The Last Dragonborn Meets The Queen of The Succubi

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Speed equalized, both at full power.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Dovahkiin resists mindhax at a conceptual level. What else does Malc have?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Dovahkiin resists mindhax at a conceptual level. What else does Malc have?

when?

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Isn't Thuum conceptual? Dovah resists Miraak's Bend Will.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

The Dragonborn has a lot of resistances that haven't been added to his profile yet.

But yeah, the Thu'um is a conceptual power that literally adds to the Song of Creation. Dovahkiin resisted Miraak's Bend Will shout.

...That said, if the Dragonborn casted "Banish Daedra" here, would Malcanthet be banished to the Abyss, or to Oblivion?

Malcanthet meeting Molag Bal or Mehrunes Dagon would be a fun character interaction.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...Wait he does?

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Yep.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

bump

 

[TacticalNuke002]

What can Malc do other than seduction?

 

[DingleberryDovah]

Dovah and Malcanthet actually resist a lot of each other's hax. Dovah does still have Soul Manipulation, so he can probably take the win after an exchange of ineffective abilities between the two.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Mal upscales a bit from 2-A range mindhax.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

 

[TacticalNuke002]

I don't have a good image for At least low 1-C Conceptual Manipulation.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I don't have a good image for At least low 1-C Conceptual Manipulation.

Dayum

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

2-A range does not mean 2-A potency

Dovah most likely resists and tells Mal to go commit die in Thu'um

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

2-A range does not mean 2-A potency
Dovah most likely resists and tells Mal to go commit die in Thu'um

On this site, yes, it does. Range of mindhax determines the potency of it. Mindhax with 5-B range is superior to mindhax with 5-C range, etc.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

pretty sure that's not the case

but regardless, if that conceptual mind hax that Dovah resists is on the same level as Thu'um, then he still resists

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

pretty sure that's not the case
but regardless, if that conceptual mind hax that Dovah resists is on the same level as Thu'um, then he still resists

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_Manipulation "Generally speaking, we judge the potency of Mind Manipulation both by what it can do and by how many people its user can affect at once with it. This may range from only a few people at a time to entire planetary populations."

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Dovah has High 1-B range with non-damaging Shouts. He can tell Mal to go die.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Does Mal resist time stop because if not that's a thing he can do

There's also the daedric artifacts

also finish this thread before Kong and Matt come to preach about prisoner metaphysics

 

[Ultima_Reality]

More like finish this Thread before someone comes to preach about Tier 1 Daedric Artifacts.

 

[Paul_Frank]

That too

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

i voted for Dovah if it wasn't obvious btw

 

[KongKing23]

Mindhax immortal beings powered by abstraction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mindhax mundane people

Resisting mindhax from multiversal entity predates concepts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mindhax an entire multiverse full of mundane people

EDIT: Technically, Thu'um range is also at Tier 1 if you observed how Miraak can pierce through Mundus Barriers and traverse infinite realms of Oblivion to reach Sosltheim.

Dovahkiin FRA, and I refrain from preaching artifacts at this time due to we temporarily ban Player Heroes debate.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

...

Just gonna say Demon Lords predate the multiverse and it's concepts. Obyrinths (a class of demon lord) were literally the first beings in some creation stories, predating the gods (concepts).

Comparing a D&D character to TES is indeed insulting but uh... just the other way around.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

But TES is Tier 0 while DnD is what? Tier 2 with few tier 1s.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

> 1 Tier 1

> Mystara exists

> High 1-B everyone

> hmm

also I believe that Tier 1 (Lumi) is > TES Tier 1s (who are upscaled from baseline 1-A, yes?)

but ye anyhow back to the thread

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Ok, edited.

In any case, Dovah FRA. He resists most of her problematic stuff + Prisoner metaphysics gg.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

TES isn't Tier 0 though

what in the god damn

oof

Just gonna address this weird idea from all sides.

"TES is better because it has higher tiers"

See above, no page in TES is Tier 0.

"TES is better because it has more Tier 1s"

Also incorrect, there are literally tens of thousands of Old Ones/Immortals who vary from Low 1-C to High 1-B.

"TES is better because it is strong"

So by default great works of art are crap because most of the best books in the world cap out at like... Tier 9.

"TES is better because it is more popular"

I... would have a very hard time believing Elder Scrolls is more popular than the D&D franchise. On site, probably, people love smurfs.

"TES is better coz lore roflmao"

no.

anyhow if Mal has no win con then this is a stomp. I'm doubtful of the statements for Dovah considering people's history with these characters, but it's late and I got stuff to do tomorrow.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Godhead will be Tier 0 when its made. What is better or not is a matter of opinion and I am not trashing your verse.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

I think he was more replying to KongKing.

 

[KongKing23]

TES isn't Tier 0 though
what in the god damn

oof

Just gonna address this weird idea from all sides.

"TES is better because it has higher tiers"

See above, no page in TES is Tier 0.

"TES is better because it has more Tier 1s"

Also incorrect, there are literally tens of thousands of Old Ones/Immortals who vary from Low 1-C to High 1-B.

"TES is better because it is strong"

So by default great works of art are crap because most of the best books in the world cap out at like... Tier 9.

"TES is better because it is more popular"

I... would have a very hard time believing Elder Scrolls is more popular than the D&D franchise. On site, probably, people love smurfs.

"TES is better coz lore roflmao"

no.

anyhow if Mal has no win con then this is a stomp. I'm doubtful of the statements for Dovah considering people's history with these characters, but it's late and I got stuff to do tomorrow.

I know you are a mod, but you shouldn't abuse this type of authority to baselessly claim anyone assaulting.

I never judged any verse based on their content to authors, which the judgements could cloud the minds and does not lead to enlightenment. Secondly, I highly respect DnD as a matter of fact due to its heavy inspiration on Elder Scrolls gameplay mechanic along with Magic The Gathering. I do have Skyrim Special Edition on Alexa. Thirdly, I never ever judged think any work of fiction or art as crappy. All arts deserve equal amount fo respect except those are violating moral codes like pedophilia or murder threats.

Now, I have cleared my preferences. I hope both of us be cordial to each other in the future.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I don't mind you folk liking your verse. That's on you guys, if I don;t like it that's just sorta rough for me. I took that all as "oh but hey ur verse smelly" (not really my verse, I tend to prefer Bloodborne but hey that's just me). If you wanna claim not-******** on D&D feel free, but if people are gonna misconstrue a verse I'm gonna respond, mod or not, because my position as mod (still not staff by the way, hitthedab.jpg) doesn't change the fact that this is a hobby and I'm gonna be entertained somehow.

Also... a big wha on me using my authority to claim people were assaulting. I don't know you boyo, but if yah hadn't noticed I actively pretend I'm not a mod (uselessly, but still, decent meme, puts a smile on the old ugly mug).

Cheers all.