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TBATE Discussion Thread

i think i'm done with Arthur's profiles
The major thing missing is Fate which deserves it's own CRT (not by me though)
Let me know if there are other things missing
I'm gonna be honest i don't really understand how the profiles supposed to work when abilities aren't divided by character keys , like how are people supposed to know what to use in vs matches?
 
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I'm gonna be honest i don't really understand how the profiles supposed to work when abilities aren't divided by character keys , like how are people supposed to know what to use in vs matches?
The thing is (a good thing actually) that most of his abilities are innate. Take Martial Arts for example. Yeah, he advanced it further under Kordri but he could always do it as it was part of his training on earth. Same with something like Analytical Prediction. Regardless, the special abilities have notes attached to them (See the abilities under Realmheart or Weapon Mastery
Same thing with his Aether page. King's Gambit and Realmheart have notes attached to them regarding which keys they're available in. Same with something like Homing Attack
 
i think i'm done with Arthur's profiles
The major thing missing is Fate which deserves it's own CRT (not by me though)
Let me know if there are other things missing
W overall, if Aether CRT is accepted so he could gain cm2, law manip and reality warp. Arthur can aslo react and resist to kezess time stop (volume 10 feat) so we could maybe add resistence to time manipulation (time stop)
 
W overall, if Aether CRT is accepted so he could gain cm2, law manip and reality warp. Arthur can aslo react and resist to kezess time stop (volume 10 feat) so we could maybe add resistence to time manipulation (time stop)
How did I forget about the time-stop feat?
I'll add it
 
i think i'm done with Arthur's profiles
The major thing missing is Fate which deserves it's own CRT (not by me though)
Let me know if there are other things missing
does destruction really count as fire manipulation given destruction is only taking on the appearance of fire rather than technically being fire as explained by the first djinn remnant?
 
new thread
 
I was thinking about possible layer on some hax (deconstruction and power nullfication)

Firstly : Destruction hax cannot be erased and resist to soulfire attack (reistence to EE, deconstruction and power nullification)

But Cadell with soul fire could erase Arthur's mana attacks like his purple fire (Arthur hax in 3rd beast stage) who could negate Nico's regeneration and spell so :
Arthur Purple flame < Cadell's soul fire < Destruction.

Cadell soul fire had already a resistence to Arthur negation purple fire so Destruction who could negate Cadell's soul fire have already 1 layer of power nullification (and for regis 1 layer of deconstruction maybe or greater deconstruction because it's more efficient in the physical way and it could affect abstract things).


Also i didn't check the scan but i saw it in the sandbox with all tbate panel but : White core mage have resistence to power nullification (by logical Arthur's purple flames had resistence to power null) so -> soul fire has 1 layer of power nullifcation and Destruction can resist to soul fire -> so 1 layer of resistence to power nullification.

Idk if it's possible to argue that a powernull who nullifies a powernull gives 1 layer 🤷‍♂️ but with this logic : destruction nullifies Soul fore who could nullifie Arthur's purple flame who has resistence to power null so 2 layer of power nullificication with that's logic.
 
Yeah
I have layers on my revision list
Deconstruction, Fear Hax, BFR, Power Nullification, Regeneration Negation, Perception Manipulation and Mind Manipulation would all get layers in some capacity
After the current thread is done, there will be an abilities thread to add missing Abilities to some characters. The next thread After that will be for layers
See here for the abilities additions
 
