person’s flesh and blood.
All to force an astral projection initiated by an external third party.
Now, had the #1 realized how similar this was to the holistic esper power some had hoped
to create within the immortal monster sealed for so long inside the Windowless Building
and freed by Lightning God Thor?
“Gah.”
“This will eliminate what made you so special. Being the strongest is boring. It’s like a
poison that dulls your sense of pain. You only get to see who you truly are once it’s been
stripped from you. So I’ll show you, Coronzon. I’ll show you who you are when you’re
stripped bare!!”
-Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 22 Chapter 4 Part 16
embed something like this in the world, it will change things even more fundamentally
than Angel Fall!!”
“I don’t know what that means, so I’ll get right to the point. Qliphah Puzzle 545 has told
me most everything. You’re such a pain in the ass because you have a physical body of
flesh and blood. So I’ll shift that aside and cut it away.”
“Are you trying to apply a powerful external pressure to remove my soul from this
temporary body!?”
The microcosm of the body and the macrocosm of the planet were linked.
When something happened to one, it affected the other.
That theory was usually applied to use the micro as a way of moving the macro. To put it
extremely simply, refining magic power in the body and moving the arms or legs would
distort the larger physical world and produce flames or ice from the hand.
But this monster was different.
He used the macro as a way of moving the micro.
By adding a large tree to the cosmos and thoroughly shaking the world out to the ends of
the galaxy, he was applying a physical blow to a single person’s flesh and blood.
All to force an astral projection initiated by an external third party.
Now, had the #1 realized how similar this was to the holistic esper power some had hoped
to create within the immortal monster sealed for so long inside the Windowless Building
and freed by Lightning God Thor?
“Gah.”
“This will eliminate what made you so special. Being the strongest is boring. It’s like a
poison that dulls your sense of pain. You only get to see who you truly are once it’s been
stripped from you. So I’ll show you, Coronzon. I’ll show you who you are when you’re
stripped bare!!”
-Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 22 Chapter 4 Part 16
Coronzon clenched her teeth with her physical body gone and her essence exposed.
[...]
A rainbow-colored beam of light erupted out as a merciless surprise attack from behind
Kamijou Touma.
There was nothing he could do.
A sizzling sound followed.
Kamijou Touma’s right arm was forcibly severed at the shoulder and flew through the air.
Even if it functioned as a reference point for the world, it could not be converted into a
destructive power once it was removed from his body. It could not punch Coronzon in the
face anymore.
“!!”
The boy clenched his teeth as if restraining something trying to leave his body.
But...
“I cannot be stopped. I am Great Demon Coronzon, the destructive power that returns the
world to its rightful circulation!!”
If she unleashed another Magick: Flaming_Sword from point-blank range now, it was all
over. Kamijou Touma had nothing to defend himself with, so the rest of his body would
be reduced to mincemeat.
However.
Magic was a technique of distorting the world’s causality for your own purposes. Its sparks
and spray would eventually find their way back to influence the magic user in unexpected
ways. An action taken to achieve a certain goal could end up crushing that very some goal
in some hidden way.
In this case, that was seen when something burst from Kamijou Touma’s right shoulder
with an unpleasant noise.
It was like dark red fish eggs. But that collection of perfectly triangular surfaces seemed
to symbolize the artificial. Those artificial objects were like the polygons in a video game.
They came in all sizes, they were connected together, and they moved like a single giant
arm.
There was no pain.
This was what he had worked so hard to restrain. It was...
“Wha—?”
There was a deafening straining sound. It did not just come from the shoulder where the
arm had been. Kamijou Touma’s entire body gave off a great din that never should have
come from a human. The control had shifted. Instead of the boy controlling his right
hand’s power, the hidden power now raced throughout the boy’s entire body.
What was going through his head as his body moved against his will?
Or was he capable of taking an objective view of the situation?
“No...it’s going to come out... You have...someone to rely on, don’t you? Then go ask for
their help, Coronzon!!!!!!”
What followed was a sticky sound like bursting bubbles.
The objects that resembled giant fish eggs made from triangular surfaces burst within as
something else made an appearance. But this was not just one thing. That swarm was
clearly larger than the boy’s own body. The boy was not controlling the power; he was
hanging from the power. That was the symbolism here.
And.
And.
And.
