The Emperor of Man VS Bernkastel

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Holy Emprah


Badass wizard made up of countless human souls VS Cute Kitty

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Is this Bern like...extremely restricted, or something?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Should I replace her with beatrice?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

It depends entirely on what level you're trying to portray them as being on, for the fight. If this is full power, then it doesn't really matter.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Pretty sure Bern is on Nyarlathotep level.

She destroys the Emprah.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Heresy

 

[Wokistan]

Chaos Gods, emprah, and ynnead really aren't all that far into 1A. They're not going to be competing with the likes of umineko, Masada, and Lovecraft.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Pretty sure Bern is on Nyarlathotep level.

She destroys the Emprah.

"Bern" isn't. What she represents probably is. The same way the Nyarlathotep we see isn't the true thing. But this is semantics.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I don't think 1-A entities even have "forms"

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Pretty sure Bern is on Nyarlathotep level.

She destroys the Emprah.

"Bern" isn't. What she represents probably is. The same way the Nyarlathotep we see isn't the true thing. But this is semantics.

Ah....

 

[DarkLK]

I don't think 1-A entities even have "forms"

They can have some metaphysical metaphorical analogues of "forms". At least from their own perspectives.

 

[ArceusBowser44]

Pretty sure Bern is on Nyarlathotep level.
She destroys the Emprah.

Bernkastel as a loli witch that can manifests in the Domain of Humans/Domain of Witches probably isn't as strong as Nya.

However, Bernkastel's true unconscious manifestation is easily stronger than Nya, as not only she exists as a fundamental law of the world connected to the Creator, but also exists at top of each layer at the same time, and constantly evolves to the point that she seeks the path to the Creator and travels trough the endless staircase to reach the Creator. (However, like the other Voyagers, she understands what means becoming a Creator, and she is afraid of that, and because of that she limit herself).

Basically, while Bernkastel, as a Voyager, limit herself because she's afraid of becoming a Creator (creating the loli witches of the Domain of Witches that can interact with kakeras and enter in them,acting as a spectator of the game), however, her law work and manifest everywhere, their unconscious nature cover basically everything: Domain of Witches and the Domain of Humans. In fact, her law isn't limited, Bernkastel's unconscious nature effects the Domain of Witches and Humans, regardless of their will.

 

[DarkLK]

Honestly, I do not even understand how we can evaluate faceless meta-concepts as "weaker" or "stronger". "Yog-Sothoth" will not be able to destroy "Nyarlathotep" even if he is far "stronger". In the case of comparing such things, we can only compare their role for the Creation. For example, Yog-Sothoth is simply a composite archetype, which includes all the other archetypes. "Yog-Sothoth" is stronger than other Gods just like a building is stronger than a brick from this building.

 

[ArceusBowser44]

To be honest, i agree with that. It makes sense.

Basically, the other archetypes are like "branches" of the main tree (Yog-Sothot). I hope i'm not saying something stupid since i don't know about Cthulhu Mythos, but considering the way you described Yog-Sothot, the other archetypes are basically like atoms that together construct the main cell (Yog-Sothot).

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Dark

Basically this. Things at this level do not fight, have conflict, compare power levels, etc. They do not really create or destroy because all things are as they always will be at all times. They simply "are", because any sort of action/effect is an illusion below their "true" state.