working on incorporating the mountain nuking calc (among other things) to the current scaling
I asked DMUA and he said that end can be used if there’s sufficient evidence for characters being in close proximity to the Grand Mountains whenever a mountain nuking statement is made.
Arthur noted that a fight between Mica and Olfred would level a mountain.
Feeling like an academy trainer breaking up a couple overexcited recruits, I gathered water particles from the nearby trees and hosed the dwarves down until they were both dripping wet.
They whipped their heads around at me, eyes glaring.
“Are you guys done or do you want to level a mountain while you’re at it?”
Mica clicked her tongue. “It’s Oldfred’s fault, bringing up a lady’s age.”
“Those born sipping milk from silver goblets need to be educated about their ignorance,” Olfred muttered.
At the time this statement was made, they were all in close proximity to the Grand Mountains. Which makes the statement perfectly acceptable for the mid-end calc.
I spent the entirety of the first day on Sylvie’s back. Without a word muttered to either of the dwarven Lances, we traveled until night fell and my legs, already taxed from the hours of gripping tightly onto the base of my bond’s neck, could no longer take the strain of riding on bare scale, even with the protection of thick cloth and mana.
So, because of my limitations, we stopped for the night and made camp near the base of the Grand Mountains, just a few miles north of Valden City.
“Please, help yourself.” I held out a skewer of grilled fish toward Generals Mica and Olfred.
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Since there were two characters the statement was made in reference to, the calc would be divided into two as a safe assumption. Hence, the primary scaling value would be 975 Gigatons.
Bairon, Alea, Aya, Olfred, and Mica
They would all scale to the primary value (975 Gigatons) as the statement was attributed to Olfred and Mica. The Lances (except Varay) were all portrayed as being roughly relative to each other
Varay
Varay is repeatedly and consistently regarded as the most powerful Lance, I’m proposing that she should actually scale to the full value of the feat (1.95 Teratons). She could subdue the attacks of Bairon and Olfred at once with ease
Arthur
Before addressing his scaling in all this, I want to address something else
Multi-Element Combo
Arthur can combine multiple elemental attacks into a single, more powerful attack. He usually shuffles between 3 and 4 elements. He does this combo by either condensing it into a single beam
Aldir caught my gaze and prepared to lift me up with his aura, but I stopped him. Sending ice, lightning, and wind attribute mana into my palm, I raised my arm and whipped around to face Uto.The thin, translucent beam of fused elements pierced the narrow gap between the two Vritra, creating a crackling gale in its path. The ray shot past them and into the water, and the ocean split from the force of my spell. The waves instantly froze over, then a current of electricity shattered the ice into shards of sparkling glass.
Rather than going for raw power like Elijah, I used my mana efficiently. Still in the air, I coalesced different attributes together to form several condensed bullets of varying colors. With a burst of blue fire, aided by wind magic, the five bullets shot through the air, visible as streaks of light like multicolored lasers.
Or by focusing it into a sword for melee combat
I brought Dawn’s Ballad close to my side, pointing the weapon’s fractured tip at Uto. The runes glowing on my arm burned with a comforting warmth as I began coalescing the mana surrounding me.
The blade of my sword shimmered in a scintillating array of colors as I infused ice, fire, lightning, and wind. No weapon other than Dawn’s Ballad could have held strong with such an overwhelming amount of mana being loaded into it.
“Thank you,” I replied, drawing the sword from its plain steel scabbard. The blade was a pale gold color, about three fingers in width, and slightly longer than Dawn’s Ballad. After testing its balance with a few swings, I began channeling mana into it.
The thin sword hummed as fire, wind, water, and earth magic all began to swirl around the blade in harmony. I continued injecting mana into the sword until I could see the blade beginning to deteriorate from the burden of being imbued with multiple elements.

With this in mind, I’m proposing that Multi-Elemental Combo be given a 4x multiplier off his base attacks
Since that’s out of the way, let’s move to actually scaling him
Third Key
Contrary to popular opinion (seen a lot of it on Reddit), Silver Core Arthur isn’t really at the level of the Lances. It’s mentioned by Arthur himself
Despite being at the mid silver core stage, I felt inadequate sitting there next to the other Lances. With Dawn’s Ballad damaged and my legs debilitated, I felt like I had taken a step back, even after the training at Epheotus. I was certain of one thing: I couldn’t afford to use Burst Step again if I wanted to retain the ability to walk.
Arthur paused, but the crowd remained quiet, patiently waiting for him to speak again. “Born to a humble background, I have been able to climb to where I am now thanks to my family—as well as the friends I met along the way. I am now a Lance, and the youngest one at that, but I’m not the strongest. The Lances out there, some whom are fighting battles as we speak, are far above me in power—yet even I was able to defeat a retainer, one of the so-called ‘highest powers’ of the Alacryan army.”

