The Divine Comedy, featuring Dante from Devil May Cry

[Ricsi-viragosi]

First Key Dante

Berith

Incon: 2

1 hour prep time.

Speed Equal

(Around a 3.7 AP advantage for Dante)

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

>2.5 advantage for Dante

He's High 7-C to their 7-C.

Either way, Dante is not getting around Low-High regen.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yes.

Because being 2.5 times stronger than a 7-C can get you to high 7-C.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Dante is not baseline though.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yeah, he is 216 kilotons.


216/2.5=86.4 kilotons

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

No, Dante is above 216 kilotons. I still have to figure out to which extent, because of storm revisions.

Also, why they don't have a + then? I know we accept it only with calcs, but multipliers are acceptable as well.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, you can argue that he has more of an advantage, but doubt it's more than X4 unless asolid calc is there for that.


Your right, I simply forgot them. Sorry.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Apparently Dante is 332,4 kilotons to 490,3 kilotons. Which one is correct, I still have no clue.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Oh, then it's either a 3.7 difference or a 5.5

Tough, it's debatable, as the feat it scales to be above is highly lowballed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I'll remove zagan. he's pretty much a fodder in anything but a saitama style match.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Which Dante is this? DMC3 or DMC1?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

3

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

So, Dante can't beat Low-High regen for sure. How do Berith's Soul Manipulation & Transmutation work?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Transmutation is mode through powderiyed metal thrown at enemies.


Soul Manipulation needs him to pretty much grow metal in an enemy.


His regen likely relies on Mana too, so he can't spam it endlessly.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Does the metal have any effect on the environment? It may be a weird question to ask, but IMO it's important.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It grows these blue things.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

For how long does Berith's regen last?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Here's his fight


Depends on how much he exerts himself, likely hours tough.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Well, Dante can use Quicksilver to blitz Berith and go for Cerberus to incapacitate him. Dunno how likely that is though.

Count me for Inconclusive, I guess. I may think about this more.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not much of an expert. What does cerbeus do exactly?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

It spawns chunks of ice with its attacks. Considering Berith's AP disadvantage, I think he won't be able to break out.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Couldn't he have a piece of metal transform form another body like the clip?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I know absolutely nothing about The Gamer, so I can't tell.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, he created a new body out of a tie clip, so he should be able to.


How long can Dante fight stamina wise?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

From my memory, several hours should be solid. Dante shouldn't exert himself here as much as he did in a fight with Vergil, where he had to rely on his healing factor alongside attacking and dodging.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So as long as he doesn't get stabbed with any metal he can win.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

That's true. But the issue is that Dante is an action game character, so it's hard to figure out what part of his arsenal he is going to use in one case or another. Not saying he's too dumb to understand what he needs to use though.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Hmmm. Doesn't he have in-character shortcuts where he fights seriously?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Yes, but he is not shown to use most of his abilities in them.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

That could just mean that he doesn't use them in-character.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

You'd have to say that for all action games' character, including Bayonetta or Kratos.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If they don't use their powers in a serious fight in a cut-scene, you would say that.

Those are canonical showings of what they do.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

In-fact, weren't bayonetta matches removed because it was OOC for her to do something?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Pretty sure we assume that characters do use their powers throughout the fight, unless the clues hint towards otherwise, like the character being casual, etc.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

In-fact, weren't bayonetta matches removed because it was OOC for her to do something?

^This.

Hell, there was a glynda match with a game character where Weekly asked for actual cutscenes to prove what is in character, and he's a mod.

We do, in-fact, take canon cutscenes as what they would do in that situation.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Bayonetta matches were removed because she doesn't snipe from Purgatorio in-character, yes. But that's different from the topic at hand.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

There's also little sense behind that Dante wouldn't use a power he'd need to win a fight when he has it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Do you have any logical reason why we wouldn't take an actual showing then? A mod uses this logic too, so it's not just m either.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

My point is that Dante not being shown to use abilities in cutscenes doesn't mean he never uses them. I mean, DMC is all about being flashy, but not to the point where characters won't use their stuff no matter what in a serious fight.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yeah, I didn't say that. It's agreed by nearly everyone that people will do OOC stuff instead of fighting for all of eternity.


That said, he won't bea really starting with them.