The Amazing Digital Circus: Escaping From Being Outdated

[Psychomaster35]

The Amazing Digital Circus is a web series that is probably by far the most popular web series of all time thanks to its pilot having the most views out of any web series. Yet, it's ironic how the current state of the profiles are a mess compared to other web series on this site due to them not being updated after Episode 3 came out. Well, I've found the way out for this series to become fixed, so let's get to it.

Caine Rework
With how there have been 5 episodes released since Caine's profile was last revised, it still seems baffling how he has yet to be fixed to include new abilities and feats. Hence, I took matters into my own hands and remade his profile to include them.

• Old Profile
• New Profile

As you can see, apart from some new abilities being added, Caine has new feats that he scales to thanks to him being considered a God by his creations, which would therefore put him at City level+ scaling from the Moon's KE as well as Class G scaling from the Moon's mass. He also has Multi-Solar System level creation thanks to his many feats of creating worlds with starry skies in them.

On top of this, Caine also has a massive speed upgrade that puts him at Massively FTL+ from him flying from the Grounds to the Void in a short timeframe. While a common refute might be that Caine is teleporting or manipulating space, that's not the case as the way he usually teleports is through popping in and out of the scene, but the scene where he flies to the Void in particular has the area around him go into a zooming blur as well as his body being propelled forward in the same manner as an already accepted feat of his. Therefore, scaling him to Billions C should perfectly be fine by me.

Other Stat Upgrades
So these blogs here got accepted, with the first being a list of supporting feats that the Circus members should scale to (Plus a supporting feat for Caine) the second being a speed upgrade that should put everyone at Supersonic scaling from Zooble moving in tandem with a revolver bullet, and the third being a slight AP upgrade for the Circus members that gets them higher into Small Building level by a mere 0.03 tons (0.19 tons).

Also, the 9-C rating on Pomni's profile should be removed as she can physically trade blows with Jax, not to mention how nobody else even has that rating since they are all solidly 9-A thanks to them being comparable to each other.

Miscellaneous Additions
All Circus Members

• Weapon Mastery: Everyone in Episode 6 is proficient in using their guns.
• Resistance to Extreme Heat: Everyone can withstand being near the Sun who is hot enough to cook a shrimp from a distance.
• Administrator Pass as Optional Equipment: All of them have access to Administrator Passes that allow them to access the master console at Caine's Office.

Gangle

• Cellphone as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Explosion Manipulation + Dynamite as Optional Equipment: Has multiple sticks of dynamite that she can wear on herself.
• Tommy Gun as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Baseball Bat and Blindfold as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory

Jax

• Non-Physical Interaction + Vacuum as Optional Equipment: Has a vacuum that can suck up ghosts.
• Baseball Bat as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Rifle as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Revolver as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Office Key as Optional Equipment: Has access to the key to Caine's Office.

Kinger

• Double-Barrel Shotgun as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Glock as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Subjective Reality and Healing: Can summon a butterfly through making it up into existence to heal others.

Pomni

• Revolver as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Subjective Reality: By letting herself loose with her emotions, she was able to send a metal can flying by firing a bullet from her revolver when she previously couldn't with the same revolver due to not willing to hurt anyone.
• Bodily Weaponry: Can turn her teeth razor-sharp.
• Sniper Rifle as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.

Ragatha

• Wagon as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Mind Manipulation and Perception Manipulation + Stupid Sauce as Optional Equipment: The Stupid Sauce made Ragatha go high and twisted her perception.
• Baseball Bat as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Flag Gun as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.

Zooble

• Baseball Bat as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• Sniper Rifle as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.
• AK-47 as Optional Equipment: Self-explanatory.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Pomni's supernatural willpower and Kinger's summoning/healing should honestly be Subjective Reality for the digital circus cast.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Pomni's supernatural willpower and Kinger's summoning/healing should honestly be Subjective Reality for the digital circus cast.