That being said, he’s not that far behind them when utilizing Realmheart Physique. Bairon displayed some degree of uncertainty when asked if he could defeat Realmheart Physique Arthur
The earth around beneath sank a few feet so that we all had to stand to see the fight. In the distance were two distinct figures. One looked like a translucent statue carved by a master sculptor, while the other seemed like a mighty deity in human form.
“So. Do you think you can beat Arthur in a fight?” Commander Virion casually asked General Bairon.
The Lance remained silent while he imbued the crystal on Emily’s panel with mana, his stern gaze focused on Master Varay and Arthur.

Although useless for scaling since Varay was holding back, she mentioned that there was a chance he could have been holding back
Looking up, I locked eyes with Varay as she returned to her normal form, the ice that enveloped her slowly thawing.
“Good duel, General Arthur,” Varay said, extending a hand.
I grabbed her arm and allowed her to pull me up to my feet. “As expected, there’s still a gap between us.”
“If you were able to hold that form for an extended period of time, there’s a chance you could’ve overpowered me,” Varay admitted.

In support, Arthur’s raw mana output was measured to be in the ninety-ninth percentile which should place him at a level comparable to other Lances
I quickly gathered the array of papers that were scattered all over the ground behind my fpu measuring artifact—working name.
After carefully placing the panel components into the wooden box, I placed the papers equally carefully on top, noticing Arthur’s name on the top sheet. It was the fpu readings I had managed to gather while he was in that angelic form of his where his hair turned white. I’d thought I had lost it.
I shook my head, crumpling up the sheet of paper. “Ninety-ninth percentile. That can’t be right.”
Since he’s inferior but still comparable to the Lances, I’m proposing that he downscales to 550 Gigatons (Baseline High 6-C+) with Realmheart Physique, up to 2.2 Teratons with Multi-Element Combo
that's pretty much the scaling explanation
Regular scythes are looking at scaling to Country level (8.8 Teratons), Victoriad Arthur, Cadell, Wraiths and lower level Asuras would be scaling to High 6-B (264 Teratons). Other high level characters would be scaling to Mica's black hole in varying degrees (still working on the kinks for that

Thoughts?
 
working on incorporating the mountain nuking calc (among other things) to the current scaling
I asked DMUA and he said that end can be used if there’s sufficient evidence for characters being in close proximity to the Grand Mountains whenever a mountain nuking statement is made.
Arthur noted that a fight between Mica and Olfred would level a mountain.

At the time this statement was made, they were all in close proximity to the Grand Mountains. Which makes the statement perfectly acceptable for the mid-end calc.

163
Since there were two characters the statement was made in reference to, the calc would be divided into two as a safe assumption. Hence, the primary scaling value would be 975 Gigatons.
Bairon, Alea, Aya, Olfred, and Mica
They would all scale to the primary value (975 Gigatons) as the statement was attributed to Olfred and Mica. The Lances (except Varay) were all portrayed as being roughly relative to each other
Varay
Varay is repeatedly and consistently regarded as the most powerful Lance, I’m proposing that she should actually scale to the full value of the feat (1.95 Teratons). She could subdue the attacks of Bairon and Olfred at once with ease
Arthur
Before addressing his scaling in all this, I want to address something else
Multi-Element Combo
Arthur can combine multiple elemental attacks into a single, more powerful attack. He usually shuffles between 3 and 4 elements. He does this combo by either condensing it into a single beam


