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is this match still valid to be added or?
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Lol, since when?Well tbh, Wally probably just has better upscaling. While Sonic may just attack Solaris before the latter can react, Flash has numerously moved so fast immeasurable speed brings can’t see him at all.
Since always. When did Sonic ever appear invisible to someone immeasurable?Lol, since when?
No clue to be honest, this match has just ended up like every other Sonic vs Flash debate, no one can agree on any feats for either of the characters so it turns into a 3 page arguement.is this match still valid to be added or?
Sonic is like in top 3 of Immeasurable characters so.Since always. When did Sonic ever appear invisible to someone immeasurable?
Sonic is like in top 3 of Immeasurable characters so.
And?For now
wdym and?And?
Again how, just some upscaling, many people have it. He never appeared invisible to anyone immeasurable unlike wallySonic is like in top 3 of Immeasurable characters so.
looking it up online “going so fast you look invisible” is hard to quantify as it depends on a lot of factors, although really Sonic being like x4 faster then Blitzing would probably already be above most numbers people give, not even accounting the other x4 and various other speed ampsAgain how, just some upscaling, many people have it. He never appeared invisible to anyone immeasurable unlike wally
I literally said he did exactly that to Soalris.Again how, just some upscaling, many people have it. He never appeared invisible to anyone immeasurable unlike wally
Sure, but they certainly can blitz him in a way he can't even do that, since in many other cases, he can't react to them at allnot relavant at all but i saw solaris reacting to some of the blizes
lmao nah that was a good summary.
Continue please
Eh wouldn't "many" be within the same ballpark enough to not be a one-shot?Sonic one-shotting wasn’t disproven so it can be added
Given that Hyper Sonic is the highest 2-C on the site to my knowledge and has a huge scaling chain on that tier probably not without evidenceEh wouldn't "many" be within the same ballpark enough to not be a one-shot?
Well, then the battle would be erased later. I don't mind adding it now and erasing it laterWell still y'all still didn't account for his mental state. Whatever that 2-C key ain't gonna be on Wally's page for long anymore.
Well still y'all still didn't account for his mental state. Whatever that 2-C key ain't gonna be on Wally's page for long anymore.
Dude, I already said, blitzing does not equal literally appearing invisible to someone. If anyone’s ignoring arguments, that’s not me. It’s very well possible to perceive your opponent easily, but still not react to him, which would be even harder in solaris’s case since Sonic is much smaller than himI literally said he did exactly that to Soalris.
Each of the hedgehogs can blitz him from far away before Soalris can even process what's going on, let alone actually seeing them coming when they attack
Dissapearing from somebody's sight is just a basic blitzing feat, so no, that isn't superior to Super Sonic blitzing Solaris in any way
The arguments are there. It's you who just decides to ignore it. Not your first time either
You can very easily dissapear from someone's view if you're small enough in comparison to him, and the hedgehogs are very small compared to Solaris.Dude, I already said, blitzing does not equal literally appearing invisible to someone. If anyone’s ignoring arguments, that’s not me. It’s very well possible to perceive your opponent easily, but still not react to him, which would be even harder in solaris’s case since Sonic is much smaller than him
Disappearing from view does could easily be you running away and person not having time to turn his head, running FTE mean you can literally move so fast a person won't notice you were there at all, which certainly wasn't the case with solarisYou can very easily dissapear from someone's view if you're small enough in comparison to him, and the hedgehogs are very small compared to Solaris.
Using that and their ability to utterly blitz him from very far away, they would have no problem dissapearing from Solaris' view the same way a fly can easily dissapear from your view
So its sonic who always goes immeasurable?looking it up online “going so fast you look invisible” is hard to quantify as it depends on a lot of factors, although really Sonic being like x4 faster then Blitzing would probably already be above most numbers people give, not even accounting the other x4 and various other speed amps
unless there’s some way to quantify it I’m not sure I can just standardly assume it’s higher
besides, Flash isn’t always immeasurable ether going by the profile, is there evidence this post-crisis Wally was in the immeasurable state?
Fighting and blitzing a temporally omnipresent being who attacks and reacts at all points of time and can only be hurt by fighting them in all points in time, along with Super Silver and Super Shadow who did the same thingSo its sonic who always goes immeasurable?
What feat even makes sonic immeasurable?
Scan of Wally fighting a temporal omnipresent person? Was it in Death Metal? Or are you talking about the speed force feat?Same as wally in his franchise.
Bruhmoment^2Dude, I already said, blitzing does not equal literally appearing invisible to someone. If anyone’s ignoring arguments, that’s not me. It’s very well possible to perceive your opponent easily, but still not react to him, which would be even harder in solaris’s case since Sonic is much smaller than him
I meant fastest in his franchiseScan of Wally fighting a temporal omnipresent person? Was it in Death Metal? Or are you talking about the speed force feat?
Not saying he is slower than Sonic, but that's news to me.
I'm sorry, are you serious. Not reacting does not equal to perceiving someone as invisible. Peak humans can blitz average humans, despite not being invisible to them at all
THat literally just makes the feat less impressive. Humans are significantly faster than flies and it's their acrobatics and tiny size that makes them hard to see. Wally is the same size as superman and the like and vanished to the views of ALL of them.You can very easily dissapear from someone's view if you're small enough in comparison to him, and the hedgehogs are very small compared to Solaris.
Using that and their ability to utterly blitz him from very far away, they would have no problem dissapearing from Solaris' view the same way a fly can easily dissapear from your view
no point now the match has already been added and doneTHat literally just makes the feat less impressive. Humans are significantly faster than flies and it's their acrobatics and tiny size that makes them hard to see. Wally is the same size as superman and the like and vanished to the views of ALL of them.
Anyway Wally for Lunge's reasons
Tbh, doesn't really matter, as speed is equalized and Sonic punching Wally is more likely than Wally speed stealingI mean I did give reasons for Wally’s immeasurable being better. Sadly Shake waltzed over them without arguing against it.
It is equal thoSpeed’s unequal… that’s why everyone is bringing up Sonic being faster
It's over?no point now the match has already been added and done