Timeline question

[Orange]

Lets say we have universes [space times] in one timeline, but each one of those universes have their own timelines, and the timeline that they occupy has it's own timelines too
How we would rate such structures

 

[Planck69]

Depending on the context, 2-C or Low 1-C.

 

[Orange]

Hmm I see well I can go in more details:
Let's say we have 20 universes, each universe is considered/is a timeline, these universe's resides in a structure that's also a timeline [it's referred to as a multiverse, let's call it megatimeline]. Each universe[timeline] has countless alternative versions of it, and the whole mega timeline has also countless alternative versions of itself, lets call this structure omega.
Would omega still be 2-C?

 

[Planck69]

Just say Dragon Ball :/

Anyway, personally I think the megatimeline could qualify for Low 1-C. You can check with others about it. I'm going to bed.

 

[Orange]

No, dragonball doesn't call it's universes timelines last time I remember tbh, but you gave me a good idea, low 1-C mister popo here we go-
But thanks for answering

 

[Orange]

Wait, you said megs mega timelines could qualify for low 1-C, wouldn't Omega be 1-C?

 

[Planck69]

No? Omega would just be very high into 5-D Low 1-C.

 

[Orange]

So above baseline low 1-C? [If it even exists]

 

[Teezar]

Lets say we have universes [space times] in one timeline, but each one of those universes have their own timelines, and the timeline that they occupy has it's own timelines too
How we would rate such structures

So like an innumerable number of 4D constructs?

Hmm I see well I can go in more details:
Let's say we have 20 universes, each universe is considered/is a timeline, these universe's resides in a structure that's also a timeline [it's referred to as a multiverse, let's call it megatimeline]. Each universe[timeline] has countless alternative versions of it, and the whole mega timeline has also countless alternative versions of itself, lets call this structure omega.
Would omega still be 2-C?

This is too much for me.

 

[Orange]

So like an innumerable number of 4D constructs?

This is too much for me.

Your moral brain cannot even phantom this

 

[Teezar]

Sadly.

 

[Orange]

So like an innumerable number of 4D constructs?

This is too much for me.

Your moral brain cannot even phantom this

 

[Orange]

I said it three times
I swear it was a mistake

 

[Orange]

No, scratch it
I completely meant it

 

[Teezar]

No problem.

 

[Sus]

this is pretty much low 1C

 

[Planck69]

So above baseline low 1-C? [If it even exists]

Yes, since it's just countless Low 1-C structures together. Assuming the megatimelimes are Low 1-C.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Just say Dragon Ball :/

after that Dragon Ball thread, I get the feeling that people are just confusion on what qualifies as an "hypertimeline" or not. The first example that comes into my mind is a FEH that was recently made.

How do we know when an hypertimeline is just a bigger tier 2 construct (like it was being argued with Dragon Ball) and when it's Low 1-C? I think that should get some clarification

dragonball doesn't call it's universes timelines last time I remember tbh

Dragon Ball Heroes called Universe 7 a timeline.

 

[Orange]

after that Dragon Ball thread, I get the feeling that people are just confusion on what qualifies as an "hypertimeline" or not. The first example that comes into my mind is a FEH that was recently made.

How do we know when an hypertimeline is just a bigger tier 2 construct (like it was being argued with Dragon Ball) and when it's Low 1-C? I think that should get some clarification

Dragon Ball Heroes called Universe 7 a timeline.

Wait!? It did?? That's some good news :>

Yes, since it's just countless Low 1-C structures together. Assuming the megatimelimes are Low 1-C.

Oh I see I see, tho there is one last question , if this countless low 1-C structures held in a space-time/timeline, would it still be low 1-C?

 

[Planck69]

after that Dragon Ball thread, I get the feeling that people are just confusion on what qualifies as an "hypertimeline" or not. The first example that comes into my mind is a FEH that was recently made.

How do we know when an hypertimeline is just a bigger tier 2 construct (like it was being argued with Dragon Ball) and when it's Low 1-C? I think that should get some clarification

A timeline which is overarching in respect to 4-dimensional space-time continuums.

Basically, the universes are just objects and moving through time in the wider timeline is independent of the universes and follows a flow of time that treats the universes the way our timeline treats planets or stars.

Personally I think that the timelines in Dragon Ball count. Oh well.

 

[Orange]

Tho I wonder, if countless low 1-C structures are contained withing a space time, and that space time is also contained with a space time too
Would the whole thing just be low 1-C?

