The now overdue Calebcity profile creation

[Damage3245]

To get us back on topic, I will be removing Antvasima's comments above and my own. This is a blatant derail of the thread's intended purpose.

EDIT: There. Now let's please move on from that. There is nothing for you to respond to there now, Phoenks.

 

[Spinoirr]

Since you guys are having trouble convincing the moderators.
I decided to marathon all 230+ CalebCity videos.
It was funny as hell boi
​

SUBTITLES​

Green is an evidence in favor of OP
Red is an evidence against the OP
Yellow is a VERY strong evidence

I will be gathering evidence and counterevidence for both sides so it's fair.

A Compilation of CalebCity Comments on Characters

• Turning on someone elses shower: "Caleb calls someone called "Jordan", but we never see 'em"​
• When you have to rethink your relationship: "Main Character is referred as "Caleb" by the girl" (Caleb can SING, DAMN)​
• My Top 100 Vines: "Character is referred as "Caleb" again several times, one where he is the magician"​
• My Top 100 Vines: "Character played by Caleb is referred as John, we also have other different names when Caleb is playing a parody character from an already known series like Link and Anikin"​
• When you decide to turn your life around for the better: "Former Robber is referred as "Mr Grill""​
• Every Scary Movie Trailer: "Character is referred as Tyler"​
• Things you want to do, but don't: "Caleb is the character again"​
• How the writers of some Animes just be letting the villain's abilities make no sense: "Villain is referred as Koa for the first time"​
• When you travel through time to stop yourself from making a dumb mistake: "Caleb time travels to warn himself"​
• When you get too serious playing Basketball: "Caleb is referred by name again"​
• I will no longer be adding clips where Caleb is making a parody of already existing characters, there are more during the run of his channel, but it's clear those don't scale to his profile.​
• Drama shows after 12 seasons: "John comes back" (I don't know if characters being consistent is a pro or a con)​
• Cutting a knife with a 1000 degree MARSHMELLOW and The new invisible cloak just came in!: "Guy with Glasses is a consistent character in both"​
• Your whole funny bone: "Calebcity directly transitions between the reality and the in-universe dimension"​
• The first plant to become a venus fly trap and if insects had to introduce themselves: "These videos show continuity, as the plant that turns into a venus fly trap is the crazy plant referred in the later video"​
• Basically how trying to stay neutral is: "Caleb is the character here as well, even though he has a different outfit. Characters in the CalebCity Universe are recognized by their outfit"​
• Someone tries to rob an upcomning rapper: "Robber is named Austin"​
• I hate porta potties: "Description says "This always happens to me, they just caught it on camera this time." suggesting the skit character is Caleb, and in some capacity, the characters are the actor himself"​
• The "where I'm from" type people: "To further reiterate this, description says "I never finished my story either""​
• Basically ANY voice command device: "MC's friend is called Chris"​
• Just some throw away videos: "Very definitive answer, all his in-universe skits are played by his in-universe character in a skit. Description also says "me doing this""​
• When the Hero is just as smart as the villain: "Villain says "you're smarter than you look", and the hero responds by stating the line doesn't work here, aluding to the fact they're the same person"​

...
Aight, I'm tired, I'll update this later.​

Bumping this so new people don't need to scroll to find it

 

[ZillertheBucko]

The one in yellow basically seals the deal
also what in the god damn happened here

 

[Nierre]

Well I'm neutral overall but great great great work on that profile jeez

Common CalebCity (and fans) W

 

[TheMassivlyUnkn0wn]

he already has universal durability via this feat

 

[NHTkenshin2]

The only evidence that seems to support the notion of them being several different characters is random names being tossed around, which do not contradict the ample of evidence that strongly suggests that all the characters are portrayed by Caleb.

I agree with the OP

 

[BLS]

Reading through the arguments, put me on agree for Caleb

 

[Lonkitt]

I am afraid that I agree with DMUA and Ovens here. We do not and should not allow stage personas of real world people and also do not allow composite characters across multiple roles for the same actors.

I think this is a fairly weak argument given we literally have guys like Logan Paul on the wiki

 

[TheMassivlyUnkn0wn]

also i stand by the take that this argument is just another way of saying "we dont allow funny characters even if they have feats"

like let me put scott the woz against generic anime character #591

 

[KingTempest]

But spongebob got a profile

 

[TheMassivlyUnkn0wn]

that IS true... but still

 

[ZillertheBucko]

The vast majority of human beings here want a Caleb profile, the vs wiki was made for a hobby, people want to have fun every once in a while
simply add the profile

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Spongebob is a published Cartoon character made by a well known company, so I don't we can fully compare that to Calebcity.

 

[Lonkitt]

I don't think the validity of Caleb's content needs to be questioned. Characters from his skits would be viable for profiles. Its just the debate of whether or not the composite part is reliable

 

[ZillertheBucko]

The fact that there’s an in-universe Caleb that creates all the content, almost everyone is named Caleb, and there are multiple meta references to the fact that they’re all Caleb, on top of the fact that a non composite version of Caleb would offer the more boring shit ever seen on this website….

