The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

There is a Washington DC but there is no Washington marvel

 

[Antvasima]

Heh.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Also it’s kinda scary that the original creator of marvel was going to ride the Hindinberg but thankfully didn’t

 

[ShionAH]

I need help with these 2 matches. Here and Here

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Ultimate Thor matchup

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Ultimate Thor matchup

Bump. Also, cool new calc by @Taser_Lad:

Marvel Comics: The Defenders get hit by an Explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[LordTracer]

Bump. Also, cool new calc by @Taser_Lad:

Marvel Comics: The Defenders get hit by an Explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

Shouldn’t it also calc how much of the explosion they took?

 

[Antvasima]

Shouldn’t it also calc how much of the explosion they took?

I also think so.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Shouldn’t it also calc how much of the explosion they took?

I also think so.

I pointed it out and M3X said this

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. The calculation needs to be redone then.

 

[Recap_]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-comics-scarlet-witch-hom-downgrade.148155/

 

[Excellence616]

Hulk Vol 5 #11

 

[Recap_]

Bor vs Thanos

 

[ShionAH]

Bor vs Thanos

Drax can clap both

 

[Excellence616]

A Wonder Man Lifting Strength Upgrade

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I realized something guys, we have profiles for absorbing man yet we don't have one for the OG himself, We must make it so he can absorb all versions of himself.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Absorbing man being smart (actually if i was him, i would have slowly absorbed sentries power instead of all at once. That's how you win)

 

[LordTracer]

I realized something guys, we have profiles for absorbing man yet we don't have one for the OG himself, We must make it so he can absorb all versions of himself.

Feel free to make it yourself.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Feel free to make it yourself.

i'm good but thank you tracer

it's always marvel giving the most OP powers to the dumbest villains most of the time tbh i don't see anything wrong that.

 

[Antvasima]

If they are dumb (Absorbing Man), or very overconfident (Dormammu) that means that they can be outsmarted.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

facts that's because marvel would lose money and fans if they kept on giving the smart villains OP powers and have them defeat the heroes everyday.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

GGRRRRRRRAHHH translates to No more frisbees (Honestly if it wasn't for thor i think the heroes would lose considering how OP asgardians are)

 

[Vasco]

I saw Namor 3-C key comes from him being amped by the phoenix, I thought i heard a rule about one time amps being used cause this amp only lasted 2 issues, shouldn't it be removed or not necessarily?

 

[Antvasima]

I saw Namor 3-C key comes from him being amped by the phoenix, I thought i heard a rule about one time amps being used cause this amp only lasted 2 issues, shouldn't it be removed or not necessarily?

I think that seems reasonable, yes.

What about the other Phoenix Five?

 

[Vasco]

What about the other Phoenix Five?

I will check on them now, just saw Namor's alone.

 

[LordTracer]

I saw Namor 3-C key comes from him being amped by the phoenix, I thought i heard a rule about one time amps being used cause this amp only lasted 2 issues, shouldn't it be removed or not necessarily?

Short-lived amps can be included if they’re extremely relevant to an event, like the Phoenix Five are.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

This is one of my favorite scenes in marvel Ant. Just goes to demonstrate how strong a skyfather is though i believe hulk here had something to do with his loved ones.

I mean this is the reason why we needed odin and thors help against the serpent and other villains.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Zeus didn't just beat Hulk up and throw him out of Olympus, he actually tortured the poor bastard afterwards, and the Hulk had good intentions to help his family, and fought hard to help save Zeus and the rest of reality from Mikaboshi right previously.

Yes, the Hulk should just have asked nicely, not stormed into Zeus' house to make demands, but the torture part still definitely made Zeus a much worse bad guy in that story.

 

[Antvasima]

Regardless, just some months ago the Hulk was shown to somehow be capable of fighting with Odinforce Thor, so Marvel Comics scaling is all over the place as usual.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Regardless, just some months ago the Hulk was shown to somehow be capable of fighting with Odinforce Thor, so Marvel Comics scaling is all over the place as usual.

this seems inconsistent that i'd actually ignore that.

Well, Zeus didn't just beat Hulk up and throw him out of Olympus, he actually tortured the poor bastard afterwards, and the Hulk had good intentions to help his family, and fought hard to help save Zeus and the rest of reality from Mikaboshi right previously.

Yes, the Hulk should just have asked nicely, not stormed into Zeus' house to make demands, but the torture part still definitely made Zeus a much worse bad guy in that story.

that is both true and very sad but i also meant this establishes that unless the avengers get assistance from another skyfather tier character or have prep and knowledge. They don't stand a chance. (i mean if zeus easily beats hulk it's not difficult to imagine what would happen if the other avengers tried attacking him) There's a reason ant why the skyfathers have their own tier and name to go with it.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

tiers according to marvel not vsbw (don't confuse this please)

 

[Vasco]

Magik and Colossus 3-C is also based on being a phoenix force host.
Emma Frost and Scott summers 3-C and 2-C key are also based off being phoenix's force host.

Since these are one time amps I believe they should be removed, these keys didn't serve any major moments in marvel.

 

[Vasco]

Short-lived amps can be included if they’re extremely relevant to an event, like the Phoenix Five are.

But they didn't really do anything to affect the marvel cosmology or play that much of an important role except Dark phoenix Scott summers.

 

[LordTracer]

Magik and Colossus 3-C is also based on being a phoenix force host.
Emma Frost and Scott summers 3-C and 2-C key are also based off being phoenix's force host.

Since these are one time amps I believe they should be removed, these keys didn't serve any major moments in marvel.

… they’re literally the main antagonists of the AvX event.

 

[Antvasima]

Magik and Colossus 3-C is also based on being a phoenix force host.
Emma Frost and Scott summers 3-C and 2-C key are also based off being phoenix's force host.

Since these are one time amps I believe they should be removed, these keys didn't serve any major moments in marvel.

I think that also seems uncontroversial to apply.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Also like how symbolic hulk was after the Zeus fight

the marvel writers were referencing Prometheus but hulk is Prometheus here and herc is well herc

 

[Antvasima]

… they’re literally the main antagonists of the AvX event.

Well, for how many issues did they have those amplifications? It seems outdated to keep them around unless they fulfill our minimum standards.

 

[Antvasima]

Also like how symbolic hulk was after the Zeus fight

the marvel writers were referencing Prometheus but hulk is Prometheus here and herc is well herc

Yes.

 

[Vasco]

… they’re literally the main antagonists of the AvX event.

The phoenix is not them, but Dark phoenix force Scott summers deserves to stay.

 

[LordTracer]

Well, for how many issues did they have those amplifications? It seems outdated to keep them around unless they fulfill our minimum standards.

I reiterate that we’ve consistently allowed amps that don’t meet the appearance standard if they‘re extremely relevant to an event, which the Phoenix Five are.