TLoZ Low Tier Revisions 2

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wizzrobes and Argorok have 6-B feats. This is consistent now. (Someone link the threads below plz). If correct, then no debate really need to be done and I can edit now, right?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dust_Collector/Argorok_roars_up_a_storm


and

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dust_Collector/Dancin'_Wizzrobes_create_storms

 

[The_Everlasting]

But like, isn't Argorok a late-game boss while Wizzrobe is still fodder?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Bump

 

[Dust_Collector]

I'm honestly fine if people don't want to use the Wizzrobe calc, I personally think it's not an outlier given the casual High 7-A to High 6-C feats done by the low tiers but I can understand why some people find it iffy.

In regards to Argorok that's most definitely not an outlier since he's a relatively strong character in the series and his feat would only scale to bosses like Twinrova and others comparable to her as opposed to scaling to pretty much everyone. I personally the mid end of the calc (Large Country level) is the one that should be used, although the Country level low end works fine too.

 

[TriforcePower1]

To be fair, even the high end is not that far-fetched. This the last boss before the High 5-A. But I still believe we should accept the mid end. About the wizzrobe calc, I'm okay with that, too

 

[Dark649]

I personally think it's not an outlier given the casual High 7-A to High 6-C feats done by the low tiers but I can understand why some people find it iffy.

The Majora Mask Bosses scaled from a High 6-C+ feat are not low tiers.

 

[TriforcePower1]

But they were done by simply existing

 

[Dark649]

Ok.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump. 6-B is really consistent. I just want one more admin agreement and I'll perform the upgrades (because it being an outlier flew out the window with Argorok's storm feat)

 

[TriforcePower1]

Wasn't Argorok's feat High 6-B?

 

[Dark649]

But like, isn't Argorok a late-game boss while Wizzrobe is still fodder?

Yes.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Okay, which end are we going to use for Argorok?

Low:0,75 (possibly Cal, kinda Dust Collector)

Mid:1,75 (me, kinda Dust Collector)

High:0

 

[Dust_Collector]

I'm fine with either the low end or mid end (But leaning towards the mid end).

We also still need to decide if the Wizzrobe feat is legit or not. Mid tier characters like Twinrova and Volvagia should be fine to upgrade to whatever we accept for Argorok, but that still leaves the question of whether or not we upgrade all the low tiers from High 7-A to 6-B.

 

[TriforcePower1]

What tier are exactly Wizzrobes with this feat? Low 6-B or 6-B?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Just gonna give this a quick bump.

@Triforce The Wizzrobes feat would be 6-B (If it gets accepted that is)

 

[TriforcePower1]

Has the calc been accepted?

 

[Dust_Collector]

It hasn't. People are split about if it's an outlier or not so as of now it hasn't been accepted.

 

[Dark649]

Darkanine recalced the feat at High 6-C, through.

 

[TriforcePower1]

If the feat truly was High 6-C, I'd be far than ok to accept it, little less if it's Low 6-B, but already 6-B seems an outlier

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I think I never did gave an opinion on this, right? I'm mostly neutral, but I can understand both sides.

While there are two feats, one is fodder and the other one is from the last boss before going against the main bad guys of the game.

Is true that Majora's bosses have "only" 6-C feats, but this are extremely casual (coffstillfeeltheyshouldscaletothegiantscoff).

The bomb feats might show consistency... But they are all over the place as well. Bombs in Ocarina are 7-C, while bombs in Phantom Hourglass have 7-A stuff.

Both sides can be argued, so I will just go with major-a-ity. ovo

 

[TriforcePower1]

First we need to see if the calcs get accepted (I want Link vs Marth to be actually possible)