The Lich vs Zonda. ASG has an 8-B key now, let's have some fun.

[The_Smashor]

Zonda vs The Lich.

Rules: Composite Reverie Zonda vs 8-B Lich. Speed Equalized. Both are bloodlusted and have prior knowledge. Battle takes place in the Gungeon.





Zonda:

The Lich:

Inconclusive:

 

[Jinsye]

Yo does Zonda have a way to defeat the Lich while still making them suffer.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah what can Zonda do to beat Kaliber

 

[DMUA]

You know if it wasn't such a horrible Idea I would make The Brothers Death vs Kaliber

 

[Schnee_One]

That Is either a terrible idea or incon

 

[DMUA]

I mean considering one side has a bunch of 1-B gear, I'd go with the former

 

[Schnee_One]

Also banned

 

[DMUA]

oh yeah

 

[The_Smashor]

Would one shotting The Lich stop time from rewinding? (I ask this since it says Kaliber rewinds time when The Lich is near death). Also Zonda has all of the powers of The Seven, one of witch can turn things into code. Should I give both prior knowledge so that they can better counter each other?

 

[Jinsye]

If the Lich is dead

y'know

he ain't suffering

 

[The_Smashor]

With prior knowledge Zonda would know to incap him so that he dosn't die. The question is can she do that before The Lich kills her. I'm starting to feel that this should not be the match to celebrate 8-B Gunvolt.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Probably not.

 

[DMUA]

Anyways ugh

Zonda is like, unquantifiably above baseline and The Lich is a + I believe

So

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Nope. 8-B is pretty low, 8-A is just below the +.

8-B Lich is 13 Tons IIRC.

But Danmaku means he just hits them a bunch quickly.

 

[The_Smashor]

13 tons vs 46 (Scaling from GV causing a power outage)

 

[Schnee_One]

How can Zonda one shot?

 

[The_Smashor]

Zonda A: Is stronger than someone who has an almost 4x AP Advantage and B: Can convert The Lich into data with Teseo's powers.

 

[Schnee_One]

4x isn't enough to one shot with Mid High regen and turning into data gets TimeHaxed back

Zonda gets stomped

 

[DMUA]

Yeah... 4x hurts but doesn't kill quite like that

Zonda gets yeeted

 

[Schnee_One]

And it especially doesn't atomize someone and beat their regen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlM3kpqEo0

 

[The_Smashor]

Reality to data and data manipulation is the main reason I think Zonda might have a chance. I might as well be using Teseo at that point, really.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

And then timehax.

 

[The_Smashor]

They both have prior knowledge.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

They both have prior knowledge.

Does that actually do anything?

 

[Schnee_One]

Nope

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So Lich wins via

"lolresurrect"

and just blasting her to kingdom come

 

[Schnee_One]

Pretty much

Stomperino

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So Zonda's literal only wincon is

Avoiding the BFR fist that opens beneath her after Lich dies

Does Zonda have a counter to that stuff (even suitable stamina could do it, assuming one can act for over a day without tiring- it's unlikely, but still)

If you want this closed, that's fine, just saying there is a way to beat Lich without countering his timehax.