 

[Dalesean027]

Since you guys are having trouble convincing the moderators.
I decided to marathon all 230+ CalebCity videos.
It was funny as hell boi
​

SUBTITLES​

Green is an evidence in favor of OP
Red is an evidence against the OP
Yellow is a VERY strong evidence

I will be gathering evidence and counterevidence for both sides so it's fair.

A Compilation of CalebCity Comments on Characters

• Turning on someone elses shower: "Caleb calls someone called "Jordan", but we never see 'em"​
• When you have to rethink your relationship: "Main Character is referred as "Caleb" by the girl" (Caleb can SING, DAMN)​
• My Top 100 Vines: "Character is referred as "Caleb" again several times, one where he is the magician"​
• My Top 100 Vines: "Character played by Caleb is referred as John, we also have other different names when Caleb is playing a parody character from an already known series like Link and Anikin"​
• When you decide to turn your life around for the better: "Former Robber is referred as "Mr Grill""​
• Every Scary Movie Trailer: "Character is referred as Tyler"​
• Things you want to do, but don't: "Caleb is the character again"​
• How the writers of some Animes just be letting the villain's abilities make no sense: "Villain is referred as Koa for the first time"​
• When you travel through time to stop yourself from making a dumb mistake: "Caleb time travels to warn himself"​
• When you get too serious playing Basketball: "Caleb is referred by name again"​
• I will no longer be adding clips where Caleb is making a parody of already existing characters, there are more during the run of his channel, but it's clear those don't scale to his profile.​
• Drama shows after 12 seasons: "John comes back" (I don't know if characters being consistent is a pro or a con)​
• Cutting a knife with a 1000 degree MARSHMELLOW and The new invisible cloak just came in!: "Guy with Glasses is a consistent character in both"​
• Your whole funny bone: "Calebcity directly transitions between the reality and the in-universe dimension"​
• The first plant to become a venus fly trap and if insects had to introduce themselves: "These videos show continuity, as the plant that turns into a venus fly trap is the crazy plant referred in the later video"​
• Basically how trying to stay neutral is: "Caleb is the character here as well, even though he has a different outfit. Characters in the CalebCity Universe are recognized by their outfit"​
• Someone tries to rob an upcomning rapper: "Robber is named Austin"​
• I hate porta potties: "Description says "This always happens to me, they just caught it on camera this time." suggesting the skit character is Caleb, and in some capacity, the characters are the actor himself"​
• The "where I'm from" type people: "To further reiterate this, description says "I never finished my story either""​
• Basically ANY voice command device: "MC's friend is called Chris"​
• Just some throw away videos: "Very definitive answer, all his in-universe skits are played by his in-universe character in a skit. Description also says "me doing this""​
• When the Hero is just as smart as the villain: "Villain says "you're smarter than you look", and the hero responds by stating the line doesn't work here, aluding to the fact they're the same person"​

...
Aight, I'm tired, I'll update this later.​

I mean considering all of this coupled with the evidence in the note and the fact that there's more thats not even here I'd say there's plenty evidence for them being the same caleb it's really just about how comfortable wiki staff feel about it since its making everyone(staff) uneasy and think this will be the like the rising of the anti-christ on the wiki or something

 

[Lonkitt]

Comically overpowered characters have a habit of bothering people, but like....thats also just a lot of VS debating in general, so thats whatever

 

[Dalesean027]

Comically overpowered characters have a habit of bothering people, but like....thats also just a lot of VS debating in general, so thats whatever

Yeah I know I'm not really tripping over it it's just kinda silly so I gotta make my jokes here and there

 

[CloverDragon03]

also i stand by the take that this argument is just another way of saying "we dont allow funny characters even if they have feats"

like let me put scott the woz against generic anime character #591

Time to calc an explosion in Borderline Forever

Anyways I'm leaning more towards agreeing with the OP right now, it definitely seems ridiculous on paper, but we literally have a Logan Paul profile so this should be fine. Even without that, I'd lean towards agreeing

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

It definitely seems ridiculous on paper, but we literally have a Logan Paul profile so this should be fine.

If Jacksepticeye became a major character in the MCU, we'd also give him a profile. Don't think that's the best comparison

 

[CloverDragon03]

Even without that, I'd lean towards agreeing

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Spongebob is a published Cartoon character made by a well known company, so I don't we can fully compare that to Calebcity.

Why does that make it better or worse than an independent property?

Calebcity is well known enough, Vs Battles have indexed lesser famous profiles.
Vs Battles have indexed indie properties before, Helluva Boss being a prime example.
Live-Action is also indexed on the wiki.

So;
being a cartoon,
being well known,
and coming from a company
are things that don't really influence the decision of making a profile or not. They never were.

So in what way is Calebcity different than Spongebob? In what way that matters, are they different?