Supernatural Willpower isn't something linked to Subjective Reality, though? Also, I don't see how the butterfly that Kinger made somehow went from being nonexistent to existent as any generic summoning ability can do that.

 

[Alexander]

Supernatural Willpower isn't something linked to Subjective Reality, though? Also, I don't see how the butterfly that Kinger made somehow went from being nonexistent to existent as any generic summoning ability can do that.

Because Kinger pretty much said that he made it up, he didn't summon it, he created it

 

[Imaginym]

• Resistance to Extreme Heat: Everyone can withstand being near the Sun who is hot enough to cook a shrimp from a distance.

I find this dubious, as the shrimp was fine enough to smile & wave until Pomni looked away, & the sun's dialogue indicates it's something it can do voluntarily; Ergo, it chose to do so actively to the shrimp for some reason. Considering the sun's personality, I could believe it arbitrarily choosing to do so.

• Supernatural Willpower: By letting herself loose with her emotions, she was able to send a metal can flying by firing a bullet from her revolver when she previously couldn't with the same revolver due to not willing to hurt anyone.

I'm not sure this qualifies. Why is this letting loose an example of it?
Heck, IIRC, Jax said something about belief, right? Could it be subjective reality?


I didn't find much else of concern in the text of the OP.
Reading the Caine blog:
" Gooseworx even states that Caine doesn't need to aged."
Grammar? Also, in the scan, GW says Caine "He does not have an age, as he is an AI.", so I'm not sure "doesn't need to age" is the ideal way to (re)state what GW said. Maybe just use GW's verbatim words? I'm open to alternative proposals on how to word this.
"instead they'll just suffer the cartoonist option possible upon experiencing fatal events"
While the notion of suffering the "cartoonist option possible" is interesting, I presume the intended word was "cartooniest" rather than "cartoonist".

• Hammerspace (He can store Bubble in his top hat[1]

Could this instead or additionally qualify as Summoning?

Gooseworx states that Caine's Teleportation is "enough to be a constant looming threat to everyone's privacy."
It may be notable that GW gave this answer in response to a question about how often he teleports, so it's apparently based on how often Caine teleports.

Toon Force, Body Control and Elasticity (His head is dentures with eyes in them, yet he is still capable of talking normally; he can control his body in wacky abnormal ways, such as unlinking his jaw without negative consequences, rotating his torso more than 360 degrees, twirling his arm into a loop, and rapidly rotating his eyeballs;[1] Asked of what happens if the characters fall from a high place, Gooseworx replies with "the cartoonist option possible."[3]

• Spatial Manipulation and Portal Creation (Caine did a fast travel action to take Pomni on a tour of The Amazing Digital Circus without being concerned with navigating around anything or with what direction they were flying in]; later, it was shown that some doors in The Tent led to rigid underwater sections or a big dark space with stacked merry-go-rounds; exit doors are not attached to anything, yet they lead to the backrooms;[1] Created a portal to the Candy Canyon Kingdom's dimension[10])

There appears to be a linking mistake in this justification?

Gooseworx states that the reason Caine program in pain "because he feels like he should";[2]
Grammar error?

Regarding the scaling to the sun & the moon, how are we confident of their thickness? They are depicted as looking very 2-Dimensional for their 3D series, so how do we know the cartoony sun & moon aren't thin like papercraft art or such?


Otherwise, I noticed nothing else that I don't mind approving within the Caine blog.

Nice work!

Time to eagerly await more evaluation & discussion!

 

[BatFellow]

I did think that the profiles were oddly outdated for what is such a massive web-series, so hopefully these updates will be approved.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I agree, obviously.

 

[LittleGuy99]

Agree

 

[AyOgUyS]

Don't know anything about the verse but this seems fine at a glance, I agree

 

[Psychomaster35]

I find this dubious, as the shrimp was fine enough to smile & wave until Pomni looked away, & the sun's dialogue indicates it's something it can do voluntarily; Ergo, it chose to do so actively to the shrimp for some reason. Considering the sun's personality, I could believe it arbitrarily choosing to do so.

