Team Fortress 2 Lifting Strength Feat

[DustBiter1111]

TF2 doesn’t have a lot of lifting strength feats. We have Heavy lifting the grizzly, but Heavy is implied to be the strongest of the mercenaries, and we lack good feats for the others.
I came across this image:

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/6/68/Tankbuster.jpg

This describes the Black Box as being half a ton (Peak Human).
Soldier carries this around quite casually, being able to walk, jump and swim without issue, not to mention the reserve ammo and his other weapons.
I think this is a reasonable feat to include on his page.

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

looks good

 

[ElixirBlue]

Where does the image come from?

 

[DustBiter1111]

Where does the image come from?

It was made by the creator of the item set. I’m struggling to find the image, but I believe this was the post that featured it:

TF2 - Polypack - Larolaro [2] - Page 5

Let's see a model/texture for the hat before we go all talkin about badges, although I do like the idea.

polycount.com

“All done!





Oh damn, its 7am, no sleep for me it seems.

“

 

[ElixirBlue]

Ah, those links don't work for me.

Looking through it, I don't think that can be accepted. It doesn't seem to have been published officially and the post itself seems to be for memes and funsie on a thread during a contest, rather than something officially coming out of/or promoting the verse.

 

[DustBiter1111]

Ah, those links don't work for me.

Looking through it, I don't think that can be accepted. It doesn't seem to have been published officially and the post itself seems to be for memes and funsie on a thread during a contest, rather than something officially coming out of/or promoting the verse.

Fair enough. The quest for a non-Heavy LS feat continues

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Fair enough. The quest for a non-Heavy LS feat continues

It might be worth calcing the weight of Engie's buildings, the dispencer especially since it seems the bulkiest

 

[DustBiter1111]

It might be worth calcing the weight of Engie's buildings, the dispencer especially since it seems the bulkiest

How would one go about doing this?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

How would one go about doing this?

You'd just need to calculate it's volume and multiply it by the density
the dispenser looks fairly rectangular so the rectangular prism volume formula seems like the best pick
i might try doing it myself

 

[DustBiter1111]

You'd just need to calculate it's volume and multiply it by the density
the dispenser looks fairly rectangular so the rectangular prism volume formula seems like the best pick
i might try doing it myself

Team Fortress 2 Mapper's Reference - Valve Developer Community

developer.valvesoftware.com

According to this, dispensers are 83 hu tall and 49 hu wide.

Hammer unit - Official TF2 Wiki | Official Team Fortress Wiki

wiki.teamfortress.com

This says one hammer unit=1.905 centimeters.
Dispenser height:1.58115 meters
Dispenser width:0.93345 meters

 

[Shmooply]

The LS stuff on their profiles is pretty bad, now that I've checked it.
We assume Scout is class 5 for being able to restrain a random BLU Heavy and we don't know if that one is comparable to the actual Heavy, Pyro has no explanation for his LS, and the rest of the characters are class 5 because of a weird reason (we don't have any statements of the other classes being comparable to Scout or Heavy).

I feel like it would be best to change everyone's ratings (excluding Heavy, Saxton Hale and maybe Soldier) to Superhuman until we find a better LS feat due to being able to carry so many of their optional equipment.

 

[DustBiter1111]

Team Fortress 2 Mapper's Reference - Valve Developer Community

developer.valvesoftware.com

According to this, dispensers are 83 hu tall and 49 hu wide.

Hammer unit - Official TF2 Wiki | Official Team Fortress Wiki

wiki.teamfortress.com

This says one hammer unit=1.905 centimeters.
Dispenser height:1.58115 meters
Dispenser width:0.93345 meters

Hold on, we need a length too. In a bit I’ll get on hammer editor and find out that way

 

[DustBiter1111]

Hold on, we need a length too. In a bit I’ll get on hammer editor and find out that way

Sadly the measurements don’t seem to be lining up in hammer editor the same way they do on the developer wiki. We need another way to find the length

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Sadly the measurements don’t seem to be lining up in hammer editor the same way they do on the developer wiki. We need another way to find the length

I'll scale the length to the dispencers height in mspaint

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Alright i did it
Here's the finished calc

 

[DustBiter1111]

Alright i did it
Here's the finished calc

Based and beyond superhuman regular mercs pilled

 

[Shmooply]

now all we need is someone that will agree to it

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I posted the calc on the evaluations thread, now we just have to wait

 

[MinecraftHater2011]

This scene where Heavy delays a blast door from closing might be a good LS feat

 

[DustBiter1111]

This scene where Heavy delays a blast door from closing might be a good LS feat

How do you calc that?

 

[Shmooply]

Isn't there also a feat in the comics where Spy casually throws a bulky guy behind him? I think it happened back when him and Scout were in prison.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

How do you calc that?

I guess you would need to calculate the force of the doors closing?
Speaking of LS feats there's also Saxton restraining a giant turtle in the comics tho that would scale only to him and characters comparable

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Diamond Drone did a recalc of the dispensers weight in the comments of my blog the result is way lower so we might have to find other feats for the non heavy mercs
Perhaps Pyro crushing a lighter could be something?

 

[Shmooply]

Isn't there also a feat in the comics where Spy casually throws a bulky guy behind him? I think it happened back when him and Scout were in prison.

Nevermind, I was wrong. He just shanks the guy really quickly.

Perhaps Pyro crushing a lighter could be something?

From what I've checked, vintage lighters (since, y'know, the game takes place in the late 60s) are made out of mostly metal, but their outer case is made out of brass, so you can take that into account if you're planning to calc that feat.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

From what I've checked, vintage lighters (since, y'know, the game takes place in the late 60s) are made out of mostly metal, but their outer case is made out of brass, so you can take that into account if you're planning to calc that feat.

Neat
tho the lighter seems to be a plastic one in a previous shot

 

[Shmooply]

Well, that sucks.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I did a little googling for that
using a BIC lighter as reference it should be made of delrin plastic which has a compressive strength of 1000 psi

 

[DustBiter1111]

Diamond Drone did a recalc of the dispensers weight in the comments of my blog the result is way lower so we might have to find other feats for the non heavy mercs
Perhaps Pyro crushing a lighter could be something?

I’ll take it. This is roughly half of the Black Box feat and it applies to a light class, so I assume it scales to everyone

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Dispncer calc is accepted

 

[Shmooply]

We assume Scout is class 5 for being able to restrain a random BLU Heavy and we don't know if that one is comparable to the actual Heavy,

Actually, wait. Since we use gameplay stuff as canon for some reason, and since Scout can shove both Heavy and Engineer, we still have some class 5 feat for him.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Would shoving them let him scale to them in LS tho?

 

[Shmooply]

Don't we treat pushing things as LS or am I just forgetting our standards?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

pushing things is LS yeah but i'm asking if that would be enough to scale his LS to Heavy or Engie, since they don't weigh that much obviously