Or by focusing it into a sword for melee combat



With this in mind, I’m proposing that Multi-Elemental Combo be given a 4x multiplier off his base attacks
Since that’s out of the way, let’s move to actually scaling him
Third Key
Contrary to popular opinion (seen a lot of it on Reddit), Silver Core Arthur isn’t really at the level of the Lances. It’s mentioned by Arthur himself



That being said, he’s not that far behind them when utilizing Realmheart Physique. Bairon displayed some degree of uncertainty when asked if he could defeat Realmheart Physique Arthur


Although useless for scaling since Varay was holding back, she mentioned that there was a chance he could have been holding back


In support, Arthur’s raw mana output was measured to be in the ninety-ninth percentile which should place him at a level comparable to other Lances

Since he’s inferior but still comparable to the Lances, I’m proposing that he downscales to 550 Gigatons (Baseline High 6-C+) with Realmheart Physique, up to 2.2 Teratons with Multi-Element Combo
that's pretty much the scaling explanation
Regular scythes are looking at scaling to Country level (8.8 Teratons), Victoriad Arthur, Cadell, Wraiths and lower level Asuras would be scaling to High 6-B (264 Teratons). Other high level characters would be scaling to Mica's black hole in varying degrees (still working on the kinks for that

Thoughts?
Well, sounds interesting
 
working on incorporating the mountain nuking calc (among other things) to the current scaling
I asked DMUA and he said that end can be used if there’s sufficient evidence for characters being in close proximity to the Grand Mountains whenever a mountain nuking statement is made.
Arthur noted that a fight between Mica and Olfred would level a mountain.

At the time this statement was made, they were all in close proximity to the Grand Mountains. Which makes the statement perfectly acceptable for the mid-end calc.

163
Since there were two characters the statement was made in reference to, the calc would be divided into two as a safe assumption. Hence, the primary scaling value would be 975 Gigatons.
Bairon, Alea, Aya, Olfred, and Mica
They would all scale to the primary value (975 Gigatons) as the statement was attributed to Olfred and Mica. The Lances (except Varay) were all portrayed as being roughly relative to each other
Varay
Varay is repeatedly and consistently regarded as the most powerful Lance, I’m proposing that she should actually scale to the full value of the feat (1.95 Teratons). She could subdue the attacks of Bairon and Olfred at once with ease
Arthur
Before addressing his scaling in all this, I want to address something else
Multi-Element Combo
Arthur can combine multiple elemental attacks into a single, more powerful attack. He usually shuffles between 3 and 4 elements. He does this combo by either condensing it into a single beam


Or by focusing it into a sword for melee combat



With this in mind, I’m proposing that Multi-Elemental Combo be given a 4x multiplier off his base attacks
Since that’s out of the way, let’s move to actually scaling him
Third Key
Contrary to popular opinion (seen a lot of it on Reddit), Silver Core Arthur isn’t really at the level of the Lances. It’s mentioned by Arthur himself



That being said, he’s not that far behind them when utilizing Realmheart Physique. Bairon displayed some degree of uncertainty when asked if he could defeat Realmheart Physique Arthur


Although useless for scaling since Varay was holding back, she mentioned that there was a chance he could have been holding back


In support, Arthur’s raw mana output was measured to be in the ninety-ninth percentile which should place him at a level comparable to other Lances

Since he’s inferior but still comparable to the Lances, I’m proposing that he downscales to 550 Gigatons (Baseline High 6-C+) with Realmheart Physique, up to 2.2 Teratons with Multi-Element Combo
that's pretty much the scaling explanation
Regular scythes are looking at scaling to Country level (8.8 Teratons), Victoriad Arthur, Cadell, Wraiths and lower level Asuras would be scaling to High 6-B (264 Teratons). Other high level characters would be scaling to Mica's black hole in varying degrees (still working on the kinks for that

Thoughts?
W
 
working on incorporating the mountain nuking calc (among other things) to the current scaling
I asked DMUA and he said that end can be used if there’s sufficient evidence for characters being in close proximity to the Grand Mountains whenever a mountain nuking statement is made.
Arthur noted that a fight between Mica and Olfred would level a mountain.