Nothing indicates that the Sun is actually changing in temperature in just one concentrated area especially given how her heat is pretty much AoE given her appearance. If the shrimp got fried, then it only means that the temperature around everything became hotter and that they all withstood it fine.

I'm not sure this qualifies. Why is this letting loose an example of it?
Heck, IIRC, Jax said something about belief, right? Could it be subjective reality?

I'm pretty sure Supernatural Willpower is an ability that lets someone do what they previously couldn't do, something evident when Pomni couldn't send a metal can flying with a revolver bullet because she didn't have the will to hurt her friends, and yet later on she was able to send another metal can flying with the same revolver which tells me that some ability had to be involved that let her do what she previously couldn't do. And no, it's not Subjective Reality as that ability affects the boundaries between existence and nonexistence, something that isn't evidently being involved here.

Reading the Caine blog:
" Gooseworx even states that Caine doesn't need to aged."
Grammar? Also, in the scan, GW says Caine "He does not have an age, as he is an AI.", so I'm not sure "doesn't need to age" is the ideal way to (re)state what GW said. Maybe just use GW's verbatim words? I'm open to alternative proposals on how to word this.
"instead they'll just suffer the cartoonist option possible upon experiencing fatal events"
While the notion of suffering the "cartoonist option possible" is interesting, I presume the intended word was "cartooniest" rather than "cartoonist".

• Hammerspace (He can store Bubble in his top hat[1]

Could this instead or additionally qualify as Summoning?

Gooseworx states that Caine's Teleportation is "enough to be a constant looming threat to everyone's privacy."
It may be notable that GW gave this answer in response to a question about how often he teleports, so it's apparently based on how often Caine teleports.

Toon Force, Body Control and Elasticity (His head is dentures with eyes in them, yet he is still capable of talking normally; he can control his body in wacky abnormal ways, such as unlinking his jaw without negative consequences, rotating his torso more than 360 degrees, twirling his arm into a loop, and rapidly rotating his eyeballs;[1] Asked of what happens if the characters fall from a high place, Gooseworx replies with "the cartoonist option possible."[3]

• Spatial Manipulation and Portal Creation (Caine did a fast travel action to take Pomni on a tour of The Amazing Digital Circus without being concerned with navigating around anything or with what direction they were flying in]; later, it was shown that some doors in The Tent led to rigid underwater sections or a big dark space with stacked merry-go-rounds; exit doors are not attached to anything, yet they lead to the backrooms;[1] Created a portal to the Candy Canyon Kingdom's dimension[10])

There appears to be a linking mistake in this justification?

Gooseworx states that the reason Caine program in pain "because he feels like he should";[2]
Grammar error?

A lot of this was already on Caine's profile before I worked on the sandbox, but I'll go fix the grammar on it.

Regarding the scaling to the sun & the moon, how are we confident of their thickness? They are depicted as looking very 2-Dimensional for their 3D series, so how do we know the cartoony sun & moon aren't thin like papercraft art or such?

This is most likely just an artstyle choice especially since there are other 2D moments in TADC apart from the Moon and the Sun. Nothing implies that they are literally 2D just because they are drawn 2D, especially given how the term 2.5D (2D art in a 3D environment) exists.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I'm pretty sure Supernatural Willpower is an ability that lets someone do what they previously couldn't do, something evident when Pomni couldn't send a metal can flying with a revolver bullet because she didn't have the will to hurt her friends, and yet later on she was able to send another metal can flying with the same revolver which tells me that some ability had to be involved that let her do what she previously couldn't do. And no, it's not Subjective Reality as that ability affects the boundaries between existence and nonexistence, something that isn't evidently being involved here.