I thought the requirements were;
-being fiction
-have feats
-be relevant
?​

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I mean if being published or recognized is a problem Caleb’s content is listed on Imdb as well as Amazon, both as a TV series.

 

[Dalesean027]

I mean if being published or recognized is a problem Caleb’s content is listed on Imdb as well as Amazon, both as a TV series.

Amazon link is broken but I've seen it before so ik what's there

 

[CloverDragon03]

I mean if being published or recognized is a problem Caleb’s content is listed on Imdb as well as Amazon, both as a TV series.

I'd say this is pretty good support given that his content is listed as a TV series

Does this mean Scott the Woz can get a profile via his content being a TV series on G4TV

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Amazon link is broken but I've seen it before so ik what's there

Amazon link fixed

 

[Lonkitt]

The Amazon series pretty much renders all “can’t be considered as a viable verse in the first place” arguments as null

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I mean if being published or recognized is a problem Caleb’s content is listed on Imdb as well as Amazon, both as a TV series.

Fixed the link in my original message too lol

 

[TheMassivlyUnkn0wn]

Chat I think we can do it. The Caleb profile can probably be real now, we debunked all the claims against it. Presented OUR arguments. And created unironically one of the best made VS profiles I've ever seen.

oh cool the celebratory pizza is here lemme just get that-

 

[Comiphorous]

this is what battle boarding is all about.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

This finna go down in the history books lmao.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Leaning towards agreeing with the OP

 

[Damage3245]

I don't mind it being a viable verse or not.

I'm objecting to it all being considered a single composite character.

Characters all being named "Caleb" (which isn't the case anyway) does not mean each one is literally Caleb.

I mean, look at this justification:

• He can seemingly change his character on the spot whenever he seems fit for the video, despite contradictions[27]. A prominent example of this is the video Drama shows after 12 seasons[27] with the following sequence of events: Red Hat Caleb (Caleb 1) slept with Black Hat Caleb's (Caleb 2) wife who is also Caleb 2's cousin[27], then it is revealed that Caleb 1's kid that he's been raising for 4 years is actually Caleb 2's kid and Caleb 2 is actually the one who got Caleb 1's wife pregnant and that Caleb 1's wife is actually his sister[27], with the final mindboggling reveal that Caleb 2 is actually a dude and has been Caleb 1's wife the whole time[27] - and this is all within the same video. The details contradict each other if both Calebs are treated differently, but it would only make sense if both Calebs are the same person.

"Seemingly change his character despite contradictions". You realize that the video is just a parody of drama shows that end up having terrible writing/plots? So the characters inside the skit giving contradictory information doesn't mean he is bending reality to make it all make sense... It just means the writing of the skit inside the video doesn't make sense and the fictional series is full of plot holes, plot twists and terrible writing.

Why does both Calebs being the same person be the only rational explanation here?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I don't mind it being a viable verse or not.

I'm objecting to it all being considered a single composite character.

Characters all being named "Caleb" (which isn't the case anyway) does not mean each one is literally Caleb.

I mean, look at this justification:

look at this one instead

• Caleb uploads in-universe videos to his Youtube channel, with his reality being fictional and separate from the Real World[53]. The video in question contains futuristic technology such as a device that can peer into alternate realities[53] and invisible knives and guns[53], along with nonsensical events such as the common cold warping reality[53] or becoming intangible upon getting hit[53] - all of which should not be possible in the Real World and could only be portrayed in Fiction. This is without accounting for his other videos that displays even more absurd feats.

 

[Giannysmag]

I fully agree with the OP

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Why does both Calebs being the same person be the only rational explanation here?

Because the descriptions makes clear that it's him, Caleb, who is in those skits!
Again, look at the compilation of the evidence!

which is still halfway done

The descriptions of some videos refers to the character in it as "me, I", etc
It's natural that all Calebs are in-universe versions of the actual Caleb!
Occam's Razor.​

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

meh, instead of debating for half a century we could just put, the following:

Caleb probably has the powers of all other characters because they are him but it's not clear if this is 4th wall breaking reference

 

[Dalesean027]

meh, instead of debating for half a century we could just put, the following:

Nah because its pretty blatant I'd rather not have an entire profile of possibly ratings and its pretty explicit

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Nah because its pretty blatant I'd rather not have an entire profile of possibly ratings and its pretty explicit

Ta ok

 

[KingNanaya]

Nah because its pretty blatant I'd rather not have an entire profile of possibly ratings and its pretty explicit

9-A, possibly 8-C, possibly 8-B, possibly 8-A, possibly 7-C, possibly 7-B, possibly 7-A, possibly 6-C, possibly 6-B, possibly 6-A, possibly 5-C, possibly, 5-B, possibly 5-A, possibly 4-C, possibly 4-B, possibly 4-A, possibly 3-C, possibly 3-B, possibly 3-A, possibly 2-C, likely 0, higher with YouTube Algorithm