At the time this statement was made, they were all in close proximity to the Grand Mountains. Which makes the statement perfectly acceptable for the mid-end calc.

163
Since there were two characters the statement was made in reference to, the calc would be divided into two as a safe assumption. Hence, the primary scaling value would be 975 Gigatons.
Bairon, Alea, Aya, Olfred, and Mica
They would all scale to the primary value (975 Gigatons) as the statement was attributed to Olfred and Mica. The Lances (except Varay) were all portrayed as being roughly relative to each other
Varay
Varay is repeatedly and consistently regarded as the most powerful Lance, I’m proposing that she should actually scale to the full value of the feat (1.95 Teratons). She could subdue the attacks of Bairon and Olfred at once with ease
Arthur
Before addressing his scaling in all this, I want to address something else
Multi-Element Combo
Arthur can combine multiple elemental attacks into a single, more powerful attack. He usually shuffles between 3 and 4 elements. He does this combo by either condensing it into a single beam


Or by focusing it into a sword for melee combat



With this in mind, I’m proposing that Multi-Elemental Combo be given a 4x multiplier off his base attacks
Since that’s out of the way, let’s move to actually scaling him
Third Key
Contrary to popular opinion (seen a lot of it on Reddit), Silver Core Arthur isn’t really at the level of the Lances. It’s mentioned by Arthur himself



That being said, he’s not that far behind them when utilizing Realmheart Physique. Bairon displayed some degree of uncertainty when asked if he could defeat Realmheart Physique Arthur


Although useless for scaling since Varay was holding back, she mentioned that there was a chance he could have been holding back


In support, Arthur’s raw mana output was measured to be in the ninety-ninth percentile which should place him at a level comparable to other Lances

Since he’s inferior but still comparable to the Lances, I’m proposing that he downscales to 550 Gigatons (Baseline High 6-C+) with Realmheart Physique, up to 2.2 Teratons with Multi-Element Combo
that's pretty much the scaling explanation
Regular scythes are looking at scaling to Country level (8.8 Teratons), Victoriad Arthur, Cadell, Wraiths and lower level Asuras would be scaling to High 6-B (264 Teratons). Other high level characters would be scaling to Mica's black hole in varying degrees (still working on the kinks for that

Thoughts?
Hello, I have a question. I just reread volumes 8 and 9, and I realized something. Should Caera, enhanced with Soulfire and the bracelet she stole from the birds, scale alongside Arthur’s Aether Core (before the second layer)?


In chapter 356, we see that she is able to damage millipede, which withstands several of Arthur’s attacks.
Caera braced herself as the millipede shifted its attention on her. It let out a whistling screech and surged toward her. Gathering as much aether into my hands as I quickly could, I punched straight up. The chitinous underbelly cracked, and the millipede's body jerked, the legs scrabbling at the crystal-covered dirt. I punched again and again, creating a series of broken craters along the underside of its body, but it wasn't enough to slow it down or reclaim its attention. The silver shards of Caera's artifact were spinning rapidly in front of her, no longer firing projectiles. Instead, a steady beam of soulfire connected them, forming a thin barrier in front of her. As I prepared to grab the millipede's legs in a last ditch effort to hold it back, a third satellite broke loose from the bracer, then a forth, and they joined with the others. The thin barrier bloomed into a wall of black fire an instant before the millipede struck it. Caera's eyes sharpened as she leaned forward, focusing on holding the defensive barrier in place. The impact shook the den, and the millipede's body crumpled up like a derailed train as the front end suddenly stopped, but the back end kept churning forward. The mandibles opened wide, trying to close around the edges of the soulfire shield. Black-purple sparks flew wherever the aether-clad millipede touched the dark flames, scorching everything they landed on. The dark light reflected off the sweat clinging to Caera's face, highlighting her features. Her teeth were bared in a grimace of concentration, her scarlet eyes blazing like they too had been set aflame.
Although Caera's strength varies a lot in the following volumes (since the Alacryans use and scale their power based on the rune system rather than Dicathen’s core system). Could Caera’s bracelet + Soulfire be scaled?
 
