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The God of High School Discussion Thread 4: Post-Anime Apocalypse
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because i think "recoiless" is not just "a concept that can be applied to any martial art"
But is also a skill that Reached "concept" level
(i know that "recoiless" this is not skill but I don't know how to explain it Without using the word "skill")
because i think In this fiction a concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills
evidence
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In short, as Commissioner T explain what is The true power of Wolgwang Sword Style such as combining hard and soft together, Don't just focus only on power, etc
This is similar to "recoiless" in that it can be applied to any technique or skill.
And it should even be considered a concept or principle too, do to the common sense,
Commissioner T set said Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style "ABILITY" correctly, And the word "ABILITY" can also be a synonym for the word "SKILL" too
Based on is
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which i think in this case which Commissioner T explain that,
"Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style 'ABILITY' correctly"
There's a chance that it could mean
"Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style 'SKILL' correctly" because of the synonym
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"ULTIMATE" is come from DON'T SCATTER A ENERGY, don't LOSE ENERGY EVEN A DROP, CONCENTRATE ENERGY INTO ONE POINT, PERFECT USE OF ALL POWER,
A PRECISE AND STRONG PUNCH WITHOUT USING ANY IRRELEVANT MUSCLES, NOT TOO FAST... NOT TOO SLOW... APPROACH AT NATURAL SPEED
This is also similar to "recoiless" in that it can be applied to "FOUR GUARDIANS" technique.
And it should even be considered a concept or principle too, do to the common sense too.
and yet Daewi Han MASTER is saying that THE "ULTIMATE" is a "SKILL".
and yet the word "SKILL" can also be a synonym for the word "technique" too Based on is
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because of My evidence that has been said that in-universe concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills
My idea is
https://imgur.com/a/TigNvxB
Mori jin said that "recoilless" is neither a skill nor a technique
But it's a straightforward "concept "
And "in-universe concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills"
so why is "recoilless" is not a "concept level skill"
(I spend about 3-4 hours writing because English is not my native language, and if there are any language errors, especially synonyms, I apologize. I hope you recognize my effort.)
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Let me first ask you, wtf is "concept level"? That doesn't really make much sense.
because i think In this fiction a concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills
evidence
1.
In short, as Commissioner T explain what is The true power of Wolgwang Sword Style such as combining hard and soft together, Don't just focus only on power, etc
This is similar to "recoiless" in that it can be applied to any technique or skill.
And it should even be considered a concept or principle too, do to the common sense,
Commissioner T set said Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style "ABILITY" correctly, And the word "ABILITY" can also be a synonym for the word "SKILL" too
Based on is
Definition of ABILITY
the quality or state of being able; especially : physical, mental, or legal power to do something; competence in doing something : skill; natural aptitude or acquired proficiency… See the full definitionDictionary.com | Meanings & Definitions of English Words
The world's leading online dictionary: English definitions, synonyms, word origins, example sentences, word games, and more. A trusted authority for 25+ years!ability
1. the physical or mental power or skill needed to do something: 2. used to…Thesaurus results for ABILITY
Synonyms for ABILITY: capability, capacity, faculty, skill, talent, aptitude, capableness, competence; Antonyms of ABILITY: inability, disability, incapacity, incapability, incompetence, incompetency, ineptitude, ineptness
which i think in this case which Commissioner T explain that,
"Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style 'ABILITY' correctly"
There's a chance that it could mean
"Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style 'SKILL' correctly" because of the synonym
Honestly this has like, 0 correlation with recoiless. Out of all the people you picked Mira who didn't canonically achieve recoiless
Yeah, so? Recoiless is the idea of not wasting any energy and using an attack with maximum efficiency. That's why it can be applied to something like the 4 guardians, because it's not limited to a single skill.
Depends on the context.
Yes recoiless is a concept. Recoiless ATTACKS aren't conceptual, recoiless itself is a concept. Because a concept is an idea.
I already explained this before and nothing you said neither contradicted my explanation nor did it help with the idea that Moris kicks are conceptual.
Mori thought a recoiless kick is a single ability. Something like the kick of imoogi. Just a unique special kick that does something cool. But he realized that it's not just a single kick. Against Dean he found out you can make ANY skill recoiless if you completely master it.
Because there's no such thing as a "concept level skill". There's no way to explain this in a more simple way than I already did.
Yeah no problem with the English ig. It's not my native language either.
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I think I’m starting to understand now, because at first, I thought that "Recoiless" was about moving the body so well that it became a conceptual level.
