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The Boys discussion thread

Most shows have problems of fast characters with Atrocious travel speeds. In the boys we have reverse.

It makes no sense for combat speed to be lower than travel speed.
 
I mean there is this statement from Madelyn Stillwell from season 1
On this note, even a normal Supe is supposed to be extremely durable, relative to humans.
  • FRENCHIE: I'm a gunrunner by trade, but, uh, as you can see, I've developed a certain niche.
  • HUGHIE: Killing superheroes?
  • FRENCHIE: No. You can count on one hand the number of dead superheroes. Sometimes you can, uh, incapacitate them. Truly, they are magnificent creatures. Mm. Each one with a unique power that requires a unique solution. It's, uh... it's never the same twice. - The Boys 1x2: Cherry
Obviously the part about unique solutions refers to their individual power sets, but the fact that a gunrunner suggests that it's difficult to even incapacitate them implies they're commonly at least highly resistant to small-arms.
 
Execpt Godolkin, one of the og scientists working on V confirmed that most Supes are not bullet proof.

Probably have higher resistance and can take more shots to put down but most are going down to decently armed guys.

The seven is the cream of the crop. For the average supe, look at Gen V. Most of them are actually trash.

A bear is mauling 98% of the supe population.
 
Most shows have problems of fast characters with Atrocious travel speeds. In the boys we have reverse.

It makes no sense for combat speed to be lower than travel speed.
I think they should reliably scale to supersonic in combat speeds, my main gripe with travel speeds in general is that people ignore acceleration, a lot more verses deserve their MFTL+ travel speed to combat scaling nuked because characters blatantly need to accelerate to reach top speeds.
 
I more so view Homelander as like the ultimate manifestation of literary everything wrong with America in general plus Trump
You might appreciate my story. I have some characters and groups there that, among other things, collectively embody different aspects of everything that has gone completely wrong with United States culture, society, and ideology, including its global impact. 🙏
 
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So, like, is Kimiko and Soldier Boy immune/resistant to their own blast since it comes from them, and they are enveloped in their own explosions? Unconventional resistance to power Nullification via radiation blast resistance or something?
 
Execpt Godolkin, one of the og scientists working on V confirmed that most Supes are not bullet proof.

Probably have higher resistance and can take more shots to put down but most are going down to decently armed guys.
Cipher said many Supes, like Cate, aren't bulletproof: "It really boggles the mind, and yet, Cate Dunlap… welcome back… was overrun by a mere handful of Starlighter thugs. Not all of us are bulletproof. Supes are outnumbered, what? Ten million to one worldwide? If humans ever get their shit together and organize against us, let's face it. We're ******." The implication isn't that most Supes aren't bulletproof, it's that humans have the weapons and numbers to kill them.
For the average supe, look at Gen V. Most of them are actually trash.
I'm assuming you're talking about Godolkin's perception on them. In that case, this would include Rufus McCurdy, who was durable enough to tank being slammed through a wall, and Supes with similar durability.
 
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Again its not a budget thing, if you want a modern example look at a show like Superman and Lois, its got a fraction of a fraction of the budget The Boys has yet has far more visually impressive displays on a constant basis





Hell Stargirl has better visuals and feats

Can’t believe the Boys has a similar problem with statements & speed feats like CW Flash lol. The same show that’d claim he was moving somewhere in the low Mach range, as he’s zipping between cities.
 
So, like, is Kimiko and Soldier Boy immune/resistant to their own blast since it comes from them, and they are enveloped in their own explosions? Unconventional resistance to power Nullification via radiation blast resistance or something?
Ah, no?
One there's no direct confirmation they are immune (though the logic should be they are because they are at the epicenter of their blasts)
But two, is not a resistance to power nullification. Just to radiation.
 
Being hateful isn't gonna get us anywhere.
I'll say my last piece on this to avoid drama, but given how some bastards in Utah signed off on a 40,000 acre data center for AI, which eats up our water like f#cking corn flakes, negatively tilts the scale of job stability for artists and future artists (VFX artists, SFX artists, Voice Actors, etc), can be used to falsely criminalise innocent individuals, and overall is quite literally making technology regress in the current standard as well as jacking up the price of RAM due to inflation so people can have their giggle-fart p#rn and a pregnant Tung Tung Tung Sahur, I think it's safe to say that AI is a sloppy, effortless, shit, dog-c#nt addition to our society with many scientists making studies that suggest AI is making people less intelligent depending on ways they use it.

PS: It should be noted that I was referring to generative AI. AI being used in a way that aids people such as when AI found breast cancer in a woman before it became a problem is something I support.
 
I'll say my last piece on this to avoid drama, but given how some bastards in Utah signed off on a 40,000 acre data center for AI, which eats up our water like f#cking corn flakes, negatively tilts the scale of job stability for artists and future artists (VFX artists, SFX artists, Voice Actors, etc), can be used to falsely criminalise innocent individuals, and overall is quite literally making technology regress in the current standard as well as jacking up the price of RAM due to inflation so people can have their giggle-fart p#rn and a pregnant Tung Tung Tung Sahur, I think it's safe to say that AI is a sloppy, effortless, shit, dog-c#nt addition to our society with many scientists making studies that suggest AI is making people less intelligent depending on ways they use it.