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Although Caera's strength varies a lot in the following volumes (since the Alacryans use and scale their power based on the rune system rather than Dicathen’s core system). Could Caera’s bracelet + Soulfire be scaled?
I'm aware of the feat. I just left it out because I wasn't sure of the scaling
How consistently does she use it? It's fine if it's a one-off feat but it becomes an issue if it's part of her primary arsenal. She's, by self admission, weaker than Cylrit. Who's weaker than war arc nico. Who, in turn, is weaker than this version of Arthur.
 
new thread
 
Can anyone provide the actual quote where TM said Arthur can beat Windsom?
So I can get the full context behind it
It's kinda important now given that the next thread relies on people scaling to Windsom
 
Can anyone provide the actual quote where TM said Arthur can beat Windsom?
So I can get the full context behind it
It's kinda important now given that the next thread relies on people scaling to Windsom
I think it was in one of patreon Q&As , there was a scene where the warrior asuras including Windsom were wary of Arthur (somewhere before he started the fourth keystone)
 
I found the full quote which is nice
Q: How strong are Arthur and Sylvie? Does Arthur have the strength to defeat someone as strong as Aldir or Windsom? Also why hasn't Sylvie used her dragon form? - caltheiii

A: Very strong, lol. I would say Arthur definitely has the strength to handle Windsom, but I don't think he's at the level yet to defeat Aldir. There would have to be other factors involved. And as for why Sylvie hasn't used her dragon form, there hasn't been a need to yet. :o
My issue is (which wasn't an issue before) is that Arthur has a fair bit of stat amps. So I can't definitely say if Arthur slams in base or with Aether Swords or with Burst Strike. I'm very much leaning to the second one since that's his go-to choice of combat.
So Arthur's 3rd layer would be like this:
5-C (Should be at least 3x weaker than his Aether Blade 140 Exatons), Low 5-B with Aether Blade (Noted to be capable of defeating Windsom 433 Exatons), 5-B with Burst Strike (200x amp 86 Zettatons), higher with Aether Blade Burst Strike (3x stronger than before 259 Zettatons)
Aldir and Co would be scaling to the last value there
Thoughts?
 
final thread
 
final thread
were did you get WE planet level ?
 
Arthur's base AP(140ish exatons) x 3 (Aether Blade multiplier) x 200 (Burst strike) x 3 (Aether Blade Burst Strike) = 86 Zettatons (5-B)
 

Y'all should engage
 
Shouldn't Aether Core Arthur have the same (and even better) resistances than white core mages , (as he isn't just stronger but aether is more potent than mana)?
And i think we should note the layers somewhere on the profiles
 
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Shouldn't Aether Core Arthur have the same (and even better) resistances than white core mages , (as he isn't just stronger but aether is more potent than mana)?
He already has most of the resistances via other means (mind manipulation/illusion creation/absolute zero etc)
True, Aether is stated to be more potent than mana pound for pound
But I'm CRT weary at this point
And i think we should note the layers somewhere on the profiles
I believe the verse page would be best as they can actually read up on the explanation
But I'm not opposed to listing it the profiles
 
He already has most of the resistances via other means (mind manipulation/illusion creation/absolute zero etc)
True, Aether is stated to be more potent than mana pound for pound
But I'm CRT weary at this point

I believe the verse page would be best as they can actually read up on the explanation
But I'm not opposed to listing it the profiles
Then I'll maybe do it soon as i think stating Arthur's resistances is a good idea because he should have electricity/acid resistance and it would be easier to understand how high is his heat resistance. I think I'll maybe do the mini-crt about it
 