 

[Sus]

Tho I wonder, if countless low 1-C structures are contained withing a space time, and that space time is also contained with a space time too
Would the whole thing just be low 1-C?

low 1C is basically 5D and 6D structures, if the structure you're talking about is not 7D it can't enter 1C

 

[Orange]

low 1C is basically 5D and 6D structures, if the structure you're talking about is not 7D it can't enter 1C

I don't quite understand, can you elaborate more?
I have another question
If a space contains countless low 1-C structures and presents them as 3D objects, hoe would we rate such space

 

[Sus]

I don't quite understand, can you elaborate more?

the simplest thing i can say, 5D has uncountable infinite 4D "snapshots", 6D has uncountable infinite 5D snapshots, and so on, to be qualified for 1C (7D minimum) its should be infinitly superior to 6D structures or contain uncountable infinite snapshots from the previous dimension

infinite ^ infinite 5D = 6D

infinite ^ infinite 6D = 7D

 

[Planck69]

Tho I wonder, if countless low 1-C structures are contained withing a space time, and that space time is also contained with a space time too
Would the whole thing just be low 1-C?

If you mean repeating the process with a higher timeline then the overarching structure would be 6-D and the one overarching those would be 1-C.

 

[Sus]

I don't quite understand, can you elaborate more?
I have another question
If a space contains countless low 1-C structures and presents them as 3D objects, hoe would we rate such space

basically, if the cosmology contains infinite ^ infinite 6D structures then it's baseline 1C

 

[Planck69]

Infinite^Infinite doesn't equate to uncountably infinite last I checked.

 

[Orange]

If you mean repeating the process with a higher timeline then the overarching structure would be 6-D and the one overarching those would be 1-C.

Exactly yes, thank you

basically, if the cosmology contains infinite ^ infinite 6D structures then it's baseline 1C

Thank you both
Last question I swear [I'm sorry] if all of these is also contained in a space time, how would we rate the it?

 

[Sus]

Infinite^Infinite doesn't equate to uncountably infinite last I checked.

why? it's stated that the wiki accept the power set of countable infinity as uncountable infinity

 

[Planck69]

Exactly yes, thank you
Thank you both
Last question I swear [I'm sorry] if all of these is also contained in a space time, how would we rate the it?

It's the same logic as before.

 

[Sus]

Exactly yes, thank you
Thank you both
Last question I swear [I'm sorry] if all of these is also contained in a space time, how would we rate the it?

he answered you

If you mean repeating the process with a higher timeline then the overarching structure would be 6-D and the one overarching those would be 1-C.

 

[Planck69]

why? it's stated that the wiki accept the power set of countable infinity as uncountable infinity

Hmmm. Can you point me to that page?

 

[Orange]

Infinite^Infinite doesn't equate to uncountably infinite last I checked.

It should be something like infinite ^infinite ^infinite......

 

[Orange]

Oh thanks, even if they are all contaminated in a space time it would still just be 1C?
[Tho, presenting low 1-C structure as 3D objects would mean the space is 1-C right?]

 

[Sus]

Hmmm. Can you point me to that page?

After ℵ0, comes the smallest uncountable cardinal "number: ℵ1, which is itself indexed by the ordinal number ω1, the set of all countable ordinal numbers. For the purposes of the Tiering System, it is accepted as an Axiom that ℵ1 is the cardinality of the set of all real numbers, and thus equal to the power set of ℵ0, and the same principle is generalized unto any higher cardinal number."

from the tiering system explanation page
can you explain correctly?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

I think Anasu ninja'd me, but I wanted to ask if a space that contained Dragon Ball's timelines (basically an "hypertimeline",I just use Dragon Ball as an example) as mere 3-D objects would qualify for an higher tier

 

[Sus]

I think Anasu ninja'd me, but I wanted to ask if a space that contained Dragon Ball's timelines (basically an "hypertimeline",I just use Dragon Ball as an example) as mere 3-D objects would qualify for an higher tier

there's many threads about DB cosmology, afaik it's not accepted as 5D

 

[Orange]

I need to stop asking questions, but this is the last hopefully
Let's say we have a space-time, it contains an countless numbers of now 1-C structure , it also contains a space time that also contains countless low 1-C structure and prenstes them as mere 3-D objects
How we would rate this space time?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

there's many threads about DB cosmology, afaik it's not accepted as 5D

That is irrelevant to the main point of my question tho

 

[Sus]

That is irrelevant to the main point of my question tho

i didn't understand then, please explain