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Soooooooo since my plan is to rework The Eminence In Shadow's profiles (Spoiler, still working on this) I think it's good to set some rules for what we consider canon, because right now the profile use LN, Manga and Anime without any real rule.
Proposal:
Main canon: Light Novel and Game
Secondary canon: Manga and Web Novel (up to chapter 142)
Not usable: Anime
Reasons:
I believe we should also add a note on the verse page describing what we consider canon:
Also, since I plan to rework each profile, starting from Cid's one as I showed you above, I won't touch anything right now after this revision, I'll make the necessary edits with the new profiles.
Proposal:
Main canon: Light Novel and Game
Secondary canon: Manga and Web Novel (up to chapter 142)
Not usable: Anime
Reasons:
Self evident, it's the main story
The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories show us events between the creation of the Shadow Garden (When Cid was 10) and the main events of the Light Novel. The light Novel basically skips anything that happens before Cid turns 15, only showing us when he first meets Alpha (First chapter of the V1) and forms the Shadow Garden and a small part when they turn 13 (Second chapter of the V1), after he directly skips when they turn 15, it also showed very few backstories from some characters in the later volumes but that's it, most of the events are unknown. The game actually shows us these events, for example, in the LN we have Alpha explaining us how Cid was able to defeat the Mist Dragon (V2) but we never saw it actually happening, well, the game actually provides with the story of that battle. The author also mentioned how he checked all The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories stories and even wrote some himself (V5 afterwords), even telling us that said story effectively complete the main narrative, the LN, (V6 afterwords) as I explained above.
So given The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories are meant to complete the original work, which doesn't display more than the 2% of what happens in five years, and they are either supervised or, even better, are directly written by the author, I believe the game should be considered almost as canon as the LN; unless there are clear contradictions in some scene for whatever reason, of course, in that case that scene won't be used and that's it.
And just to make sure, only The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories should be considered canon, as they are the only one confirmed to be so, not other silly stories game event-only like the one where Cid tries to make Rose and Alexia idols in the school
So given The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories are meant to complete the original work, which doesn't display more than the 2% of what happens in five years, and they are either supervised or, even better, are directly written by the author, I believe the game should be considered almost as canon as the LN; unless there are clear contradictions in some scene for whatever reason, of course, in that case that scene won't be used and that's it.
And just to make sure, only The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories should be considered canon, as they are the only one confirmed to be so, not other silly stories game event-only like the one where Cid tries to make Rose and Alexia idols in the school
This one is simple, the manga adapts the LN and the author mentions how some scene describes the LN even better than the LN itself, meaning he supervises the manga as well, though since it's an adaptation, the LN still takes priority, therefore the manga should be used only for adding details (like visuals since the LN lacks them) and when it doesn't contradict the LN
This one is simple as well, the WN is written by the author as well BUT it changes the story after chapter 142 (V3 afterwords), or V3 for the LN (and I don't even think the author is still working on the WN currently), though up to that chapter the WN is 1:1 with the LN, so it should be good to use as long as it doesn't change the LN, of course.
What's the point of using it tho? Well, even though it's basically identical to the LN some wordings and some details are slightly different and might show us more details.
Some examples:
- In the LN Cid and Elisabeth's attacks are described as having "terrifying speed" which doesn't say much to us, though the WN tell us that those attacks were surpassing the speed of sound, giving us a better understanding of how fast they were fighting. Or when we see the first I AM ATOMIC, in the LN, Zenon has been vaporized, in the WN though it is ulterior specified that he was vaporized and that not even a single atom was left. And for powerscaling purposes having more details of some feats, even if minor, is important. So I believe the WN (up to chapter 142) should be fine to use as long as follows the LN but adds details.
What's the point of using it tho? Well, even though it's basically identical to the LN some wordings and some details are slightly different and might show us more details.
Some examples:
- In the LN Cid and Elisabeth's attacks are described as having "terrifying speed" which doesn't say much to us, though the WN tell us that those attacks were surpassing the speed of sound, giving us a better understanding of how fast they were fighting. Or when we see the first I AM ATOMIC, in the LN, Zenon has been vaporized, in the WN though it is ulterior specified that he was vaporized and that not even a single atom was left. And for powerscaling purposes having more details of some feats, even if minor, is important. So I believe the WN (up to chapter 142) should be fine to use as long as follows the LN but adds details.
Ok, the anime changes way too much form the LN to even think of using it.
I believe I can go on with the stupid differences the anime shows but this should be enough. The anime changes the settings, feats and entire fights contradicting every other canon; it shouldn't even be considered to use for powerscaling purposes.
- The anime adds this scene, which is a good feat on his own, the problem is it's nowhere to be seen in the LN, and stupidly bumps 10 years old Cid to Sub-Rel in literally any speed when in the other works we have transonic to supersonic statements for both travel and combat speed at most, and generally some feats are very exaggerated compared to what is shown in the LN, like punching someone into the space, which is anime only.
- The LN is described to have a medieval setting but in the anime we happen to have trains and other modern items, a more modern setting, all the way up showing silly labs.
- Contradicts V4 of the LN since it adds photo cameras (adaptation V2) and in the LN electricity only comes when Cid and Beta comes back from japan, changing world again, (V4), bringing computer, tablets and other stuff from there.
- The anime also changes tons of fights (for this one I'll use the manga to show the original version so people don't need to read a lot, but they follow the LN). Cid vs Beatrix and iris in the manga and in the anime; Cid vs Elisabeth in the manga and in the anime
- it even adds an entire filler episode, Ep 8 of S2
- and the worst of all, in the fight Cid vs Ragnarock the latter is presented as bat-like beats/demon, cool, why the anime has it as a mecha-like something that can shoot laser? even presenting the I AM ATOMIC of Cid to moving across the solar system while the Light Novel only mention a "world" which in the context is the city they are in, since before it is described as a "small world".
I believe I can go on with the stupid differences the anime shows but this should be enough. The anime changes the settings, feats and entire fights contradicting every other canon; it shouldn't even be considered to use for powerscaling purposes.
I believe we should also add a note on the verse page describing what we consider canon:
The Light Novel is considered the main canon, followed by The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories from the Game which adds contents that are missing in the LN. Manga and Web Novel (only up to Chapter 142) can be used as long as they follow the LN and only adds details to better scale feats from the serie. The Anime should be avoided completely as it has too many differences compared to any other canon, changing feats, fights and the setting, contradicting the original work many times.
Also, since I plan to rework each profile, starting from Cid's one as I showed you above, I won't touch anything right now after this revision, I'll make the necessary edits with the new profiles.
