The Creator (Wizard 101) vs Amaterasu

[Theglassman12]

wait when did Regidian vote for Creator?

 

[Delta333]

Amaterasu annihilates FRA

 

[KingTempest]

wait when did Regidian vote for Creator?

Oof, I saw someone say Agree FRA and I forgot to remove Regidian, he's not there now

 

[Theglassman12]

Amaterasu: 7 (Me, Milly, Ned, Zencha, Delta, Schnee, Schmooply)

Creator: 1 (Infinite)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

PI goes brrrrrrrr FRA

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

6.

 

[Theglassman12]

I already counted Ned, it's currently 5

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Mb.

 

[KingTempest]

My question.

What's gonna stop the creator from 100,000x multiplying his stats?

PI is resistance, not immunity. Is it still gonna work even if it's 100,000x stronger than before?

 

[Theglassman12]

Multiplying stats has nothing to do with your hax, they’re two separate things.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Multiple ways. Power Null through PI, manipulating probability/fate/causality so it doesn’t happen, sealing, many ways.

 

[KingTempest]

The creator still has regular moves which get resisted, which means they work, just not to the extent that they would do.

Multiply it by 100,000, what's happening?

 

[Theglassman12]

No resistance in general means it flat out does not work, if you barely resist it that’s just a limited form of resistance, you need the hax itself to be better or have resistance negation. And again stat amping does nothing here to aid the hax as they aren’t the same, and even if we’re being generous and assume that’s the case, Amaterasu is Countlessly above inflinitely above baseline Low 1-C.

 

[KingTempest]

Multiple ways. Power Null through PI, manipulating probability/fate/causality so it doesn’t happen, sealing, many ways.

100,000x boost to resistance through all of that except fate. Sealing can get space-time manip and teleportation.

No resistance in general means it flat out does not work, if you barely resist it that’s just a limited form of resistance,

No, that's called immunity. That is a completely different case than resistance. We have a full on page for it.

Resistance is the power to withstand the effects of certain abilities through varying means. The highest degree of resistance is outright Immunity, supposedly making the user in question completely unaffected by such abilities.

This whole thread was "resists" like... what? I don't see a single immunity, it just says resistance.

you need the hax itself to be better or have resistance negation.

Passive amp to resistance and resistance negation is on his page.
Passive resistance reduction to shut down all of her stuff, while from what I'm seeing, PI isn't passive. Shuts down all of that.

And again stat amping does nothing here to aid the hax as they aren’t the same, and even if we’re being generous and assume that’s the case, Amaterasu is Countlessly above inflinitely above baseline Low 1-C.

The creator:
Beyond the understanding of omniscient beings.
Can duplicate himself and can seal using infinite amounts of magic of a bunch of different types of magic.
Passively drops her AP. She resists it? Passively negs her resistance. She resists that? 100,000x boost on top of it.

 

[Theglassman12]

Ok at this point it seems like you’re throwing darts on the wall. You just said he can amp his stats, that’s not hax, and all of a sudden you’re arguing he stat amps his hax? That’s not even a thing stated on his page, only his stats gets amped that much, which doesn’t include hax. You’re not getting out of being sealed conceptually. You’re arguing semantics here. BlazBlue’s definition on resistance is flat out not being affected by the hax, your definition of what resistance is is not remotely comparable to BlazBlue. And again stat dropping

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

This is so stupid.

100,000x boost to resistance through all of that except fate. Sealing can get space-time manip and teleportation.

Prove that The Creator’s stat amps apply to Hax and Resistances, and if those hax are thought-based, because PI is.

Passive amp to resistance and resistance negation is on his page.
Passive resistance reduction to shut down all of her stuff, while from what I'm seeing, PI isn't passive. Shuts down all of that.

Amaterasu resists Statistics Reduction and Resistance Negation, and Amaterasu can activate PI subconsciously, it might as well be passive.

Beyond the understanding of omniscient beings.

Then they’re not omniscient, lol.

Can duplicate himself and can seal using infinite amounts of magic of a bunch of different types of magic.
Passively drops her AP. She resists it? Passively negs her resistance. She resists that? 100,000x boost on top of it.

Resists all of that, clones mean nothing considering PI has that too. Amaterasu still wins.

 

[KingTempest]

Ok at this point it seems like you’re throwing darts on the wall. You just said he can amp his stats, that’s not hax, and all of a sudden you’re arguing he stat amps his hax? That’s not even a thing stated on his page, only his stats gets amped that much, which doesn’t include hax. You’re not getting out of being sealed conceptually. You’re arguing semantics here.

Type 2 Resistance to conceptual manipulation
His profile flat out states Statistics Amplification (Increases Healing, Resistance, Resistance Negation and Accuracy).

I was wrong about the other hax, but resistance neg? That still works.

BlazBlue’s definition on resistance is flat out not being affected by the hax, your definition of what resistance is is not remotely comparable to BlazBlue. And again stat dropping

Someone needs to make a CRT now then, since the profile has literally one immunity, which says soul manipulation.
You know how much it takes on this wiki for immunities to be put into play? All that means is inverse it doesn't seem like much.
This isn't "my definition", this is the wiki's definition.

Prove that The Creator’s stat amps apply to Hax and Resistances, and if those hax are thought-based, because PI is.

Check his passives
Statistics Amplification (Increases Healing, Resistance, Resistance Negation and Accuracy)

Amaterasu resists Statistics Reduction and Resistance Negation, and Amaterasu can activate PI subconsciously, it might as well be passive.

Subconscious and passive are 2 completely different things.
Some people have subconscious precog where it activates out of nowhere at random times. Doesn't mean it's passive.

Then they’re not omniscient, lol.

Grandmother Raven created the eyes of time which give the user knowledge of the past and future.

The profile for the Eyes of Time has 3 abilities. 2 of them?

Nigh-Omniscience (A single eye allows the user to know either the past and the present or the future) | Omniscience (With both eyes, the user will know everything throughout the past, present and future).

Resists all of that,

Passively drops her AP. She resists it? Passively negs her resistance. She resists that? 100,000x boost on top of it.

clones mean nothing considering PI has that too. Amaterasu still wins.

Hinata made 1 clone. The Creator scales above Bartleby who duplicated an entire race. They're not the same.

 

[KingTempest]

Just putting this here.

Qualifying for Immunity is difficult, as no simple show of resistance is enough, and statements could easily be hyperbole or only apply in-verse.

Please don't bring inverse immunity statements out here.

 

[Theglassman12]

When the **** have we ever brought up immunity? Stop strawmanning us now and actually argue against the points we made.

resistance negation does NOT work because Amaterasu resists that on a higher scale than 100,000 times.

 

[Schnee_One]

Amaterasu FRA

 

[Shmooply]

Amaterasu FRA.

 

[KingTempest]

That's grace