Things that need to be changed for Nasuverse

[1Nairove]

RYOGI SHIKI AND SHIKI TOHNO REGEN NEG
First of all, this is where I want to talk and touch on, and I seriously looked to see if there is a revision of tsukihime, which is ridiculous, but it is ridiculous that ryogi shiki has the same contextual regen neg as shiki tohno and ryogi shiki has mid godly and shiki tohno has high godly neg so ryogi needs to be at least high godly neg (as mentioned contexte enemy still won't regen even after conceptual regen)

These are exactly, the contexts I'm talking about

You can personally review two profiles on the site

MISSING HAXS OF SOME FATE GODS
There are missing haxes in the profiles of some divine spirits and gods these characters are ishtar and ereshkigal and different gods that I can't think of right now, these are the haxes that these gods should have I think:

High Godly and Immortality type 8 Neg : ( Gods can kill each other permanently)

High Godly Regen : (The gods can revive at any time by destroying their souls, because for them it is just like destroying a single cell in their body)

I would like to point out that these have already been accepted

Extra Acausality Type 4 and HDE:
Divine spirits currently do not exist in the human world they exist in a higher dimensional place called the reverse side of the world which is a world built on laws gods follow which is different from laws humans follow which is its practically impossible for humans and gods to coexist due to the difference in laws, additional gods laws don't include the laws of physics before heaven and earth was separated laws of physics was never a thing it only came to exist when gods moved to the reverse side of the world and came to be one of the laws humans follow that is different from the gods
(NOTE: I'm not sure about Aca4 and HDE, so I want wise Nasuverse fans to give their opinion)
(NOTE2: Regarding missing hax profiles, if this is accepted I request you to specify all characters that should be added to your profile in this thread)

Agree : Artorimachi_Meteoraft, Tdjwo, Maxeez, Barbar01, LordGriffin1000, RaveeCPN (Neutral on High-Godly), Larssx, CrimsonStarFallen
Disagree :
Neutral :

 

[Tdjwo]

Shiki tohno's regen neg just got updated. SHiki ryougi probably got forgotten but yeah, she should have at least godly regen.
I agree with everything here.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Agree fra

 

[Paul_Frank]

Ryougi's regen neg being updated to match Tohno's makes sense yes, although another thing to mention is that Arcueid and thus all other Types, should get high godly regeneration since their regen comes from scaling to Arc whose regen comes from regenerating from MEoDP

The immortality neg and stuff for gods was already accepted so that's fine yes

Gods also already have HDE, as for Acausality Type 4 uhh, I guess? Maybe?

 

[1Nairove]

Ryougi's regen neg being updated to match Tohno's makes sense yes, although another thing to mention is that Arcueid and thus all other Types, should get high godly regeneration since their regen comes from scaling to Arc whose regen comes from regenerating from MEoDP

The immortality neg and stuff for gods was already accepted so that's fine yes

Gods also already have HDE, as for Acausality Type 4 uhh, I guess? Maybe?

For Gods and divine souls who don't have HDE, could these be in Gods like ishtar and ereshkigal? and what exactly do you think of aca4?

 

[Paul_Frank]

The actual Eresh and Ishtar would have them, but when they're in a vessel like we see those two in, they probably aren't

My exact thoughts on aca4 is that idk. It doesn't exactly mention different causality or anything, but at the same time, there are characters who have gotten it purely for existing outside of fate and stuff so maybe

 

[Tarang123]

I'm a little confused by the High Godly stuff, particularly this part:

High Godly Regen : (The gods can revive at any time by destroying their souls, because for them it is just like destroying a single cell in their body)

This sounds like mid-godly to me

 

[1Nairove]

I'm a little confused by the High Godly stuff, particularly this part:

This sounds like mid-godly to me

This is the part that the site accepts and this therad has also been discussed

 

[1Nairove]

The actual Eresh and Ishtar would have them, but when they're in a vessel like we see those two in, they probably aren't

My exact thoughts on aca4 is that idk. It doesn't exactly mention different causality or anything, but at the same time, there are characters who have gotten it purely for existing outside of fate and stuff so maybe

Then it can be treated as "possibly", so should I add you to the agree section?

 

[Barbar01]

Agree

 

[Maxeez]

Agreed with everything except for something that should be specified which is the high godly regen and immortality type 8 : it should normally only apply to Ishtar and Eresh when in their goddess version, which is the one residing in a higher dimension, because else they are just pseudo servants in a vessel.

 

[Maxeez]

Oh and, before I forget, high godly regen, type 4 acausality and HDE should also be added to beings like Amatarerasu on Tamamo's profile and to Saver.

