Time for a wild West showdown!

[Stalker_Maggot]

Hol Horse vs Arthur Morga

Arthur has his full arsenal

Speed equalized

Both have prior knowledge

Hol Horse:

Arthur Morga:

Inconclusive:

 

[The_Smashor]

Hol Horse just shoots. He's quicker on the draw since Thinking and having a gun magically in your hand > actually drawing a gun. And Hol Horse won't miss unless Morgan does a sudden unexpected movement.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

So are you voting for Hol Horse?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yes

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Kk

1 for Hol

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hol's gun and bullets are also invisible so...

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

O

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Arthur deadeyes.

 

[The_Smashor]

Thinking >>>> Drawing

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Arthur can deadeye before drawing.

 

[The_Smashor]

Hol Horse thinks and shoots first.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Arthur has analytical prediction and extremely high pain tolerance, so unless he shoots for the heart or head Arthur can still take it.

 

[Redite250]

Arthur has analytical prediction and extremely high pain tolerance, so unless he shoots for the heart or head Arthur can still take it.

Wouldn't Hol Horse one-shot cause of Building level AP?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

If it's a stomp give Arthur his biggest advantage. Preperation time. 1 hour. Although, I'll argue for Arthur later regardless

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I mean no matter what prep he gets how much is it going to help against attacks that he cant see, from a weapon he cant see, that can be controlled to go around barricades, that can oneshot him?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Arthur's prediction will be his winning grace here, along with his deadeye

Deadeye has shown multiple time to activate passively whenever Arthur is in a danger he himself did not see coming, doesn't see at all, and when he did not activate Deadeye of his own free will. And he always goes for the shot when this happens.

Something else everyone seems to forget is that when he is sensing the area, time is slowed down in a similar fashion to his Deadeye, allowing him to scout the area and any possible danger coming his way.

A mixture of both gives him the win here. Deadeye activating instantly when he's in a danger he isn't aware off will allow him to quickly deliever a shot to the vitals.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Arthur FRA

 

[The_Smashor]

Alright. That's an inconclusive at best, since Emeror's bullet would hit Arthur before Arthur's bullet would hit Hol.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Speed is equal though.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Not really. Analytical Prediction allows him to sense something is wrong and dodge it, especially with his perception time slowed down. He has enhanced senses, so he'll be able to pick up something.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How is he going to dodge something that he not only cannot see, but ca move to hit him anyways even if he dodges?

 

[GojiBoyForever]

By killing Mostly Mustang before the bullet reached him.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I think I explained that already, weekly. I see two ways for this fight to go.

1:

Deadeye activates before Hol shoots his bullet. We have mostly seen Deadeye activate passively before the opponent has shot the bullet, or even pulled their gun out. If Deadeye activates before this, Arthur shoots his own and wins. Time is slowed down, and Arthur's gun hits a vital.

2:

Same scenario, but Deadeye activates when the gun is pulled or the bullet is shot. In this scenario, it's an inconclusive, because Arthur's bullet will hit Hol first, but he'll eventually be caught by Hol's bullet. Unless the bullet disappears when Hol is killed, in which case, Arthur wins in both scenario's.

 

[The_Smashor]

Speed Equal. If Hol fires first, then Hol will hit first.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

....

I think you're forgetting time is slowed from Deadeye and his enhanced senses

Anyway, I think Arthur wins this 6/10. But I'll vote inconclusive for my reasons above.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Time isnt actually slowed though, thats just heightened preception and its slowr than Hol just needing to think to fire Emperor versus Arthur needing to actually pull out his gun and fire it

 

[The_Smashor]

And Hol usually fires several bullets at once, espesially if he's the only one attacking (Like when he was working with Boingo)

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Hol Horse thinks and shoots FRA

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

https://imgur.com/a/F2joirv

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You might want to make a CRT to give him time manip because the current profile says its perception ehnancement

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Yeah I done it sometimes where I'm in Dead Eye and die and he fires super ******* fast.

 

[The_Smashor]

@Zenkai

That's a tutorial. That's not canon.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

How is it not canon?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Can you prove it isn't canon and that's it's just perception enhancement?

You do realize tutorials tell you what you have to do and how things work, right? It's specifically stated in every read dead forum and the game itself to be time slow

 

[The_Smashor]

They tell you game mechanics.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Stated in RDR1

https://imgur.com/a/KFtshza

Jack learned Dead Eye at an earlier age than John and Arthur as well. Is it still game mechanics?

 

[The_Smashor]

What are you talking about? That image is just another tutorial explaining a game mechanic. It literally dosn't say what you put there.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

You csnt learn game mechanics.

 

[The_Smashor]

Learning a move in a game and the game explaining that move to the player is extremely different.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

@Smashor

The link was for another statement in RDR. Jack is different.

Anyway, I made a thread for it. You can say it's "game mechanics" there, but you'll have to prove it of course.