The Eminence In Shadow: Few Additions

[Zefra3011]

This plans to add abilities/feats to Cid's profile and the Magic Users' Abilities.

I made a blog explaining the changes. I believe they are more organised and easier to check this way.

Cid's additions

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[TheHyperGuy]

Seems reasonable, would the regeneration Negation apply to a specific level? Seems like for low-mid at most. Which is debatable.

 

[Zefra3011]

Seems reasonable, would the regeneration Negation apply to a specific level? Seems like for low-mid at most. Which is debatable.

It seems to more generally prevent cuts from reattaching, rather than negating a specific level of regen. If a Number bisects a creature, she can simply put slime into it, preventing any quick reattachment.

It's also not really a complete negation, but rather it slows it down significantly, but said regeneration won't have any efficiency mid-fight.

 

[Vietthai96]

Are we even allowed to use Game???

• Limited Resistance to Sleep Manipulation & Poison Manipulation (One's quantity of mana showed to reduce the impact certain effects have on the user. Relatively weak characters showed to reduce the effects of a sleep inducing gas from a life time to an unknown but short time frame<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zefra3011/Cid's_additions#cite_note-Volume_5-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>. Magic grants a similar resistance against poison<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zefra3011/Cid's_additions#cite_note-Volume_5-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>)

The first scan says that the gas is potent against people with little magic, so it isn't completely what you claimed. The second scan look like it specifically mean Cid only, not general magic users

The rest seems fine, I guess.

 

[Zefra3011]

Are we even allowed to use Game???

Yes, from the verse page:

Canon​

The Light Novel is considered the main canon, followed by The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories from the Game which adds contents that are missing in the LN. Manga and Web Novel (only up to Chapter 142) can be used as long as they follow the LN and only adds details to better scale feats from the serie. The Anime should be avoided completely as it has too many differences compared to any other canon, changing feats, fights and the setting, contradicting the original work many times. (See here)

(At this point, the game has the same quantity of content as the LN ngl)

The first scan says that the gas is potent against people with little magic, so it isn't completely what you claimed.

In the scan, the character is talking to another who was put to sleep by that same gas and has just woken up. I can see it wasn't clear. I corrected the justification below.

The second scan look like it specifically mean Cid only, not general magic users

I wanted to keep it simple. Other characters can resist instant-death poison (V2), and instead of dying, they get unconscious for some time (SSC 45), because they are "strong enough". With Cid resisting it completely.

I'll try to make a better justification. I believe your criticism is valid.

One's quantity of mana is shown to mitigate the impact certain effects have on the user. Against a sleep-inducing gas, characters with little mana are stated to sleep forever, while stronger characters are shown to only sleep for an unknown but relatively short time; strong characters like Nina are capable of resisting it completely. Similar circumstances have been shown against an instant-kill toxin, where weak characters are described to die in an earthbeat, while stronger only fall unconscious for some time, and Cid specifically can resist it completely.

The rest seems fine, I guess.

Thanks for checking, I really appreciate.

 

[Vietthai96]

Yes, from the verse page:

Is there a CRT to add this?. Or it was already there when the verse was added to the wiki?

But well, since it was already on the page

Limited Regeneration Negation (It's possible to greatly reduce one's healing by applying slime on their wounds, preventing them from closing properly<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ite_note-Seven_Shadow_Chronicles_Chapter_43-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>)

This isn't regeneration negation. The slime just spread within the wound, slowing down its "closing", this is the weakness of the wound closing regeneration

In order to get regeneration negation, you need to actually affect your opponent innate regeneration and hindering it

Damage Boost (Can time his breathing with his movements<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._note-Seven_Shadows_Chronicles:_Chapter_24-12"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a> in order to release much more energy<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._note-Seven_Shadows_Chronicles:_Chapter_24-12"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>. Delta, after mimicking this technique, was able to take down with a single hit beasts she couldn't beat otherwise<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._note-Seven_Shadows_Chronicles:_Chapter_37-13"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a>, thus Cid should be capable of doing the same)

Tbh i don't see this as Damage Boost since look like Cid has some fighting technique allows him to release more energy in the strike. Hmm, at best this is Limited Damage Boost to me

I wanted to keep it simple. Other characters can resist instant-death poison (V2), and instead of dying, they get unconscious for some time (SSC 45), because they are "strong enough". With Cid resisting it completely.

I'll try to make a better justification. I believe your criticism is valid.

New justification is oke i guess

The rest is fine

 

[Zefra3011]

Is there a CRT to add this?. Or it was already there when the verse was added to the wiki?

But well, since it was already on the page

I made a CRT. It adds the game as canon and removes the anime from such.

The Eminence In Shadow: Canon

Soooooooo since my plan is to rework The Eminence In Shadow's profiles (Spoiler, still working on this) I think it's good to set some rules for what we consider canon, because right now the profile use LN, Manga and Anime without any real rule. Proposal: Main canon: Light Novel and Game...

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This isn't regeneration negation. The slime just spread within the wound, slowing down its "closing", this is the weakness of the wound closing regeneration

In order to get regeneration negation, you need to actually affect your opponent innate regeneration and hindering it

I thought that "Limited" would have already covered this. If not, it's fine, I'll just list it under some "Special Technique" since it's still worth mentioning that they can do this.

Tbh i don't see this as Damage Boost since look like Cid has some fighting technique allows him to release more energy in the strike. Hmm, at best this is Limited Damage Boost to me

I don't mind it, sure. I'll also change Delta's profile since she has the same thing then.

New justification is oke i guess

The rest is fine

Thanks

EDIT: I changed the blog accordingly

 

[Vietthai96]

I thought that "Limited" would have already covered this. If not, it's fine, I'll just list it under some "Special Technique" since it's still worth mentioning that they can do this.

Yeah, because it isn't really an ability, it is just an exploit to the regeneration weakness. It is like you have a wound, then you put something into it to make the wound unable to close due to something block the skin from closing the wound

Put it in Special Technique is okay, you can also put it in Intelligence section too, since this pretty much exploit weakness feat

EDIT: I changed the blog accordingly

There is two broken references, anything else is fine

 

[Zefra3011]

Yeah, because it isn't really an ability, it is just an exploit to the regeneration weakness. It is like you have a wound, then you put something into it to make the wound unable to close due to something block the skin from closing the wound

Put it in Special Technique is okay, you can also put it in Intelligence section too, since this pretty much exploit weakness feat

Fair enough.

Will do.

There is two broken references, anything else is fine

Thanks, corrected it.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

bump

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Agree as well

 

[XxZetsuxX]

bump

 

[Reiner04]

I am fine with Viet's evaluation.

 

[Zefra3011]

I am fine with Viet's evaluation.

Thanks for checking.

I'll apply this right away.