The God Of High School low tiers upgrade part 2, electric boogaloo

[DavidTPPM]

So since the last thread died after getting spammed with rather irrelevant stuff I decided to make a part 2. The main argument is that same as in the original thread so you can check that out.

TL;DR of the old stuff:​

Mori Jin in his base form damages Ardun using a triple kick. The triple kick is stated to triple the damage of a single attack meaning base Mori here should scale up to 1/3 of Arduns durability. This upgrades base Mori to low 5-B (via accelerated development).

Mori Hui is then stated to have 5-60% of Mori Jins power. This means he should be upgraded to 5% of Mori Jins base power (also low 5-B)

Mira and Daewi grow in power mid fight and scale above people who tanked a kick from 8x Jeabongchim Mori Hui meaning they should be upgraded to that level (also low 5-B).

To put it simply, base Mori gets upgraded to 1/3 of Arduns durability. Hui gets upgraded to 5% of Moris AP/dura. Mira and Daewi get upgraded to 8x base Huis AP/dura.

Addressing the issues brought up in the original thread​

@BeTheWay1rst has brought up the issue that Ardun might have been weakened when Mori did so, as his body was already cracking. This isn't a defeater since as we've discussed in the original thread, Arduns durability mainly comes from the fact that his skin is made up of Barbadium - the strongest metal in heaven. Meaning him being weakened should not weaken his durability.

That being said, I understand why someone might think that Mori finishing Ardun off wouldn't be enough for him to scale to that level. Thankfully we see Mori fight and defeat Sujin who also has a reliable "At least 6-A" scaling right after beating Ardun. Meaning we could alternatively scale him to her and then scale Hui to 5% of the 6-A value.

Spoiler: Ardun scaling

• Base Moris triple kick >~ Arduns durability
• Base Huis AP = 5% of Moris
• Mira and Daewi > team Japan ~ 8x base Huis stats

Spoiler: Sujin scaling

• Base Mori >~ Sujin
• Base Hui = 5% base Mori
• Mira and Daewi > team japan ~ 8x base Huis stats

Conclusion:​

This brings me to the 3 propositions.

1. We simply scale everyone from Ardun as Moris feats are conclusive enough.
2. The Ardun scaling isn't conclusive enough but, it's not weak enough to simply ignore. As such we will use the Sujin scaling for a "at least" rating and the Ardun for a "Likely" rating.
3. The Ardun scaling isn't reliable at all so we simply use the Sujin scaling.

Agrees with option 1: Me(), Yeolban, Success0906, M2u12, Black-san112, Armorchompy, Lephyr
Agrees with option 2: karo_senpaii, Armorchompy
Agrees with option 3:
Disagrees with all 3 options:

 

[DavidTPPM]

Please don't spam this thread with stuff that's not relevant to it. That means don't question currently accepted values like Sujins 6-A.

If you don't agree with something that's not being proposed in this thread MAKE A SEPARATE CRT FOR IT or just discuss it in the general thread. It's already hard to get staff to check out an in-universe thread for a series with essentially 0 staff supporters, don't make it harder by spamming it with irrelevant opinions.

 

[Success0906]

I agree simple premise.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I agree simple premise.

Thank you ♥. Which option/options do you agree with?

 

[Yeolban]

agree with option 1

 

[Success0906]

Thank you ♥. Which option/options do you agree with?

Option 1, of course. The best option in the list.

 

[M2u12]

Agrees with option 1

 

[Black-san112]

option1 seems straight forward enough so i agree with it

 

[karo_senpaii]

Option 2 sounds better to me

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think either Option 1 or 2 sound okay with me so far. Haven't fully decided yet and may come back later to pick depending on how other feedback turns out.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I think either Option 1 or 2 sound okay with me so far. Haven't fully decided yet and may come back later to pick depending on how other feedback turns out.

Great, can I put you down for both for now?
(also bump)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump (I'm genuinely tweaking)

 

[Yeolban]

damn

 

[Success0906]

Bump (I'm genuinely tweaking)

Skill issue, nothing more.