The Princess (Slay the Princess)

Born from the splitting of the Endless Cycle by the Narrator who feared the slow and inevitable death of his universe, the Shifting Mound is the dichotomy imprinted on the empty canvas of reality. She is the idea of change and transformation itself. Taking the form of a Princess due to The Long...

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The Hero (Slay the Princess)

Born from the splitting of the Endless Cycle by the Narrator who feared the death of the universe, the Long Quiet is the God and living embodiment of the emptiness and the stasis of reality. Trapped in an endless series of repeating worlds, the Long Quiet is lead by an Echo to slay his opposite...

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These two's respective gimmicks are "Is what she's believed to be" and "can do anything he believes he can do," we index both as Subjective Reality.

Supernatural Willpower is more in-line with powering through grievous injuries and such, not really warping reality to fit your will.

 

[SnakesCity]

I also think Subjective Reality is the better choice here given that Kinger does something similar earlier in the episode by just "making up" a healing item and later in the episode when Pomni causes the single bullet she fires to ricochet enough times to disarm Zooble and knock her down.

 

[Psychomaster35]

The Princess (Slay the Princess)

Born from the splitting of the Endless Cycle by the Narrator who feared the slow and inevitable death of his universe, the Shifting Mound is the dichotomy imprinted on the empty canvas of reality. She is the idea of change and transformation itself. Taking the form of a Princess due to The Long...

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The Hero (Slay the Princess)

Born from the splitting of the Endless Cycle by the Narrator who feared the death of the universe, the Long Quiet is the God and living embodiment of the emptiness and the stasis of reality. Trapped in an endless series of repeating worlds, the Long Quiet is lead by an Echo to slay his opposite...

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These two's respective gimmicks are "Is what she's believed to be" and "can do anything he believes he can do," we index both as Subjective Reality.

Supernatural Willpower is more in-line with powering through grievous injuries and such, not really warping reality to fit your will.

I also think Subjective Reality is the better choice here given that Kinger does something similar earlier in the episode by just "making up" a healing item and later in the episode when Pomni causes the single bullet she fires to ricochet enough times to disarm Zooble and knock her down.

I changed them to Subjective Reality now.

 

[Imaginym]

Nothing indicates that the Sun is actually changing in temperature in just one concentrated area especially given how her heat is pretty much AoE given her appearance. If the shrimp got fried, then it only means that the temperature around everything became hotter and that they all withstood it fine.

I claimed the sun's dialogue indicates it, you claimed "Nothing indicates that the Sun is actually changing in temperature in just one concenrated area", but I'm a bit skeptic of that....

Sun: Wow, you look mediocre! If you ever need a sunburn, give me a call!

Pomni: I-I don't want a sunburn.

Sun: Should have thought of that before I decided I hate you!

The fact it implies it can go to someone to give them a targeted sunburn would align with it being able to targetedly burn others like the shrimp.
& its personality seems capriciously malicious enough to just go after someone on a whim.

I wouldn't say it's CERTAIN the sun didn't just focus the heat onto the shrimp.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So far, I share a lot of the same thoughts as Imaginym.

 

[Imaginym]

So far, I share a lot of the same thoughts as Imaginym.

It may be appreciable to clarify where your thoughts differ from mine.
I, of course, don't mind if yours differ from mine, so please feel free to be open; I like thoroughness.
Or if you don't wish to clarify, I suppose that's fine, too. Sorry for any bother. Best wishes!

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It may be appreciable to clarify where your thoughts differ from mine.
I, of course, don't mind if yours differ from mine, so please feel free to be open; I like thoroughness.
Or if you don't wish to clarify, I suppose that's fine, too. Sorry for any bother. Best wishes!

