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The Boys discussion thread

"you are really more annoying than i thought" would make more sense.



Wrong. Butcher is screaming and shaking while Homelander bites his lips

So? This means Homelander takes this serious as Butcher we can see his face and bite his lip lol
Another wrong. He says "what the f*ck" because he is obviously confused on what Butcher did, thats why he follows up with "what have you done".
One lazer can fly him down as we can see, Butchers lasers almost do no damage to Soldier Boy and only Butcher and Homelander’s lazers can fly him
Yeah bruises from the 1v3 they did on him.

We know this is not true since Maeve survived it lol.
His explosion is highest DC and AP feat in this series and this is bad writing while we saw after the fall maeve is still alive
This doesn't even make sense. What are you talking about?

First of all, he never fought Virus Butcher. Second of all thats wrong. Homelander struggled because Butcher is skilled and his tentacles are really versatile. Otherwise he is way stronger just look.
No, his tentacles can be cut with one lazer thats not that strong


Butcher hits four times and it doesn't even harm Homelander, he throws a punch back and... Butcher is done. Literally Ryan saves the day. One clean punch was literally enough to knock Butcher down completely

Its also shown when he is fighting and not trying to run he was even winning the 1v2

“Winning” or struggling because v1 Homelander should be stronger than usual that makes NO sense
 
Eric Kripke already confirmed that HL is stronger than SB btw.

As Clara Vought is building up the Vought American Company, that finding the strongest and most powerful superhero within it is definitely going to be one of her goals. And for a long time Soldier Boy filled that role, until Homelander came along.

 
I mean you just said otherwise.Im trying to configure whats your opinion on this.
I personally think that he shouldn't scale to Homelander as it stands.
While yes, Kripke in a interview said he always intended for The Boys to kill Homelander (that's why Kimiko got the blast and they didn't try to write SB in that) implying that Butcher can fight him, his previous feats don't support this.
The fight in Fort Harmony and his lost to Bombsight are very distinct instances that IMO put the final fight as PIS.
 
The real power scale is

Homelander > Soldier Boy > Bombsight > Maeve > Temp V Butcher ~ Ryan (Season 5 finale) > Ryan (Season 5 ep 3) ??? Tentacle Butcher.

Finale Tentacle Butcher is like Maeve tier give or take, before that he's just a high mid tier supe probably above the Gen V ones.

One > implying a small gap.
This is the best S-tier ranking. Maeve struggled with semi-serious Homelander but did more lasting damage than Butcher (V24) pushing his limits to match his heat vision. Ryan is easily the weakest sub-Homelander level character with a performance akin to Thanos vs Iron Man, Rock Hard was probably stronger even.
 
-Soldier Boy claims that the radiation room that he trapped Homelander in season 5 was to see if supes could withstand an atomic bomb.
It was survive and again we don't know the actual specifics of the test. Given they were testing this by exposing them to enriched uranium which didn't vaporise normal humans instantly and is shown to be nuclear radiation, it's pretty clear that they the test was simply testing whether they could survive being in the fallout zone of a nuclear device.


-Homelander claims he can easily level a city
I mean no, he specifies that it will take time and that he has to dismantle critical infrastructure.


Butcher claims in season 3 that Soldier Boy must have died from a Hydrogen Bomb when it was thought SB was dead
Butcher also claimed in the latest season that a supe relative to Soldier Boy only hit as hard as a sledgehammer.

-Stan Edgar says Homelander is as strong as a neutron bomb
Pretty sure that statements was referring to powers. And since Homelander doesn't produce intense heat, radiation and nuclear radiation it would be referring to SB's chest blast. What Stan actually states is that it is safe from anyone with the power of a neutron bomb. This doesn't necessarily mean Homelander and could simply mean entities such as Governments that has access to nukes, which is what most bunkers (post WW2) were made for. Homelander has too many antifeats to suggest he's even close to generating even a fraction of the power of a neutron bomb and has no feats to suggest he can. It's also not uncommon for statements in the show to be contradicted and stuff later on in the show. Such as Homelander stating in s1 that only supes can fight supes which aged like milk and stillwell stating Homelander has no weaknesses. The bunker is shown not to be safe to anyone with the power of a neutron bomb when black noir and the deep breaks in.
 
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