 

[NemesisZorX]

I'm a simple man, any upgrade in TGHverse, I agree.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump (the joys of scaling a verse with no staff supporters)

 

[Yeolban]

did you try messaging more staff members or something idk

 

[DavidTPPM]

did you try messaging more staff members or something idk

Yeah like 6 or 7 in total

 

[Yeolban]

it's cooked

 

[karo_senpaii]

No GOH mods?

 

[DavidTPPM]

No GOH mods?

No active ones. You can try to hit up some staff to check out this thread if you want to help tho (I already tried everyone I knew)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Raaaah I'm going insane raaaaaah

(bump)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[Success0906]

Bro, this is Joever. Start a new!

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bro, this is Joever. Start a new!

Help and go ping staff to check this thread as well, if enough of us annoy them they have to come

 

[Success0906]

Help and go ping staff to check this thread as well, if enough of us annoy them they have to come

Or they will report us for spamming.

 

[Success0906]

But your wish is my command, my good sir.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Or they will report us for spamming.

I mean, I'm sorry but this thread has been waiting for staff in total almost an entire month. Supporters agreed on everything and the stuff the thread is about is super simple
(literally just stated values).

Vs thread rules outright tell us to participate in match ups involving lesser known verses but when I actually try to improve a lesser known verse I get ignored.

 

[Success0906]

I mean, I'm sorry but this thread has been waiting for staff in total almost an entire month. Supporters agreed on everything and the stuff the thread is about is super simple
(literally just stated values).

Vs thread rules outright tell us to participate in match ups involving lesser known verses but when I actually try to improve a lesser known verse I get ignored.

As a man once said, "Ramen is best when eaten hot." How does it relate to this conversation? It doesn't, deal with it.

 

[Success0906]

I mean, I'm sorry but this thread has been waiting for staff in total almost an entire month. Supporters agreed on everything and the stuff the thread is about is super simple
(literally just stated values).

Vs thread rules outright tell us to participate in match ups involving lesser known verses but when I actually try to improve a lesser known verse I get ignored.

I have contacted some staffs, but don't think they will come anytime soon.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I have contacted some staffs,

Thank you

but don't think they will come anytime soon.

I'm not even tweaking at this point, I'm just depressed

 

[Success0906]

I'm not even tweaking at this point, I'm just depressed

GOH is dying and there is nothing I can do. Insert: Atlantis we fall music

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[Armorchompy]

Was asked to check, gonna give my opinions, i know nothing about this goku guy or whatever he's called

Mori Jin in his base form damages Ardun using a triple kick. The triple kick is stated to triple the damage of a single attack meaning base Mori here should scale up to 1/3 of Arduns durability. This upgrades base Mori to low 5-B (via accelerated development).

i wouldn't say this is a x3 multiplier tbh, it's two kicks doing "two to three" times the damage which means that at a low end it's just getting kicked twice, and at a high end only the second kick is inflicting double damage

Mori Hui is then stated to have 5-60% of Mori Jins power. This means he should be upgraded to 5% of Mori Jins base power (also low 5-B)

This statement is weird as hell NGL. "I'm 5-60% of his power, but only when i'm going all out, so that means i'm a bit less than 50%". Where does get on his own feats/other scaling?

Mira and Daewi grow in power mid fight and scale above people who tanked a kick from 8x Jeabongchim Mori Hui meaning they should be upgraded to that level (also low 5-B).

To put it simply, base Mori gets upgraded to 1/3 of Arduns durability. Hui gets upgraded to 5% of Moris AP/dura. Mira and Daewi get upgraded to 8x base Huis AP/dura.

Sure

@BeTheWay1rst has brought up the issue that Ardun might have been weakened when Mori did so, as his body was already cracking. This isn't a defeater since as we've discussed in the original thread, Arduns durability mainly comes from the fact that his skin is made up of Barbadium - the strongest metal in heaven. Meaning him being weakened should not weaken his durability.

