The wait for Wano upgrades: is it needed?

[Eseseso]

So I've heard many, many times that VSBW is waiting until the end of the Wano arc to upgrade Luffy and the other OP characters.

I heavily disagree with this.

The feats shown by many now-top tiers are consistent enough so that they should IMO be already upgraded.

Besides, it's going to be another 2 acts (and thus another 2 years) before the Wano arc ends, and by that time we'll have to go back and look everything over again.

Anyone else for this?

 

[DiedrichYagami]

I'm neutral on this. Tbh I prefer waiting to see how much Wano is going to last until settle if we need to wait till the end.

 

[Eminiteable]

If the act ends we can look at this, it was just to avoid constant revisions every chapter like what was happening before hand.

 

[LordGinSama]

You can wait tbh.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Besides, it's going to be another 2 acts (and thus another 2 years) before the Wano arc ends, and by that time we'll have to go back and look everything over again.

Or yall could just make a blog with all feats, anyways, while I can see why they need to be upgraded, since, others ongoing series also have upgrades despite the arc not ending, I can understand people who can wait

 

[RazumaHiroki]

It's honestly understandable, considering that all these feats slowly increasing the consistency of 6-B High Tiers and FTL One piece, etc etc.

But, you are misunderstanding the reason why we are waiting. One piece generally has a large scaling chain, for example; who scales to Kaido? who scales to Luffy, who scales to Roof piece Zoro. As well as many hyped fights that potentially could effect the scaling chain as well, it'd also be disadvantageous for us to have every day a new revision or CTR when we could just put everything into one big revision.

We are waiting precisely because we want to save us from all the trouble, while saving all these new feats in a blog/sandbox (also we have a thread for that, for specifically talking about feats and resistances). I do agree with the High tiers to upgrade them already, but regarding the others, you need a little more patience.

 

[RazumaHiroki]

It took us literally more than 4 months to fix the Dressrosa Revision and the Scaling chain... (That thread reached more than 9 pages too).

So have a little patience. Everything will pay off in the end.

 

[Dr.Fix]

I mean we decided to wait to keep the weekly revisions down, but that hasn't worked out so well ¯\(ツ)/¯ There are plenty of feats from Wano already on the profiles from any number of CRTs. So for that reason keeping up the pretense of waiting is a bit like keeping the barn doors locked when the cattle have already left.

 

[Eseseso]

How about we put it to a vote?

 

[StrawHatArslan]

yea we should, but first we need the god tier thread to wrap up, we dont know if its gonna be Low 6-B or 6-B

 

[KingTempest]

We've already voted a while ago.

We're waiting to do verse wide revisions. Small ability additions are different.

The only thing people want to do is scale people to god tiers and get high tiers or faster speed. Nothing important.

It's irrelevant.

 

[Damage3245]

Besides, it's going to be another 2 acts (and thus another 2 years)

There's no proof of that yet.

 

[Eminiteable]

There's no proof of that yet.

If anything it feels like it's ending this act.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Anyway i vote we wait, and unless there are some other bad guys somewhere else who will prolong the series the series ends after kaido and BB are dead or captured, and after this battle the four poneglyphs becomes luffy's own assuming he wins, and then he can reach the laugh tale finally

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Yeah plus the values for god tiers are being changed to Low 6-B or 6-B anyway, and are undergoing them atm so it would be wise to wait then

 

[KingTempest]

The values have nothing at all to do with the scaling

 

[StrawHatArslan]

The values have nothing at all to do with the scaling

That's where they will scale to what?

The High 6-C+ is off the same calc, which is being changed to Low 6-B or 6-B, the same scaling meta is being used anyway for either of those 2 values

 

[KingTempest]

That's where they will scale to what?

The High 6-C+ is off the same calc, which is being changed to Low 6-B or 6-B, the same scaling meta is being used anyway for either of those 2 values

We scale them to whatever they scale to now, and when the CRT is changed, then they'll scale them to that value.

Half the people in Wano don't even scale to that value so idky it's so important.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

We scale them to whatever they scale to now, and when the CRT is changed, then they'll scale them to that value.

Half the people in Wano don't even scale to that value so idky it's so important.

im referring to the god tiers, and since the god tiers are involved in wano scaling, via luffy and zoro scaling to kaido, so thats why i said we gotta wait for this first regardless

 

[KingTempest]

im referring to the god tiers, and since the god tiers are involved in wano scaling, via luffy and zoro scaling to kaido, so thats why i said we gotta wait for this first regardless

Wano scaling.

Not Wano tiering.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Wano scaling.

Not Wano tiering.

Tiering needs to be done before does it not?

 

[KingTempest]

Tiering needs to be done before does it not?

Your argument would work if they didn't have tiers.

We have tiers accepted on the profiles.

If we were to work on the scaling, again, we would put them at the tiers that are currently accepted, and then after any CRT goes through to change the tiers, we would change them.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Your argument would work if they didn't have tiers.

We have tiers accepted on the profiles.

If we were to work on the scaling, again, we would put them at the tiers that are currently accepted, and then after any CRT goes through to change the tiers, we would change them.

Oh okay alright, well honestly im pretty sure that the earthquake thread will be done before that anyway.

 

[Dr.Fix]

We're waiting to do verse wide revisions. Small ability additions are different.

That is technically not true. In fact Luffy's last key should be deleted right now. Also Drake/Apo action has been implemented too soon. Those are just off the op of my head.
^^Might now more about the many profiles which jumped the gun. Not really interested in going into too much detail here and now.

Proposition.

While I agree that with the OP for reasons already given I do think there should be an order to this

1. First the Earthquake calc needs to fin.
   1. Then characters get adjusted accordingly.
2. Then the Dressrosa calc needs approval
   1. Then those characters get adjusted accordingly.
3. Then when those outstanding threads have been completed Wano might actually be over and we can address changes based on feats shown and a better understanding of the verse.

 

[KingTempest]

That is technically not true. In fact Luffy's last key should be deleted right now.

His last key is a bunch of "higher than before"s.
Completely harmless.

Also Drake/Apo action has been implemented too soon. Those are just off the op of my head.

Drake and Apoo are 2 characters that don't scale to anyone and they had dogshit justifications.

While I agree that with the OP for reasons already given

You're trying to justify starting CRTs to change dozens of character's speed and AP ratings because we have a few profiles that scale to nobody that do follow them?

We're talking about the several new god tiers, the tobiroppo scaling (they don't even have profiles yet), Yamato scaling, etc.
Apoo and X Drake are harmless.

 

[Dr.Fix]

His last key is a bunch of "higher than before"s.

Exactly, its dog$hit.

 

[KingTempest]

We just gon delete it cause it's bad?

It's correct, Luffy is "stronger than before".

We can just wait

 

[Dr.Fix]

Drake and Apoo are 2 characters that don't scale to anyone and they had dogshit justifications.

You are entittled to your opinion, however wrong it is.

 

[KingTempest]

You are entittled to your opinion, however wrong it is.

Agreed

 

[Darkvie123]

I respectfully heavily disagree i think waiting until Wano ends would be perfect to have a good view for the characters in Wano rn. If we change all the time every act a thread is gonna confuse us so im voting to better wait until Wano ends to have a good Wano revision in the end

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

If anything it feels like it's ending this act.

At most we're probably getting an act of epilogue stuff which probably won't have any fighting anyways