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The argument is that when someone travels to the past they create a new timeline instead of actually affecting the one in front of them. That's how MCU got it and the reason this one is a thing.
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MCU isn't getting it either. MCU Time Travel is bullshit and contradicts itself in the span of one film.KnightOfSunlight said:Wait, did the MCU already get this?
For the same reasons as what's being brought up here?
I think we should still do thisAntvasima said:Let's wait for the other staff members who support this first. It would be disrespectful to do otherwise.
No, because time traveling isn't an AP feat. It's a disruption in space-time that creates a new timeline, not the character's raw power.DragonEmperor23 said:Technically, wouldn't this make DB characters Low 2-C for creating timelines through time travel?
Yes.Wokistan said:We currently have 2 threads open for the exact same issue and should probably consolidate them
Wokistan said:Here to say that Sword Logic is a really bad equivalence
Sword Logic is a thing because of the influence of The Darkness, a "character" that's powerful enough to underpin all of everything. The Darkness describes itself as this overarching concept's purest form, with the Sword Logic being some offshoot of The Darkness much like the rest of the ascendant plane. It's that way by the influence of a character, and even if it wasn't the actual powers it gives people are really pronounced and notable.
The other thing is that people can take Sword Logic into spaces that it does not exist and express it, it's also got an internal component to it. The PC somehow wields Sword Logic in a Vex space which shouldn't really have such a thing that can be used against them to make all Quria's powers just not work on it and annihilate the mind. MCU and Dragon Ball dudes can't just force their TPI into existence in some other space.
The lacking of souls isn't a good comparison either. A soul's a thing tied to the individual. It is their characteristic to have or not to have. A timeline really isn't. Its a thing in which they participate, not really their characteristic so much as something that will shape their existence for them.
Also wouldn't the multiverse theories and such be covered under the whole "neutral universe" thing?