I mean, I agree with the OP's proposals that you accepted as well as Subjective Reality, but iffy about Supernatural Willpower

 

[Psychomaster35]

I mean, I agree with the OP's proposals that you accepted as well as Subjective Reality, but iffy about Supernatural Willpower

I already changed the Supernatural Willpower to Subjective Reality, so that's already fixed

 

[McFriesGuy075]

I think the creation of a physiology page for those of the Digital Circus would be a nice addition, given the universal abilities for everyone involved in it, but that's for another time.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Why we assume that these worlds that Caine can create are light years in size with numerous stars as big as the sun (1440000 km in diameter)? We see in episode 2 that the worlds are as big as some hundred of meters, since it works just like any "vídeo game". The background isn't real and you can go outside it by just going through a wall.

Sun and Moon also being 1:1 with the REAL sun and moon is just... wrong? Like, we see that they are relative in size, that they are 2D/2.5D, that they got faces and eyes... why are we assuming that they are real celestial bodies?

 

[Lilybitdun]

I have some worries about the calcs

The Truck Feat:

Why is the explosion assumed to be 20 psi when it doesn't even damage the truck nor it's windows?

Why is an explosion being used in the first place? Shouldn't be too hard to find speed from the same scene to find KE (Also weird that High 8-C KE is one-shotting a 8-B character, not sure why getting Pomni's durability was called calc stacking when it's the same scene as the truck feat but eh). Could likely also calc the burst of sand via this method instead of using the explosion formula

Getting Pomni's durability from the truck KE feels iffy too since she's inside of it. I've been told how durability from car KE while inside of it is iffy due to there being multiple safeguards. Plus they seemed to have stayed in their seats (this is the first frame we see of them after the collision), getting durability would imply them getting smushed against the windshield which we don't see.

Run and Gun:

I find the idea of the bullets being at full speed questionable when they are ricocheting which should significantly slow them down. Especially if other scenes with direct gunfire have the bullets travel in 1 frame instead

This problem was noted when it got evaluated, so I feel like it would be good to discuss here

 

[Alexander]

Why we assume that these worlds that Caine can create are light years in size with numerous stars as big as the sun (1440000 km in diameter)? We see in episode 2 that the worlds are as big as some hundred of meters, since it works just like any "vídeo game". The background isn't real and you can go outside it by just going through a wall.

Sun and Moon also being 1:1 with the REAL sun and moon is just... wrong? Like, we see that they are relative in size, that they are 2D/2.5D, that they got faces and eyes... why are we assuming that they are real celestial bodies?

But this is also a cartoon world...game, cartoon world game

 

[StarShooter80]

He also has Multi-Solar System level creation thanks to his many feats of creating worlds with starry skies in them.

On top of this, Caine also has a massive speed upgrade that puts him at Massively FTL+ from him flying from the Grounds to the Void in a short timeframe.

I'm unsure about this. Due to the setting of the Digital Circus being a VR game/world, Caine could just be using images for the backgrounds like real 3D games, only illustrating a sky and night background without there actually being ones. As a possibly rating I would definitely agree, as a 100% no doubt solid tier? Nah.

I'd also question how a machine can handle rendering and processing an entire starry sky without issue but this is the same one that can suck human souls into it so fair

I definitely agree with everything else though.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Why we assume that these worlds that Caine can create are light years in size with numerous stars as big as the sun (1440000 km in diameter)? We see in episode 2 that the worlds are as big as some hundred of meters, since it works just like any "vídeo game". The background isn't real and you can go outside it by just going through a wall.

If you're referring to how the truck glitched through the floor in Episode 2, then I don't see what this has anything to do with the stars being fake. Besides, that was just a world that was only implied to be big enough to house a sun due to a day and night cycle being present, not to mention how the day and night cycle is also present in Spudsy's.

Sun and Moon also being 1:1 with the REAL sun and moon is just... wrong? Like, we see that they are relative in size, that they are 2D/2.5D, that they got faces and eyes... why are we assuming that they are real celestial bodies?

I never said that the Moon and the Sun were 1:1. In fact, I already pointed out that they were not the size of the actual moon and the sun due to how they appear in front of the clouds in their first appearance.

