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To slay a Demon; Tokita Ohma vs Baki Hanma
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Well close to impossible yes but
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The amount of babbling in one post is unbelievable.
First off, yes he copied them all but he didn't improve upon any of them, he doesn't even have The Mach Fist on the level of Katsumi. (True.) I also don't recall any Flowing Fist technique in the verse and Vice Grip is simple AP, not a skillful technique.
I've read all of Baki and am caught up, you just overestimate Baki.
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Yeah he dad taught him Banda.
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I'd give to to Baki, who is far stronger than the likes of Garland, a Russian wrestler who slammed into the side of the wall within the Tokyo underground arena and shook the entire stadium at this time, he also is stronger than Gaia and his squad, whom fight in warzones and demolish platoons of tanks barehanded.
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All of those are below 8-C, which Ohma scales to.
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^^^
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Ohma's already more than used to defending himself from other Niko users, so copying it won't be very useful here. Advance vs Demon Back would be ******* awesome to see man, although you'd probably overdose on the sheer testosterone from the fight lol
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Also looks like after the Kengan CRT Ohma will have Resistance Precognition, and Resistance to Information Analysis via Demonsbane. So that takes away some of Baki's more prominent abilities.
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I love this match! It's a good day to see that this is possible thanks to the recent stat changes. It almost seems like the revisions were intentionally done to this direction- Joking aside, I ain't complaining, I'm all up for a great match.
Sadly, I think this won't be very fair thanks to the AP difference, as much as I love it conceptually. Baki would scale as a bit above 0,02 tons, significantly more with the Demonback. Ohma with Ironbreaker alone, and that before his evolution, scales to 0,45 tons. At a very minimum it is an advantage of a few times, if we assume Baki boosted all the way up to 0,1 tons, and that is Ohma without even using the Advance, and Baki is using all the imaginable buffs.
I'll analyse later, but the AP difference may make this a bit unfair for ol' Baki. From first glance, I'd bet on Ohma taking this. I think that Baki has more raw skill and capabilities, but Ohma is not far from it, and he's way stronger in AP and Durability, and I think he is much more versatile at this point of the manga.
But it's a shallow analysis, I'll need to see it way more in depth.
Also, this is true. I'd pay real money to see this.
Sadly, I think this won't be very fair thanks to the AP difference, as much as I love it conceptually. Baki would scale as a bit above 0,02 tons, significantly more with the Demonback. Ohma with Ironbreaker alone, and that before his evolution, scales to 0,45 tons. At a very minimum it is an advantage of a few times, if we assume Baki boosted all the way up to 0,1 tons, and that is Ohma without even using the Advance, and Baki is using all the imaginable buffs.
I'll analyse later, but the AP difference may make this a bit unfair for ol' Baki. From first glance, I'd bet on Ohma taking this. I think that Baki has more raw skill and capabilities, but Ohma is not far from it, and he's way stronger in AP and Durability, and I think he is much more versatile at this point of the manga.
But it's a shallow analysis, I'll need to see it way more in depth.
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Life and Death? Baki can definitely kill, but hasn't in canon iirc. Ohma on the other hand has plenty experience in killing his opponents, although he does try not to kill as of the KAT tournament. So I'd say Ohma is better at a fight to the death, although either combatant here would try to kill each other. Both Ohma and Baki would have a mutual respect for one another and want to drag the fight out.
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Depends on which Jack, if they're comparable then Setsuna mangles him via hax.
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Id assume it'd be the death row prisoners arc jack yeah. Looking at their profiles for this really surprised me
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Just finished reading kengan.
Does ohma have an answer for the brain rattle punch? One of the faster characters in kengan needed several successful blows to do what baki can do in one punch. So Baki could most likely land it. Ignoring Ohmas durability and making whittling him down via battle of attrition.
Does ohma have an answer for the brain rattle punch? One of the faster characters in kengan needed several successful blows to do what baki can do in one punch. So Baki could most likely land it. Ignoring Ohmas durability and making whittling him down via battle of attrition.
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Ohma's already been violently concussed and fought throughout it already. He could also just redirect the blow away so he doesn't get hit at all, similarly to how he countered Gensai's rush which were aimed for vitals.
Also now Ohma has Pressure Point and Resistance to Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction, which seriously renders Baki's more notable skills moot. So he won't be able to predict Ohma's moves or analyze him to find weaknesses in his moves.
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So it seems like the match is in Ohmas favor then. He can redirect all of bakis hardest punches.
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Correct I'd even argue that Ohma stomps now since he's resistant to two of Baki's major abilities, prediction and analysis.
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Could baki possibly copy
If anybody can rip off a technique they just saw its a hamna
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Copy the Niko Style? Most likely not, The Niko Style is insanely versatile, and some Kata's wouldn't work properly even if copied. Ohma controls the Flow of Power itself so Baki wouldn't be able to copy the Redirection Kata.
And Ohma can defend from other Niko Style users.
And Ohma can defend from other Niko Style users.
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Demonsbane is basically unavoidable for Baki, it's a formless technique making it resistant to Prediction and analysis. It's hard for even Kuroki Gensai to counter and his Foresight is able to work on Formless moves.
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Spite
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Hm correct Ohma can also go limp to disperse damage similar to Xiao Lee.
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Bump.
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Bump.