It happened with a deafening roar.
There was also a blinding flash of light.
The temple was torn apart from within and the entire Queen Britannia was split in two.
[...]
A rainbow-colored beam of light erupted out as a merciless surprise attack from behind
Kamijou Touma.
There was nothing he could do.
A sizzling sound followed.
Kamijou Touma’s right arm was forcibly severed at the shoulder and flew through the air.
Even if it functioned as a reference point for the world, it could not be converted into a
destructive power once it was removed from his body. It could not punch Coronzon in the
face anymore.
“!!”
The boy clenched his teeth as if restraining something trying to leave his body.
But...
“I cannot be stopped. I am Great Demon Coronzon, the destructive power that returns the
world to its rightful circulation!!”
If she unleashed another Magick: Flaming_Sword from point-blank range now, it was all
over. Kamijou Touma had nothing to defend himself with, so the rest of his body would
be reduced to mincemeat.
However.
Magic was a technique of distorting the world’s causality for your own purposes. Its sparks
and spray would eventually find their way back to influence the magic user in unexpected
ways. An action taken to achieve a certain goal could end up crushing that very some goal
in some hidden way.
In this case, that was seen when something burst from Kamijou Touma’s right shoulder
with an unpleasant noise.
It was like dark red fish eggs. But that collection of perfectly triangular surfaces seemed
to symbolize the artificial. Those artificial objects were like the polygons in a video game.
They came in all sizes, they were connected together, and they moved like a single giant
arm.
There was no pain.
This was what he had worked so hard to restrain. It was...
“Wha—?”
There was a deafening straining sound. It did not just come from the shoulder where the
arm had been. Kamijou Touma’s entire body gave off a great din that never should have
come from a human. The control had shifted. Instead of the boy controlling his right
hand’s power, the hidden power now raced throughout the boy’s entire body.
What was going through his head as his body moved against his will?
Or was he capable of taking an objective view of the situation?
“No...it’s going to come out... You have...someone to rely on, don’t you? Then go ask for
their help, Coronzon!!!!!!”
What followed was a sticky sound like bursting bubbles.
The objects that resembled giant fish eggs made from triangular surfaces burst within as
something else made an appearance. But this was not just one thing. That swarm was
clearly larger than the boy’s own body. The boy was not controlling the power; he was
hanging from the power. That was the symbolism here.
And.
And.
And.
It happened with a deafening roar.
There was also a blinding flash of light.
The temple was torn apart from within and the entire Queen Britannia was split in two.
Everyone may have been satisfied with Great Demon Coronzon’s defeat.
But after separating the soul from the body, they had focused their attacks on just one of
those two parts. That meant the other part remained.
In other words, the body of flesh and blood that Coronzon had used as a temporary vessel.
“...Gh...?”
That demon clung to her fading consciousness and moved her lungs.
No, she tried to move them.
But she could not manage a single breath. Was it the Gnostics who called the body no
more than a cage for the soul? But for Coronzon now, her body was no more than an
execution device. She could not move a finger and she could only watch as she sank into
the depths of the cold ocean.
-Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 22 Afterword
But after separating the soul from the body, they had focused their attacks on just one of
those two parts. That meant the other part remained.
In other words, the body of flesh and blood that Coronzon had used as a temporary vessel.
“...Gh...?”
That demon clung to her fading consciousness and moved her lungs.
No, she tried to move them.
But she could not manage a single breath. Was it the Gnostics who called the body no
more than a cage for the soul? But for Coronzon now, her body was no more than an
execution device. She could not move a finger and she could only watch as she sank into
the depths of the cold ocean.
-Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 22 Afterword
So in essence, I see two scenarios.
Scenario 1: If Accelerator's attack does apply a solar system level physical blow, Coronzon would get upgraded to "at least Solar System" durability since her vessel tanked it w/o damage. Niang-Niang (and the rest of the MGs who are comparable to her), Aleister, Avatarless Aiwass, and even base form "Post-Qliphah Accelerator" would also get upgraded for either fighting or injuring Coronzon. It's a damn Ouroboros scaling chain and would thus come with more issues that need to be resolved.
Scenario 2: If Accelerator's attack doesn't apply a solar system level physical blow, then this aspect is non-combat applicable and we might need to reword the AP and durability in Accelerator's profile.