Then I'll maybe do it soon as i think stating Arthur's resistances is a good idea because he should have electricity/acid resistance and it would be easier to understand how high is his heat resistance. I think I'll maybe do the mini-crt about it
This is the scan
Not bad, I thought. Ounce for ounce—or whatever unit of measurement was used—aether was much more potent and efficient than mana. Still, I wasn’t satisfied.
Should be useful to get resistances that depend on Mana augmentation (absolute zero, electricity Manipulation etc)
 
This is the scan

Should be useful to get resistances that depend on Mana augmentation (absolute zero, electricity Manipulation etc)
right now i have enough stuff to make a CRT on Arthur with fate manipulation but by reading chapter 504/505, Arthur have a lot of new stuff in hax, Aslo i have some hax correction to make so i will make all of this in 1 CRT or i'll make few ?
 
right now i have enough stuff to make a CRT on Arthur with fate manipulation but by reading chapter 504/505, Arthur have a lot of new stuff in hax, Aslo i have some hax correction to make so i will make all of this in 1 CRT or i'll make few ?

Arthur with Fate Edict :
Fate Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (type 2), NPI Fate : With fate manipulation, Arthur is able to interact with threads of Fate, those thread are connected with the world itself (With the Fate attribute), Legacy thread is connected to the universe itself. In Tbate universe means the cosmology itslelf because Legacy is appliable even in the other world (like the world of ki who's another universe), universe means all the physical realm.
-> About the range, he could supress Legacy concept who's connected to the Physical realm so it's at least Low Multiversal and possibly higher (knowing that they are many other universe in the Physical realm)


Fate Manipulation, Causality manipulation : Arthur is able to erase potential furur, he can pull on the threads Fate, Destroying all futur when Cecilia is Agrona's possession and weapon. he can prevent his opponents' possible attacks and movements by erasing them from the future. For example, if I need to send a fireball, I can erase the action of creating the fireball in the future to prevent it from happening.
-> In application it's like Power Nullification and it's have Statut Inducement on Mind (Agrona cannot moved after have been his future erased)

Extra Sensory Perception (time itself + Fate), Precognition, Retrocognotion, NPI (causality/history), Conceptual manipulation, Causality manipulation : Arthur is able to see the past and the future (history/causality) of someone thanks to thread of Fate, he is able to interract with them and change them/remove them (like he did with Agrona). Arthur is able to see the aspect of Fate who is trapped in the time, outside the physical and 3 dimensional space between layer of the world.

Causality manipulation, Reality warping, BFR, Soul Manipulation : After Cecilia and Nico died in the mana realm, Arthur sent them back to their pre-reincarnation universes, i.e. their first lives. However, as Cecilia mentions, They weren’t literally reincarnated in a new body or as a new existence, but rather their original existence has been altered in a way to allow them to live as perfectly normal individuals with no ki, no mana, no legacy. The fact that they have new memories implies that he has modified events in the timeline to incorporate them.Thanks to Arthur, Cecilia could live without legacy who was engraved into her existence.
-> About the range : Arthur done from an another universe, he was physically into the Mana Realm and they send their sould and rewrite their existence in the Ki Realm so it's at least Interdimensional range. It's also have Memory Manipulation effect.

Arthur New Godrune (No name currently) :
BFR, Spatial Manipaltion, Pocket Reality Manipulation : Arthur was able to create a pocket dimension into which he took Tbate's Makora, the dimension has no physical limit, it's like an empty space.

-> About the range he could do this only actually on people before him with at best few hundred of meters. It would be probably higher in future with more mastery on this new Godrune.

God Step Additions :

Conceptual Manipulation, spatial manipulation, NPI : When Arthur uses God Step, he has access to the ethereal paths that link every point in space throughout the ethereal realm, and Arthur is able to create his own paths. He can also with God step can manifest space paths and create a gap between the Aether realm and reality.