 

[1Nairove]

Oh and, before I forget, high godly regen, type 4 acausality and HDE should also be added to beings like Amatarerasu on Tamamo's profile and to Saver.

yes a few of the missing profiles

 

[RaveeCPN]

High Godly Regen : (The gods can revive at any time by destroying their souls, because for them it is just like destroying a single cell in their body)

I agree with Tarang. I think this should be MG instead of HG

Other than that I agree with everything else in the OP

 

[1Nairove]

This is the part that the site accepts and this therad has also been discussed

I said here that this has already been accepted

I agree with Tarang. I think this should be MG instead of HG

Other than that I agree with everything else in the OP

 

[RaveeCPN]

I said here that this has already been accepted

mhm, nvm then

I'll stay neutral on HG part

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

But doesn’t HG already exist in Nasuverse because Tohno has HG negation

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yes, it's already HG since it includes the concept and info and stuff

 

[1Nairove]

bump

 

[Maxeez]

bump;

You have to wait at least 8h before bumping, just saying

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Since the HG regeneration/immortality negation stuff was already accepted, I'm fine with those, and I think Acausality Type 4 is ok but I'm not sure on Higher Dimensional Existance.

 

[1Nairove]

Since the HG regeneration/immortality negation stuff was already accepted, I'm fine with those, and I think Acausality Type 4 is ok but I'm not sure on Higher Dimensional Existance.

The HDE Subject is already in the gods, there are profiles of characters such as zeus, aphrodite should only be added to the missing profiles

 

[LordGriffin1000]

The HDE Subject is already in the gods, there are profiles of characters such as zeus, aphrodite should only be added to the missing profiles

If that's the case, I guess it's fine.

 

[1Nairove]

Since the HG regeneration/immortality negation stuff was already accepted, I'm fine with those, and I think Acausality Type 4 is ok but I'm not sure on Higher Dimensional Existance.

By the way, since this thread is not tier 1, how many moderators or admins can accept it?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

By the way, since this thread is not tier 1, how many moderators or admins can accept it?

2 at least. So you need one more.

 

[Larssx]

Looks good.

 

[Tarang123]

This is the part that the site accepts and this therad has also been discussed

No offense, but do you see how long that thread is? Like, even the OP would take way too long to read. Could you just put like a short explanation for why this is actually High Godly? Assuming that this will be the justification used on the profiles, I think this is absolutely necessary as otherwise you'd just get dozens of revisions trying to change it.

 

[Larssx]

No offense, but do you see how long that thread is? Like, even the OP would take way too long to read. Could you just put like a short explanation for why this is actually High Godly? Assuming that this will be the justification used on the profiles, I think this is absolutely necessary as otherwise you'd just get dozens of revisions trying to change it.

I guess the gods survive despite their concept being erased.

 

[1Nairove]

No offense, but do you see how long that thread is? Like, even the OP would take way too long to read. Could you just put like a short explanation for why this is actually High Godly? Assuming that this will be the justification used on the profiles, I think this is absolutely necessary as otherwise you'd just get dozens of revisions trying to change it.

So the purpose of this thread is to complete the missing profiles, but to summarize for you, and as paul_frank points out above, the spirits of the gods are a kind of concept, and they can be renewed if these concepts are erased

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Agreed. Thanks for pointing these out; all the stuff I need to add went into locked profiles, so I had to pre plan all my edits, which was a pain and why it's taken me so long to add stuff. If someone is adding some of the more minor stuff, it's a HUGE help.

 

[Tarang123]

I guess the gods survive despite their concept being erased.

It doesn't say concept, though?? It says their souls are erased. That isn't High Godly. You see where the issue comes in?

 

[Tarang123]

So the purpose of this thread is to complete the missing profiles, but to summarize for you, and as paul_frank points out above, the spirits of the gods are a kind of concept, and they can be renewed if these concepts are erased

That should be added to the explanation in the OP. What's currently there is not enough

 

[1Nairove]

It doesn't say concept, though?? It says their souls are erased. That isn't High Godly. You see where the issue comes in?

I didn't specify that it was a concept directly, because that's not the purpose of this thread, it's something related to this universe

 

[RaveeCPN]

It doesn't say concept, though?? It says their souls are erased. That isn't High Godly. You see where the issue comes in?

I remember in the accepted thread Crimson said that the souls of the Gods were conceptual

 

[John985]

It’s in the Nasuverse global hax revision. That the soul in nasuverse contain the mind, info and concept.

Edit: the thread in question.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Its already accepted that souls contain someone's concept, and all the information related to their existence, that's why it's high godly

 

[1Nairove]

That should be added to the explanation in the OP. What's currently there is not enough

I don't feel the need to add it because this has been accepted anyway as I said what is accepted is just to add it to the missing profiles, but thank you for your opinion

 

[Tarang123]

I don't feel the need to add it because this has been accepted anyway as I said what is accepted is just to add it to the missing profiles, but thank you for your opinion

It doesn't matter if it's been accepted. If this is the justification used on the profiles, then it needs to be changed so that it's actually clear why this qualifies for High Godly and not Low Godly. The fact that we're even having this discussion proves this.

 

[Larssx]

It doesn't say concept, though?? It says their souls are erased. That isn't High Godly. You see where the issue comes in?

Spirits of the gods is the concept. There's nothing wrong with high godly as they survived despite their concept being erased out after all.

 

[1Nairove]

It doesn't matter if it's been accepted. If this is the justification used on the profiles, then it needs to be changed so that it's actually clear why this qualifies for High Godly and not Low Godly. The fact that we're even having this discussion proves this.

So you want us to specify this to make the profiles more descriptive? yes it is true because nasuverse may be perceived as MG at first by someone who does not know about it I will suggest in this