If it was cracking that could have compromised the skin's structural integrity, if it's a metal. Though without knowing the greater context I don't really know if I'd consider that evidence against scaling or not.

 

[Yeolban]

if it's a metal.

David said it's a metal, but it's only regarded as "the hardest substance in Heaven and can be inhabited by souls". We don't know what it is exactly, we only know of weapons, armor or... bodies made out of it. Armor that looks like straight up just clothes. (literally the most durable armor in the series too)

i know nothing about this goku guy or whatever he's called

goku guy...

 

[DavidTPPM]

i wouldn't say this is a x3 multiplier tbh, it's two kicks doing "two to three" times the damage which means that at a low end it's just getting kicked twice, and at a high end only the second kick is inflicting double damage

I mean, kinda? Given the way the kick works and that we have no evidence 1x or 2x the damage is enough to harm Ardun I just felt like going with the lower end for the feat (higher end for the multiplier) is the safer option.

This statement is weird as hell NGL. "I'm 5-60% of his power, but only when i'm going all out, so that means i'm a bit less than 50%". Where does get on his own feats/other scaling?

5-60% is a wide gap because it depends on the distance from the original. When Hui gets closer to the original Mori, he can use more of his power for longer periods of time but when they're further away he's restricted to 5-60% normally, or 100% for short periods of time.

The distance between him and the original remains the same after this statement except for few times when it temporary became shorter (due to portals between them opening) so he might actually be more than 5%, but again since we don't have any evidence that he IS above those 5 it's probably best to use the lower end.

Scaling his own feats is difficult since he's constantly improving himself while the original is also training 24/7, and most of the opponents he fights don't have any established scaling except for few less powerful which he dogwalks.

If it was cracking that could have compromised the skin's structural integrity, if it's a metal. Though without knowing the greater context I don't really know if I'd consider that evidence against scaling or not.

Even if it were to compromise it's structural identity, it shouldn't be to such a level where it loses all of its durability.
Ardun has no sold attacks from Yeoui which completely obliterated his hammer mid swing (with the hammer itself being the source of the 5-B value), meaning he massively upscales from the base value.

So I really doubt Arduns stomach being cracked should realistically lower the durability of his face to such a level that he Mori can finish him off despite not scaling anywhere near him.

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean, kinda? Given the way the kick works and that we have no evidence 1x or 2x the damage is enough to harm Ardun I just felt like going with the lower end for the feat (higher end for the multiplier) is the safer option.

5-60% is a wide gap because it depends on the distance from the original. When Hui gets closer to the original Mori, he can use more of his power for longer periods of time but when they're further away he's restricted to 5-60% normally, or 100% for short periods of time.

The distance between him and the original remains the same after this statement except for few times when it temporary became shorter (due to portals between them opening) so he might actually be more than 5%, but again since we don't have any evidence that he IS above those 5 it's probably best to use the lower end.

Scaling his own feats is difficult since he's constantly improving himself while the original is also training 24/7, and most of the opponents he fights don't have any established scaling except for few less powerful which he dogwalks.

Even if it were to compromise it's structural identity, it shouldn't be to such a level where it loses all of its durability.
Ardun has no sold attacks from Yeoui which completely obliterated his hammer mid swing (with the hammer itself being the source of the 5-B value), meaning he massively upscales from the base value.

So I really doubt Arduns stomach being cracked should realistically lower the durability of his face to such a level that he Mori can finish him off despite not scaling anywhere near him.

i guess that's fair? I think either option 1 or 2 is fine, I don't see anything that seems too wrong here.

 

[DavidTPPM]

i guess that's fair? I think either option 1 or 2 is fine, I don't see anything that seems too wrong here.

Great, I'll put you down for both options then.
Thank you for your time

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Based on what I'm reading above, option 1 should honestly be fine.

Given this doesn't seem particularly controversial, I think with my input this can be considered accepted.