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The Overlord (Ninjago) Nonduality ability

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Hi. In this CRT I want to bring up Overlord's feats from Season 3 "Rebooted" and Season 15 "Crystalized".​

For more info about here check this:​

Overlord's GM form;​

Cosmology blog;



Explanation​

1. Overlord is Conceptual Darkness for all of creation:​

This means that Overlord is not just an ordinary dark entity but represents darkness in a fundamental, conceptual sense for everything in existence.

2. FSM and his power represent Conceptual Light:​

FSM is the opposite of Overlord, representing Light in a fundamental way, and together, they form the primary dual forces — Darkness and Light — that make up the Balance governing reality.
Where there is Light, there will always be Shadow! - The Overlord to Ultimate Spinjitzu Master

3. Balance is the primary conception that governs all of reality:​

This indicates that the duality between Light and Darkness is a fundamental system that controls how existence functions as a whole.

4. Overlord is able to use and even fully blend with Conceptual Light:​

This is Overlord’s unique ability. He is not just a force of darkness; he can also completely control his opposing force, Light which represented by his Golden Master form.

5. Overlord is able to destroy a dual system he is a part of without being destroyed:​

This is a significant point. Normally, if a dual system is destroyed, everything that is part of it should suffer. However, Overlord has the power to break the balance between Light and Darkness without facing any negative consequences.

6. Since Light and Darkness is a duality, Overlord needs Nonduality Type 1 or Type 2:​

This suggests that Overlord needs a certain level of nonduality to be able to break this balance without being affected himself. This type of nonduality allows him to be free from the restrictions of the duality between Light and Darkness, enabling him to control and even destroy the system if needed.

Summary​

The main idea here is that Overlord represents a dark force capable of transcending the usual constraints of the dual system between Light and Darkness, making him uniquely powerful. He can manipulate opposing forces and destroy the dual system he is part of without being harmed.

This ability should be added to Spirit Form key ('cause Overlord's true form is the spirit and Nonduality should be his natural innate ability) and Golden Master form

Agree: @Lloydblitzed, @REX9097, @Arency, @OrangeFR, @Hellformer, @OMNIVERSAL-KING
Neutral:
Disagree:
 
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This is just Tommy rambling and theorizing, not an actual statement. We all know that Garmadon has Oni powers, which would be impossible if FSM got rid of it.
You also could add more scans tbh, for example there are far more that say that Overlord is the source of all Evil and is evil itself.

Following regardless, gotta see how this goes.
 

Hi. I this CRT I want to bring up Overlord's feats from Season 3 "Rebooted" and Season 15 "Crystalized".​

For more info about here check this:​

Overlord's GM form;​

Cosmology blog;



Explanation​

1. Overlord is Conceptual Darkness for all of creation:​

This means that Overlord is not just an ordinary dark entity but represents darkness in a fundamental, conceptual sense for everything in existence.

2. FSM and his power represent Conceptual Light:​

FSM is the opposite of Overlord, representing Light in a fundamental way, and together, they form the primary dual forces — Darkness and Light — that make up the Balance governing reality.

3. Balance is the primary conception that governs all of reality:​

This indicates that the duality between Light and Darkness is a fundamental system that controls how existence functions as a whole.

4. Overlord is able to use and even fully blend with Conceptual Light:​

This is Overlord’s unique ability. He is not just a force of darkness; he can also completely control his opposing force, Light which represented by his Golden Master form.

5. Overlord is able to destroy a dual system he is a part of without being destroyed:​

This is a significant point. Normally, if a dual system is destroyed, everything that is part of it should suffer. However, Overlord has the power to break the balance between Light and Darkness without facing any negative consequences.

6. Since Light and Darkness is a duality, Overlord needs Nonduality Type 1 or Type 2:​

This suggests that Overlord needs a certain level of nonduality to be able to break this balance without being affected himself. This type of nonduality allows him to be free from the restrictions of the duality between Light and Darkness, enabling him to control and even destroy the system if needed.