As for them being 2D, I literally already pointed this out to be an artstyle thing that should have no effect on their dimensionality. Otherwise, it'd be like saying every 2D character in The Amazing World of Gumball is literally 2D in dimensionality when that's not the case.

Why is the explosion assumed to be 20 psi when it doesn't even damage the truck nor it's windows?

Why is an explosion being used in the first place? Shouldn't be too hard to find speed from the same scene to find KE (Also weird that High 8-C KE is one-shotting a 8-B character, not sure why getting Pomni's durability was called calc stacking when it's the same scene as the truck feat but eh). Could likely also calc the burst of sand via this method instead of using the explosion formula

Getting Pomni's durability from the truck KE feels iffy too since she's inside of it. I've been told how durability from car KE while inside of it is iffy due to there being multiple safeguards. Plus they seemed to have stayed in their seats (this is the first frame we see of them after the collision), getting durability would imply them getting smushed against the windshield which we don't see.

We already accept it due to the same feat already being accepted in the original blog prior to the one with fixed heights, so... (Not to mention, the official captions literally call it an explosion)

Also, getting Pomni's durability from the truck KE is still fine as her back was about a foot away from the seat wall when the truck propelled forward, not to mention how she wasn't wearing any seatbelt from the looks of it.

I find the idea of the bullets being at full speed questionable when they are ricocheting which should significantly slow them down. Especially if other scenes with direct gunfire have the bullets travel in 1 frame instead

This problem was noted when it got evaluated, so I feel like it would be good to discuss here

It already seems like everyone is accepting the feat as it is and not accounting for it being ricocheted especially with it being a Digital World with different laws and physics, so I still think this is fine.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

If you're referring to how the truck glitched through the floor in Episode 2, then I don't see what this has anything to do with the stars being fake

You literally can go outside the map by going through a wall. It's obvious meant to simulate how maps are created in games. The ground, sky, clouds, nothing there is irl size.

that was just a world that was only implied to be big enough to house a sun due to a day and night cycle being present, not to mention how the day and night cycle is also present in Spudsy's.

No clue what do you want from this. Day and night cycle is something you can code with no need to create a 3D model 1440000km in size over 200000000km away

I never said that the Moon and the Sun were 1:1.

The density. You're trying to put density of our irl sun, with multiple layers, different temperatures, mass, and such, into a sun with a silly face that does not act like a real sun

As for them being 2D, I literally already pointed this out to be an artstyle thing that should have no effect on their didimensionality

The whole thing is that the models are 1:1 with their proportions within the circus. Idk what you mean by this

Otherwise, it'd be like saying every 2D character in The Amazing World of Gumball is literally 2D in dimensionality when that's not the case.

TAWG is a complete different context.

 

[Alexander]

You literally can go outside the map by going through a wall. It's obvious meant to simulate how maps are created in games. The ground, sky, clouds, nothing there is irl size.

Actually no, they only went outside of the map by glitching, and that only happened do to the collisions

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Actually no, they only went outside of the map by glitching, and that only happened do to the collisions

Yeah
Like in any 3D game

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To point out, when Pomni and the-guy-that-I-forgot-the-name were falling, we see the map from below

It's 1:1 of how models are done irl. Easy example:

The ground is barely thick, probably mm thick

If Caine is making the main world of the adventure not even 1 meter thick, I really doubt he would waste time making stars 1440000km in diameter, light years away, completely solid, just for background

Edit: Fused two comments into one to not waste the thread space

 

[Lilybitdun]

We already accept it due to the same feat already being accepted in the original blog prior to the one with fixed heights, so... (Not to mention, the official captions literally call it an explosion)

Feats being accepted before doesn't mean they can't be flawed. Still no explanation for using 20 psi

Also, getting Pomni's durability from the truck KE is still fine as her back was about a foot away from the seat wall when the truck propelled forward

Being pushed back into a seat isn't a durability feat tho, seats are meant to cushion impact. You can experience that same thing irl but that doesn't mean you can tank the car's KE

We see Pomni is holding onto the seat, which would stop her from slamming into the window shield like the calc would imply. Gumigoo's arms are also to his side so he's likely doing the same thing

It already seems like everyone is accepting the feat as it is and not accounting for it being ricocheted especially with it being a Digital World with different laws and physics, so I still think this is fine.