How can I explain this? For example, an attack that doesn't lose energy might be considered a skill. But "Recoiless" isn't a skill anymore, and Mori Jin explained that it's a concept. At first, I thought he moved his body so perfectly that it went beyond the word "skill" and became a concept by perfect body movement.
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To be honest, I'm still not fully convinced that Rcl isn't a conceptual movement. I feel like I have another argument that can be made. However, If I annoy you too much, I'm willing to stop asking about rcl.
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After I started rethinking, I believe that to answer this question, it probably has to do with Dean Ockham and the use of his RCL.
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This might be a little funny. But does anyone think that Satan should get nep 1 because He didn't die from having his core element torn out of him.
If I understand correctly this means that Satan, in this state, well not have Mind and Will, Body, Soul, Information, Concept
If my understanding of nep is not wrong, I think this will be enough to get nep 1.
If I understand correctly this means that Satan, in this state, well not have Mind and Will, Body, Soul, Information, Concept
If my understanding of nep is not wrong, I think this will be enough to get nep 1.
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sunshine
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Bro just had to bring an example like that
sunshine
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One thing, a "concept" isn't defined as an idea solely, you can define it as such, but that's not the only definition that can be applied to the word "concept" based on the semantical meaning conveyed. But in this context, it was most probably used as "an idea" so yeah, even then if it wasn't, it doesn't change much, that's all, have a nice day mr.mouselookingsatanpfp (I love you
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because i think "recoiless" is not just "a concept that can be applied to any martial art"
But is also a skill that Reached "concept" level
(i know that "recoiless" this is not skill but I don't know how to explain it Without using the word "skill")
because i think In this fiction a concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills
evidence
1.
In short, as Commissioner T explain what is The true power of Wolgwang Sword Style such as combining hard and soft together, Don't just focus only on power, etc
This is similar to "recoiless" in that it can be applied to any technique or skill.
And it should even be considered a concept or principle too, do to the common sense,
Commissioner T set said Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style "ABILITY" correctly, And the word "ABILITY" can also be a synonym for the word "SKILL" too
Based on is
Definition of ABILITY
the quality or state of being able; especially : physical, mental, or legal power to do something; competence in doing something : skill; natural aptitude or acquired proficiency… See the full definitionDictionary.com | Meanings & Definitions of English Words
The world's leading online dictionary: English definitions, synonyms, word origins, example sentences, word games, and more. A trusted authority for 25+ years!ability
1. the physical or mental power or skill needed to do something: 2. used to…Thesaurus results for ABILITY
Synonyms for ABILITY: capability, capacity, faculty, skill, talent, aptitude, capableness, competence; Antonyms of ABILITY: inability, disability, incapacity, incapability, incompetence, incompetency, ineptitude, ineptness
which i think in this case which Commissioner T explain that,
"Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style 'ABILITY' correctly"
There's a chance that it could mean
"Yoo Mira don't use Wolgwang Sword Style 'SKILL' correctly" because of the synonym
2.
"ULTIMATE" is come from DON'T SCATTER A ENERGY, don't LOSE ENERGY EVEN A DROP, CONCENTRATE ENERGY INTO ONE POINT, PERFECT USE OF ALL POWER,
A PRECISE AND STRONG PUNCH WITHOUT USING ANY IRRELEVANT MUSCLES, NOT TOO FAST... NOT TOO SLOW... APPROACH AT NATURAL SPEED
This is also similar to "recoiless" in that it can be applied to "FOUR GUARDIANS" technique.
And it should even be considered a concept or principle too, do to the common sense too.
and yet Daewi Han MASTER is saying that THE "ULTIMATE" is a "SKILL".
and yet the word "SKILL" can also be a synonym for the word "technique" too Based on is
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/skill.htmlThesaurus.com - The world's favorite online thesaurus!
Thesaurus.com is the world’s largest and most trusted online thesaurus for 25+ years. Join millions of people and grow your mastery of the English language.
because of My evidence that has been said that in-universe concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills
My idea is
Mori jin said that "recoilless" is neither a skill nor a technique
But it's a straightforward "concept "
And "in-universe concept or principle can still be counted as techniques or skills"
so why is "recoilless" is not a "concept level skill"
(I spend about 3-4 hours writing because English is not my native language, and if there are any language errors, especially synonyms, I apologize. I hope you recognize my effort.)