Summary​

The main idea here is that Overlord represents a dark force capable of transcending the usual constraints of the dual system between Light and Darkness, making him uniquely powerful. He can manipulate opposing forces and destroy the dual system he is part of without being harmed.

This ability should be added to Spirit Form key ('cause Overlord's true form is the spirit and Nonduality should be his natural innate ability) and Golden Master form

Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:

This is just Tommy rambling and theorizing, not an actual statement. We all know that Garmadon has Oni powers, which would be impossible if FSM got rid of it.
You also could add more scans tbh, for example there are far more that say that Overlord is the source of all Evil and is evil itself.

Following regardless, gotta see how this goes.

This better (proves) for this

Explanation​

1. Overlord is Conceptual Darkness for all of creation:​

This means that Overlord is not just an ordinary dark entity but represents darkness in a fundamental, conceptual sense for everything in existence.

2. FSM and his power represent Conceptual Light:​

FSM is the opposite of Overlord, representing Light in a fundamental way, and together, they form the primary dual forcesDarkness and Light — that make up the Balance governing reality.

3. Balance is the primary conception that governs all of reality:​

This indicates that the duality between Light and Darkness is a fundamental system that controls how existence functions as a whole.

4. Overlord is able to use and even fully blend with Conceptual Light:​

This is Overlord’s unique ability. He is not just a force of darkness; he can also completely control his opposing force, Light which represented by his Golden Master form (Ninjago: Rebooted, "Enter the Digiverse")

5. Overlord is able to destroy a dual system he is a part of without being destroyed:​

This is a significant point. Normally, if a dual system is destroyed, everything that is part of it should suffer. However, Overlord has the power to break the balance between Light and Darkness without facing any negative consequences.

6. Since Light and Darkness is a duality, Overlord needs Nonduality Type 1 or Type 2:​

This suggests that Overlord needs a certain level of nonduality to be able to break this balance without being affected himself. This type of nonduality allows him to be free from the restrictions of the duality between Light and Darkness, enabling him to control and even destroy the system if needed.

Summary​

The main idea here is that Overlord represents a dark force capable of transcending the usual constraints of the dual system between Light and Darkness, making him uniquely powerful. He can manipulate opposing forces and destroy the dual system he is part of without being harmed.
 
This is just Tommy rambling and theorizing, not an actual statement. We all know that Garmadon has Oni powers, which would be impossible if FSM got rid of it.
True
You also could add more scans tbh, for example there are far more that say that Overlord is the source of all Evil and is evil itself.
There's countless of them, so it should be solid

2. FSM and his power represent Conceptual Light:​

FSM is the opposite of Overlord, representing Light in a fundamental way, and together, they form the primary dual forcesDarkness and Light — that make up the Balance governing reality.
To further back it up, FSM also wanted to make a world full of pure Light only, but Overlord stepped in bc that isn't possible due to the Balance

Agree with the thread overall
 
This is just Tommy rambling and theorizing, not an actual statement. We all know that Garmadon has Oni powers, which would be impossible if FSM got rid of it.
You also could add more scans tbh, for example there are far more that say that Overlord is the source of all Evil and is evil itself.

Following regardless, gotta see how this goes.
Your vote please
 
Question is still open:

It can be considered Type 1 Nonduality 'cause its only for Light and Darkness, however Light and Darkness forms a Balance which is a force over all other things in the verse (like forces of Creation and Destruction, Realms e.t.c.) which sounds like Type 2 Nonduality and the Overlord was considered to be unbeatable entity with no rivals which could defeat him.

With no equal adversary, his power will go unmatched. His destructive rule will change the face of the world, and he will not stop until every man, woman, and Serpentine are enslaved under his control. — Acidicus, "The Curse of the Golden Master"


Can you please express your opinions about this?
 
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Question is still open:

It can be considered Type 1 Nonduality 'cause its only for Light and Darkness, however Light and Darkness forms a Balance which is a force over all other things in the verse (like forces of Creation and Destruction, Realms e.t.c.) which sounds like Type 2 Nonduality and the Overlord was considered to be unbeatable entity with no rivals which could defeat him.




Can you please express your opinions about this?

Agree with this
 
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