Most of people here aren't calc members, verse supporters, nor gave an explanation on why they think it's fine tbh

I don't think the physics are inherently that different to assume ricochet isn't a factor

 

[Re5yh]

Does Caine should be like at a High 3-A rating?, like Caine created the Zooble Box which was directly stated by Gooseworx to have "no end" which could mean the box is endless/infinite.

Anyways, I would agree with the changes. Where's Kinger???

 

[Psychomaster35]

You literally can go outside the map by going through a wall. It's obvious meant to simulate how maps are created in games. The ground, sky, clouds, nothing there is irl size.

Again... I don't see what point you're trying to make? No offense, but just because they went through the ground and fell into a darkened void doesn't really give an indication that the sky is fake.

No clue what do you want from this. Day and night cycle is something you can code with no need to create a 3D model 1440000km in size over 200000000km away

Who said that these values are the exact sizes of the worlds Caine creates? AFAIK the show never gives any exact value as to how big these worlds are, but they are certainly still large enough to house starry skies in them. So, the worlds are 2002 light years radius since it's the standard value we use for starry skies. Furthermore, I only pointed out the day and night cycle to indicate that these starry skies are real as it's a well known way to prove that they are real via the world being implied to be on a planet that's rotating into days and night cycles.

The density. You're trying to put density of our irl sun, with multiple layers, different temperatures, mass, and such, into a sun with a silly face that does not act like a real sun

And...? You know we do that for random planets in other feats where we assume their density is the same as Earth by default (Assuming it's solid of course), so I don't see why you can't do the same thing for getting the masses of moons and stars by comparing them to the density of our moon and our sun respectively.

The whole thing is that the models are 1:1 with their proportions within the circus. Idk what you mean by this

And I don't mean what you mean by this, either. If you really insist that the Moon and the Sun are literal 2D entities and that it's not just an artstyle thing, then show me proof by a statement saying that the Moon and the Sun are literally flat 2D beings. If you don't have any proof, then we can just safely say that they are 3D by default.

TAWG is a complete different context.

I only pointed this out because you keep insisting that the Moon and the Sun are flat 2D beings because they are drawn 2D when that isn't good evidence to say such since it can most likely just be an artstyle thing, not to mention how like I said, there are other times in the show where things are animated in 2D like Pomni and Kinger's eyes in the dark during Episode 3 or the entire TADC High School anime bit in Episode 5.

Does Caine should be like at a High 3-A rating?, like Caine created the Zooble Box which was directly stated by Gooseworx to have "no end" which could mean the box is endless/infinite.

Anyways, I would agree with the changes. Where's Kinger???

Already debunked by Episode 7 because of how the box is just able to create parts for her in a finite space.

Also, I never realized that Kinger didn't have a profile yet, I just assumed he did because his profile image is on the verse page

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Not sure about speed, it really looks like Spatial Hax. If he just flew, then he did so in a straight line and would most surely crash into something. Also even if it is speed, wouldn't it just be for travel?

There are theories that Kinger's healing stuff is tied to him being creator of TADC or at least working on it, so maybe restrain it just to him. (We also need his profile… this man is too goated to not have one)

I agree with everything else though, looks neat. Great work. And here I thought the verse has died out here. Will certainly engage more with the verse over here now.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Not sure about speed, it really looks like Spatial Hax. If he just flew, then he did so in a straight line and would most surely crash into something. Also even if it is speed, wouldn't it just be for travel?

