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"The longer Godzilla is on earth, the stronger he will become"

Funny thing is both of these characters shoot beams from their forehead area.


Anyways, Godzilla has no way of putting The Icon down for good (Immortality). Ends in the universe being absorbed into hell.
 
What type of immortality does the Icon have? From what i can tell nothing really stops Goji from just yelling loudly and reducing the Icon to dust
 
I've moved the thread to the Versus Threads board.
 
Yes.


A lesser titan was going to resurrect itself immediately after removing the crucible as we see in Taras nabad, and the Icon has came back despite being physically destroyed in doom 2.
 
Dunno. It's a statement that "Without the Crucible Blade, the Titan will get back up" (Something to that effect) and that no matter what the Doomslayer did, he NEEDED a crucible blade to defeat a Titan.
 
What do you consider death? The titan was very visibly beaten and battered and decayed, much like a corpse. The crucible isn't sealing, it prevents a titan from resurrecting (much like how the cyberdemon from doom 2016 was able to do.) as long as it stays inside the titans body.


Regardless you very clearly need the crucible or atlan to destroy a titan.
 
Not really, Titans are already considered immortal primordial beings.


If you remove the Crucible the Icon will quite literally just get back up again and start destroying earth. It's not really a no limits fallacy as much as it's an actual event in game... Anyways if the Icon could be theoretically killed by other means then just use the BFG 10k on him, but alas the only weapon and entity capable of doing such is Doomguy and his crucible blade.
 
Doomguy literally kills the Titan with just his bare hands, and actually, there exist multiple Titans.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Doomguy literally kills the Titan with just his bare hands, and actually, there exist multiple Titans.
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Reminder that the Titan Doomguy slayed is a different Titan from the ones which are Primordial Beings.

One is designed to "counter" Doomguy (yeah no) and the other is an actual species (Or what qualifies as a species by the Demons).

The ones we see in Doom Eternal are blatantly stated to constantly revive and get back up if there isn't a crucible blade embedded into their body or else the BFG 9000 would be able to just pop their heads off 0 difficulty.
 
I'd love some evidence that the Icon would get back up immediately from being reduced to a pile of molecular dust
 
The BFG 9000 only has enough evidence to be 8-A scaling from those otherwise immune to the 2 Megakelvin laser. Which a human sized target would only need that much level of heat resistance to be immune to 2 Megakelvin heat. So even if the BFG 9000 could vaporize Titans despite it struggling to kill the far inferior Cyberdemons, it would be passed as PIS. However, Crucible appears to just have sealing. But Doomslayer could kill the others with just his bare hands if not for the Resurrection thing.

Also, Titans would need High Regenerationn to survive against Godzilla if Godzilla atomizes?
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
The BFG 9000 only has enough evidence to be 8-A scaling from those otherwise immune to the 2 Megakelvin laser. Which a human sized target would only need that much level of heat resistance to be immune to 2 Megakelvin heat. So even if the BFG 9000 could vaporize Titans despite it struggling to kill the far inferior Cyberdemons, it would be passed as PIS. However, Crucible appears to just have sealing. But Doomslayer could kill the others with just his bare hands if not for the Resurrection thing.

Also, Titans would need High Regenerationn to survive against Godzilla if Godzilla atomizes?
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Technically not true, there are plenty of statements for argent plasma that puts it massively above just 2 Megakelvin.
 
Not every weapon uses that much Argent plasma, and we don't know how much BFG uses per shot. I'm not sure if it was ever agreed to scale BFG 9000 from the batteries. The BFG 10000 on the other hand has it's own energy that far surpasses the 9000.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Not every weapon uses that much Argent plasma, and we don't know how much BFG uses per shot. I'm not sure if it was ever agreed to scale BFG 9000 from the batteries. The BFG 10000 on the other hand has it's own energy that far surpasses the 9000.
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That much argent plasma? You mean the amount of argent plasma that could fit in the palm of a hand? I don't see how amount would matter either, it's an exothermic reaction that argent plasma can achieve just by itself, they never even discern the amount even.


Also the BFG 10k does not use it's own energy, it manipulates the original attack from the BFG 9k into a beam via injecting argent plasma into the barrel, which creates a reaction powerful enough to crack a planet.
 
Jangles211 said:
And this is supposed to reduce shit to molcules? Lol?
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Yes, thats literally what it does, you even see the ships its attacking get turned into particles. It produces powerful shockwaves with high oscillatory frequency, destroying targets on a molecular level with resonance phenomena.
 
Yes, thats literally what it does, you even see the ships its attacking get turned into particles. It produces powerful shockwaves with high oscillatory frequency, destroying targets on a molecular level with resonance phenomena.

According to what? All I see are ships being exploded (and some at that actually survive)
 
@Jangles, it's not about the size of it, it's about how much Argent energy. Energy =/= volume of the object storing it. Also, the energy for each shot is the important part.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
@Jangles, it's not about the size of it, it's about how much Argent energy. Energy =/= volume of the object storing it. Also, the energy for each shot is the important part.
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Ok and argent energy derives from argent plasma, the more argent plasma the more argent energy, it's a very simple concept, the BFG as a ball of superheated plasma should logically be the same heat as the argent plasma observed prior, why wouldn't it be.
 
Plasma doesn't have a static density or volume either. So it's unknown if Argent plasma is different.
 
Argent plasma is just a name for something that isn't really anything known by humanity to begin with, it has a different quantum signature and is actually spiritual in nature (Since it is basically the souls of humans used as energy).


Why would in this case such a small device containing very little of this essence have a superior temperature to the strongest weapon produced by argent, and even then the temperatures are simply achieved by an exothermic reaction, which is obviously present in the BFGs firing mechanism is it not?
 
The problem with the Icon ressurecting is that Godzilla can disassemble him at the molecular level in at least two ways. A sweep of his beam should be capable of it given its nature as a particle beam. And his oscillatory wave would make the icon crumble. While true the Icon has a fair advantage in power, it's also fighting someone with a constant shield that no-difs island level energy output. So Godzilla will take lno damage with his shield up, it only disables to 1/10000th of a second, and any damage done in that time will simply regenerate over by the time the shield should come back up.

Also saying that ONLY a crucible can kill a titan is pretty much a no limits fallacy. Would that apply to relative foes? What about planet busters? Galaxy shakers? What about hacks unknown to the verse like conceptual destruction?

I'd say Godzilla has the tools and defenses to ware the icon down and finishing it off.

And the black hole would be unfair, it has properties similar to Ghidorah on a similar or greater scale and Godzilla was absolutely helpless against Ghidorah's 4-D hacks.
 
Honestly, despite how high I have the Icon at, and how I don't really agree with Weekly

Godzilla Earth FTRA.
 
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