The Lich vs The Assasin (One more)

[Mr. Bambu]

Okay, then it'd depend on how good his mindhax is to begin with.

And... really? That's interesting. I'm unsure tbh. That could work.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I don't think The Gamer in his 8-B key can beat Lich though. The magic woman has a chance though.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I plan on doing both to see since I rather like suggestions.

After this one, vs Nega-Chin, and vs Dante finish up.

Also considered throing Low 7-Cs/8-As from Marvel at him.

 

[Schnee_One]

He already fought the strongest one though

Edit: Wait no, I forgot Black Panther

 

[Mr. Bambu]

He already fought the strongest one though
Edit: Wait no, I forgot Black Panther

Psylocke was the strongest? Considered Carnage.

 

[Schnee_One]

Again I forgot Black Panther but he stomps Lich unfortunately

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Does BP stomp Lich? How so? Not doubting it, just curious.

 

[Schnee_One]

IDK whether to tell you or to have a match be made

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I mean

I don't care if Lich loses, I really am just looking for a match in which Lich doesn't get stomped/stomps.

If BP stomps, then making a match is sorta pointless. Since it'd be negged immediately.

I assume it has something to do with his control over the dead, from what I can tell?

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes it is

Although it isn't passive, so it probably isn't a stomp in retrospect

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Not to mention controlling those under her thumb probably falls under the Kaliber list. Might just be something along the lines of an Incon due to loltimehax.net.

 

[Schnee_One]

Just make the match

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Not yet boyo. Finishing up Lich threads of mine first. I'd rather not lose track.

not to mention I've been giving love to not doomguy because I don't like spamming the same character more than they should get spammed

Still. If you'd like to make it, at least it isn't Medaka Box so I'll take part.

 

[Schnee_One]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2268350?useskin=oasis

 

[Schnee_One]

GETSUGA BUMPO

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[Wokistan]

Wait, hold up. Bambu said on another thread that you can theoretically incap by dodging BFR for a while. Well, I'm pretty sure he can't BFR people not super deep into the gungeon already (eg: near him), and all assassin's have been described as being able to dodge so well it was mistaken for supernatural blessings, and eversors being the direct combat assassin who's "stealth" is more just "nobody can say it happened if all the witnesses are dead" is probably among the better types in doing this. They're also taken away and cryo frozen once a mission is done, so idek if lich has long to try that. Retracting my vote altogether for now.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

@Wok

Nah. Only reason Lich can't BFR earlier is generally because he has no reason to do so. Lore-wise, I'm 99% certain the only reason he grabs you is because Bullet That Can Kill The Past (and I believe he has another Gun), and game mechanics preventing him from dragging you in with your Pea Shooter.

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[Stillwinston]

Lich FRA

 

[Mr. Bambu]

ey

3 more

 

[Schnee_One]

Bumpesse

 

[Wokistan]

I'll switch back to lich

 

[Schnee_One]

Well at least we know it isn't a complete stomp

2 more

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If a match with no win-con for one character is not a stomp, this is far from a stomp kek.

 

[Schnee_One]

Indeed, otherwise all of Lich's wins get removed Kek

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[Mr. Bambu]

just gonna pretend that I didn't explain Lich matches to you

as soon as this is done, I do plan on spamming another character now that the conquest for Lich is over as of Medaka.

 

[Schnee_One]

Just going to pretend they existed in an actually realistic manner

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I once again ask, what makes you think it's game mechanics? I mran, he had no reason to earlier, but we can't really assume that he is able of something he hasn't showcased.

Is there any positive proof that he can bfr you from outside the gungeon? There not being proof against it is obviously not quiet enough.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

In EtG

There is no time outside of the Gungeon, save for the past, where the Lich doesn't care.

It displayed the ability to punch through sealing by interacting with things outside of Bullet Hell. So the BFR works outside of sealing. That's uh... that's it, this isn't a hard concept.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I am not saying that he can, but has he ever made portals to anywhere but when you are deep in? Plus, where they normaly start is outside of the gungeon-

 

[Mr. Bambu]

1. No, you start in the Breach. Which is a part of the Gungeon, albeit the entrance.

2. No need to, you already said that. He only has need to drag people to hell when they have the Bullet That Can Kill The Past.

This has been explained to death.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not here. Here they start outside of the gungeon due to SBA.

Just qoute the explainationb to me, but he doesn't showcase the ability to bfr from any higher than that and it's simply being assumed.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Any higher than what?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Then where he bfr's you from. And again, by SBA they are outside of the gungeon.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

How is The Lich outside the Gungeon if he's locked in there? Also, it's possible to simply change the location of fights to the Gungeon.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Not really. Being sealed in Bullet Hell is an inherent part of the character. Ergo, he is outside for a second, and Kaliber drags him back. His BFR has shown no such limitation as it is literally just opening portals. Additionally. Bullet Hell is not, in fact, a physical part of the Gungeon. Lich is able to BFR anyways. His range, therefore, should be changed to Inter-Dimensional due to being able to do it from Hell.

I would say yes, he has the range.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The fighters get both teleported to central park. He still gets bfr'd back.