I mean, he does manage to constantly stop himself at times whenever he's showing Pomni around the place, so he'd have to be reacting in a way that it wouldn't just scale to his travel speed.

And as for it being hax, I already pointed that out in the OP since the way it's done is exactly like one of his other zooming movements that got accepted as a speed for him.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I mean, he does manage to constantly stop himself at times whenever he's showing Pomni around the place, so he'd have to be reacting in a way that it wouldn't just scale to his travel speed.

Eh…

If a character travels or flies very fast through a very empty terrain, in which it doesn't necessarily have to react to sudden obstacles, the speed in question is travel or flight speed, but not necessarily reaction speed. In order for it to also be reaction speed, and the speed in total hence applying to the character's combat speed, the character either must have demonstrated the ability to react to sudden obstacles while traveling at this speed, have a calculation made that supports the character having corresponding reaction speed/time or otherwise demonstrate having comparable reactions.

Simply being able to stop accurately at the target destination does typically not qualify, as it can be spotted from a large distance to make preparations to stop or the character could even slow down before reaching the destination, assuming we only know the average speed with which they moved.

Doesn’t it fall under this?

And as for it being hax, I already pointed that out in the OP since the way it's done is exactly like one of his other zooming movements that got accepted as a speed for him.

Yeah but in this case, the proposal is that he moves from the entire solar system. He’d surely crash into one of the stars, wouldn’t he?

 

[Psychomaster35]

Yeah but in this case, the proposal is that he moves from the entire solar system. He’d surely crash into one of the stars, wouldn’t he?

Given the low density of stars in space per cubic light year, it would definitely be possible for him to not hit any star on his way to his destination.

Doesn’t it fall under this?

Ah, right. I'll have to specify that being travel speed, but I'm not sure what kind of reaction feats he'd be able to scale to.

 

[Vietthai96]

As you can see, apart from some new abilities being added

Can you list new abilities that you want to added?. Sorry but i got swamped with requests so i don't really have time to figure out what abilities.

I will evaluate this when i have time

 

[Psychomaster35]

Can you list new abilities that you want to added?. Sorry but i got swamped with requests so i don't really have time to figure out what abilities.

I will evaluate this when i have time

Here are the new abilities being added

 

[IDK3465]

I think this all looks great for the most part. The only things I disagree with are the 4-A/MFTL+ ratings for Caine, as I believe they should only be "possibly" because the stars we see could easily be skyboxes rather than actual physical objects in the simulation, akin to how it's done in 99% of video games. This isn't to say we should rule it out entirely, given that we don't have any solid confirmation one way or the other, but I feel that keeping them as entirely acceptable ratings isn't the best approach here. I'm also a bit skeptical about the heat resistance due to what people have already said.

That being said, everything else looks great. I'm glad the series is finally getting updated on the wiki :]

 

[Psychomaster35]

I think this all looks great for the most part. The only things I disagree with are the 4-A/MFTL+ ratings for Caine, as I believe they should only be "possibly" because the stars we see could easily be skyboxes rather than actual physical objects in the simulation, akin to how it's done in 99% of video games. This isn't to say we should rule it out entirely, given that we don't have any solid confirmation one way or the other, but I feel that keeping them as entirely acceptable ratings isn't the best approach here. I'm also a bit skeptical about the heat resistance due to what people have already said.

That being said, everything else looks great. I'm glad the series is finally getting updated on the wiki :]

We already accept the Candy Canyon Kingdom's implied sun, but it only received a possibly because we never see it, but we do see the starry skies and I don't see why people think they are fake especially since the Digital Circus is essentially the baseline reality due to 99% of the show taking place there, not to mention the constant day and night cycles that further imply that the starry skies are real.

 

[Axorandom0]

Following. A lot of it looks good at a glance.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Personally, i think the matches in Caine's profile should be removed

Major stat upgrades + new abilities should make them all invalid and removed imo