Common sense isn't always good and justifiable during a definition, because it's, well, "common". Sometimes it can very much be distorted by biases due to it being common, and used in a colloquial way, I don't think we should apply non-rigorous concepts like that just to justify it being a concept. Furthermore, a principle and a concept are interchangeable as you use colloquially, but not formally. (I feel like a philosophy professor).
(U used a lot of dictionaries which showed unclear and common definitions which can be used in many different ways, so it's not enough justification, a "SKILL" can be synonymous with "Technique" but not in all cases)
sunshine
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As david said, this sentence has no semantic meaning lol, wtf is "concept level"?
sunshine
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And also as he precisely pointed out, it depends on the context, VERY much so. (Sorry for replying to u in chunks and not once, sorry my little pookie)
sunshine
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I'm sorry but I forgot what NEP is.
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That's fair.
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Yeah since u were trying to argue Conceptual Manipulation via that, the definition of that "principle" needs to be formal, and there's no evidence of that being the case.
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I think the problem is that I interpret the meaning of the "concept" in RCL differently from others.
And I think I might have a way to explain why I interpret it that way, but I don't have enough brain power to do it right now.
Therefore, if I haven't talked about this for a long time and suddenly bring it up again, don't be surprised.
Wow, ChatGPT can help translate so much!
And I think I might have a way to explain why I interpret it that way, but I don't have enough brain power to do it right now.
Therefore, if I haven't talked about this for a long time and suddenly bring it up again, don't be surprised.
Wow, ChatGPT can help translate so much!
sunshine
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Non existent physiology?
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Questions about NEP 1,2 and 3
I want to ask about Nonexistence Physiology, please don't explain it to the concept of binary numbers. From what I understand NEP 1&2 have a similar explanation, "Exist" and "not existing" at the same time, what I understand is like "a living nothingness" NEP 1 is a condition where a character...
I just read this and I thought it might apply to Satan as wel
Yes
sunshine
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I'm gonna be completely honest, I agree, he should get at least NEP 1Questions about NEP 1,2 and 3
I want to ask about Nonexistence Physiology, please don't explain it to the concept of binary numbers. From what I understand NEP 1&2 have a similar explanation, "Exist" and "not existing" at the same time, what I understand is like "a living nothingness" NEP 1 is a condition where a character...vsbattles.com
I just read this and I thought it might apply to Satan as wel
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yes yes
Success0906
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Nah, it will fall into type 3 if it's accepted. But I can see it happening. A lot of verses have hax that don't have direct statements but have feats. (I am looking at you, Wang.)
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Success0906
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Cuz he still exists in the conventional sense.
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Goodnight
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I think it doesn't match the description of NEP 3 and should be NEP 1 instead.Goodnight
1, Satan do not "still exist, but paradoxically behave as if they don't when attacked."
2. Satan are not "immune to regular mind manipulation."
3. by principle, Satan do not exist in the "conventional sense" because the core element, which contains "Mind and Will, Body, Soul, Information, Concept," has been removed.
What I want to say is that there is nothing indicating that Satan are "paradoxically nonexistent."
Therefore, I think it doesn't fit with NEP 3.
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I am pretty sure it would just be limited then, like Yui and Abigail. Or it will just fall into resistance, since Satan doesn't usually exist Non-existently. Just like true dragons who don't need their core to exist, and are given type 1 concept resistance.
Satan will have type 3 concept and type 2 info hax.
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"Limited nep1" ? Is this what you're trying to say Right?
Interesting.
I know this won't happen any time soon, but just as an example, if Satan were to have nep1, what reasoning would you use to say that Satan nep1 is "limited"
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What reasoning would you provide to say he is Nonexistent, anyway? At most, we can give him limited NEP or just resistance.
And to answer your question, my logic is pretty simple. Satan doesn't exist Non-existently normally, so he won't have a solid NEP.
Either way, Satan does not get solid NEP.
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Just look at the examples I have given.
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Having a concept and then having the concept ripped out of you but continuing to still live and exist isn't Nonexistent Physiology. The concept isn't nonexistent, it just isn't there because it was taken. It's like how characters who don't have souls because of the mechanics of their series don't get Nonexistent Physiology on their souls. Nonexistent Physiology isn't about not having something, it's about how the thing you have is composed of some sort of nothingness or void; it's there but it doesn't conventionally exist.
Success0906
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Exactly! You get the point.
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It wouldn't be limited either, lacking something =/= it being nonexistent.
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It would at least grant resistance, right? Since he can exist without his concept. Or just more justification on immortality regarding this?
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Like I said, it should be similar to how series that don't have souls are treated.
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I see.
Success0906
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That's great!
