The King of Heroes vs Some Crazy Old Lady from the Woods

[Monarch_Laciel]

I have no idea.

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

I have no idea.

well,same here, as well,

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

oh and some people said to me that Caster Gil has Low-Godly regen in the battle against Beast II in Babylonia by turned into his younger form

 

[The_Archdemon]

There are curses in Dragon Age, and they we're never shown to work on her.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

The regen negging curse would also work on people like Kirei Kotomine and True Assassi

Speaking of Kirei, if Flemeth is a corpse possessed by a god, then Black Keys would probably work on her too.

 

[QrowBarr]

bump

 

[QrowBarr]

bump

 

[GalaxianAegis]

I just checked Flemeth's profile again, and she even has Probability Manipulation to make all of Gilgamesh's weapons miss. I think his best chance here is Ea because the other attacks likely won't be effective.

He needs his haxxed weapons to land for that hax to take effect.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

He has A rank luck.

That's enough to overturn 100% guaranteed events.

I'm pretty sure that beats her probability manip.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Monarch... What's exactly tour vote? Gilgamesh or Inconclusive?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Didn't he get rekt by Shirou who's luck < E rank since Servants >>> humans?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

@Archdemon not sure yet. Just pointing some things out.

@Dragon Shirou didn't need luck, Shirou had the perfect counter to 99% of what Gilgamesh could do.

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

@Archdemon not sure yet. Just pointing some things out.
@Dragon Shirou didn't need luck, Shirou had the perfect counter to 99% of what Gilgamesh could do.

minus Ea and other Divine weapons

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Minus Ea and every other significant item in GoB.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"every other significant item" including weapons that weren't even revealed to be in there until spin-off series.

Gil got buffed tremendously in all his other appearances after F/SN, you can't compare the Gil here who has everything that Gilgamesh has ever shown, with the Gil who got beat by Shirou who had some weapons that froze space and ignored armour and flesh to only cut bone.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Merodach

 

[Schnee_One]

@Monarch

Nitpick, but Merodach appeared in the Fate route

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

It's not a Divine Construct, so pretty sure Shirou would have copied that too.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

@Gar why are you addressing that to me? I know where it appears, I didn't say anything about Merodach

 

[Schnee_One]

@Gar why are you addressing that to me? I know where it appears, I didn't say anything about Merodach

<Every other significant item

There's a very good portion of significant items in GoB that Gil did not even bother using that did appear within the routes of the game

Swagpack mearly mentioned every notable item, such as Space Freezing blades in the Fate Route, SNI in Heavens feel Enkidu etc., didn't neccessarily mention all weapons including those from Spin Offs, as Gil himself has quite a few notable weapons even without taking spin offs in mind.

 

[GalaxianAegis]

If Gil can deal with the Probability Manipulation, that's great. How does he get past the Physics Manipulation on his projectiles though?

 

[Hizack123]

If Gil can deal with the Probability Manipulation, that's great. How does he get past the Physics Manipulation on his projectiles though?

I think Gae bolg should do a trick.

 

[GalaxianAegis]

I don't think that Gilgamesh can use the True Name release for Gae Bolg, unless I'm wrong.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

If Gil can deal with the Probability Manipulation, that's great. How does he get past the Physics Manipulation on his projectiles though?

Anti magic weapons negating the manipulation on them, and weapons that are straight up stronger than what she can push away

 

[Axl233]

And another Bump.

 

[Axl233]

Another bump.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Gil has Phantasm Punishment to deal with her magic and Regenerationn, so that isn't an issue

 

[GalaxianAegis]

If Gil is capable of dealing his hax, then I think he wins. Gil gets my vote for now.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I also vote for Gil, for both my and other's reasons above

 

[The_Archdemon]

I don't know why nobody mentioned this before. Probably because it goes beyond what Gil can use in this fight (he can only use up to 6-C weapons)? I don't know

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Gil FRA as if he needs any more matches.

 

[QrowBarr]

Doesn't she have power null?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I don't know why nobody mentioned this before. Probably because it goes beyond what Gil can use in this fight (he can only use up to 6-C weapons)? I don't know

because its a relatively lesser known Noble Phantasm. It doesn't belong to any of the real famous ones. Phantasm Punishment itself deals no physical damage, but it deals conceptual destruction on people's internal energy flows and magic. Phantasm Punishment attacks with the concepts of cutting and retying, making the wounds it deals unfixable because the point it that they are conceptually unresotrable. The wounds it deals are already healed, just in a way that will make what the damage unusable

 

[The_Archdemon]

She does

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

How does it work?

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Nah im right here take my vote for Gil FRA.

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

I don't know why nobody mentioned this before. Probably because it goes beyond what Gil can use in this fight (he can only use up to 6-C weapons)? I don't know

because its a relatively lesser known Noble Phantasm. It doesn't belong to any of the real famous ones. Phantasm Punishment itself deals no physical damage, but it deals conceptual destruction on people's internal energy flows and magic. Phantasm Punishment attacks with the concepts of cutting and retying, making the wounds it deals unfixable because the point it that they are conceptually unresotrable. The wounds it deals are already healed, just in a way that will make what the damage unusable

so , it's like a weapon that can deal fatal damage to conceptual being or the people with conceptual armor and null their magic , right, i think it's from a counter guardian in FGO , but i still don't know that did Gil has it or not

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

because its a relatively lesser known Noble Phantasm. It doesn't belong to any of the real famous ones. Phantasm Punishment itself deals no physical damage, but it deals conceptual destruction on people's internal energy flows and magic. Phantasm Punishment attacks with the concepts of cutting and retying, making the wounds it deals unfixable because the point it that they are conceptually unresotrable. The wounds it deals are already healed, just in a way that will make what the damage unusable

Isn't that Emiya's NP?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

so , it's like a weapon that can deal fatal damage to conceptual being or the people with conceptual armor and null their magic , right, i think it's from a counter guardian in FGO , but i still don't know that did Gil has it or not

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. it attacks with the concepts of severing and binding, but deals no physical damage. Its sublimated by a Counter Guardian EMIYA, but since the weapon is of human origin, Gil should still have some version of it. Kirei had his conceptual attacks in the form of his bullets in life, where as his Servant form has it in his knives but can also apply it to his bullets. Due to hus weapon being of human origin, it falls in Gil's arsenal

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Isn't that Emiya's NP?

Yes