PS: It should be noted that I was referring to generative AI. AI being used in a way that aids people such as when AI found breast cancer in a woman before it became a problem is something I support.
And I agree that AI is pushing us back and making us too dependent on it,while destroying the environment.

But by just being blatantly hateful to anyone who sort of supports isnt the way to go.
 
Nah. It deserves the hate. Like Butcher said, "scorched data centerf"
For the sake of this thread, and so I don't piss off Antvasima or some moderator to the extent I get banned (I enjoy participating in this forum), I feel like we should change topics. Immediately
 
Anyway, I found a pretty cool calculation website themed around VSBW. It's pretty cool, although some aspects are f#cky upon first use. It has calculators for GBE (with included presets), J/cc, Volume, Force, Impact (Meteor shit), Kinetic Energy, even built-in interfaces and calculators for PIXEL SCALING AND ANGSIZING (I am in heaven)
 
Anyway, I found a pretty cool calculation website themes around VSBW. It's pretty cool, although f#cky in a sense. It has calculators for GBE (with included presets), J/cc, Volume, Force, Impact (Meteor shit), Kinetic Energy, even built-in interfaces and calculators for PIXEL SCALING AND ANGSIZING (I am in heaven)
You're never going to guess where that originated from.
 
More or less.
I found it 2 days ago and didn't do much digging. I found it when searching for a GBE calculator because I couldn't understand the layout of the formula on the VSB Wiki. I thought it was fan-made becauss I found a "Data to Levels" converter on Blogger that converted energy to the applicable tiers on VSBW, though some names for tiers (like High 5-A) and the boundaries for power levels were outdated and so I thought the calculation site was also fan-made... But I assume you'll tell me that was also managed by VSBW too?
 
So keeping the shit that happened in Boys s5 aside, what do you guys think about Vought rising ?

They said it's a murder mystery although the first look doesn't really give that thriller feeling (it doesn't give any feelings, just character shots. Although it's just the first look and most likely the trailer will set up the plot.)

It looks good. I do like the asthetic of the time period. And they definitely are trying to make Jensen Ackles the face of the Boys universe now that Karl Urban and Anthony Starr have finished their characters.

I am interested in how they will do Soldier Boy. He looks like he wants to be a hero, but then is also trying to pipe a nazi. So will they show him as evil ? (he is, atleast by the 80's) Whole Bombsight seems to have held on to his morality despite being one of Strongest people in the world (pretty much every on near the "strongest" is evil in the boys)

And the Cold war era is a pretty nice backdrop. Let's just hope that they don't **** this up.
 
So keeping the shit that happened in Boys s5 aside, what do you guys think about Vought rising ?
NO feats, NO consistent scaling, and a BILLION anti-feats for hypersonic straight to Vought.

Jensen is gonna be goated, i might check out the first episode and decide whether to keep watching. Season 5 has made me fearful of any "VCU" (dumbass name) Project.
 
Ryan flying to The White House is like Mach 10 to 300 between 1 minute and 30 minutes. Gotta rewatch that scene, I guess.

Edit: It was about 223 seconds between it cutting back to Homelander and Ryan tackling him, so somewhere around Mach 78 at the least.
 
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I mean there is this statement from Madelyn Stillwell from season 1
This statement has been disproven many times by the show. In s2 supes
"There isn't a weapon on Earth that they haven't thrown at him. They've all failed"
This statement has been disproven many times by the show. In s2 he's shown being affected by supe dogwhistles. In the most recent season enriched uranium is shown to be able to affect him as well as malchemical's breath being able to affect him. I'm not a big fan of statement scaling, not my thing, especially if he had no feats to back it up and if it's contradicted in the show.

It wouldn't even make sense logically either and the statement taken to it's literal extreme makes no sense. How would the company that could not get supes in the military get their hands on nukes? How would they detonate it with no repercussions. Why would Vought risk damaging their most prized asset by detonating nukes on it. For it to be tested by every weapon on Earth, that would include Russian one use weapons like the TSAR bomb. Why would they hand Homelander over to the Russians?
 
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Is Homelanders entire notable matchups section gonna be deleted? S5 gave his heat vision insane range and way faster speed (which should work in speed equal)
 
Is Homelanders entire notable matchups section gonna be deleted? S5 gave his heat vision insane range and way faster speed (which should work in speed equal)
Ya referring to the V1 thing? Probably was just a temporary boost, ala A-Train injecting Compound-V to win the race.
 
We know taking shots of V are temporary buffs so we can treat V1 the same way. They are the same thing for the most part, current V is just far more stable (losing Immortality in return.)

Plus in Final fight his beams are genuinely ass. Billy shrugs them off with little damage and even Kimiko can take it.
 
We know taking shots of V are temporary buffs so we can treat V1 the same way. They are the same thing for the most part, current V is just far more stable (losing Immortality in return.)

Plus in Final fight his beams are genuinely ass. Billy shrugs them off with little damage and even Kimiko can take it.
Been wondering, isn't V1 an outdated and inferior product? Isn't it possible it just nerfed Homelander?

Sadly tho we never will get a confirmation.
 
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