BFR, Immortality Negation (type 4 and 8), Space Manipulation :
How did Arthur get past the imortality of Tbate's Makora? By creating a hole in the worlds (like portal), Arthur sent the future incarnations of Makora into the Aether realm, severing their link with Epheotus and allowing them to burn indefinitely, surpassing their now limited degree of resurection as they were no longer connected to Epheotus. This is immortality negation type 8. What's more, he can surpass the type 4 immortality (via resurection) of the beasts by being able to erase them all while in the Aether realm. (immo negation type 4 and 8)If I go further, it's impossible to override the beast in Epheotus as it cumulates the effects of type 8 and 4 at the same time, but by sending the respawn point into the Aether realm, it cuts the type 8 immo and can then override the type 4 immo.

King's Gambit Additions :
Self-Perception Manipulation
: Thanks to the King's gambit, Arthur is able to increase his speed of thought and his senses to perceive elements that are usually unperceivable. Here Arthur with king gambit could be aware of space changing as he teleported (as he moved from point A to B), in short, his speed of perception was vastly superior to his basic form, as he could perceive landscape changes and the like. Note that King gambit for Arthur generally operates passively.
-> So in his profile we could put : MFTL+ (perception speed) blablabla, far higher with King Gambit

Destruction Additions :
Resistence to Existence Erasure
(body, mind, soul), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)
 
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Arthur with Fate Edict :
Fate Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (type 2), NPI Fate : With fate manipulation, Arthur is able to interact with threads of Fate, those thread are connected with the world itself (With the Fate attribute), Legacy thread is connected to the universe itself. In Tbate universe means the cosmology itslelf because Legacy is appliable even in the other world (like the world of ki who's another universe), universe means all the physical realm.
-> About the range, he could supress Legacy concept who's connected to the Physical realm so it's at least Low Multiversal and possibly higher (knowing that they are many other universe in the Physical realm)


Fate Manipulation, Causality manipulation : Arthur is able to erase potential furur, he can pull on the threads Fate, Destroying all futur when Cecilia is Agrona's possession and weapon. he can prevent his opponents' possible attacks and movements by erasing them from the future. For example, if I need to send a fireball, I can erase the action of creating the fireball in the future to prevent it from happening.
-> In application it's like Power Nullification and it's have Statut Inducement on Mind (Agrona cannot moved after have been his future erased)

Extra Sensory Perception (time itself + Fate), Precognition, Retrocognotion, NPI (causality/history), Conceptual manipulation, Causality manipulation : Arthur is able to see the past and the future (history/causality) of someone thanks to thread of Fate, he is able to interract with them and change them/remove them (like he did with Agrona). Arthur is able to see the aspect of Fate who is trapped in the time, outside the physical and 3 dimensional space between layer of the world.

Causality manipulation, Reality warping, BFR, Soul Manipulation : After Cecilia and Nico died in the mana realm, Arthur sent them back to their pre-reincarnation universes, i.e. their first lives. However, as Cecilia mentions, They weren’t literally reincarnated in a new body or as a new existence, but rather their original existence has been altered in a way to allow them to live as perfectly normal individuals with no ki, no mana, no legacy. The fact that they have new memories implies that he has modified events in the timeline to incorporate them.Thanks to Arthur, Cecilia could live without legacy who was engraved into her existence.
-> About the range : Arthur done from an another universe, he was physically into the Mana Realm and they send their sould and rewrite their existence in the Ki Realm so it's at least Interdimensional range. It's also have Memory Manipulation effect.

Arthur New Godrune (No name currently) :
BFR, Spatial Manipaltion, Pocket Reality Manipulation : Arthur was able to create a pocket dimension into which he took Tbate's Makora, the dimension has no physical limit, it's like an empty space.

-> About the range he could do this only actually on people before him with at best few hundred of meters. It would be probably higher in future with more mastery on this new Godrune.

God Step Additions :

Conceptual Manipulation, spatial manipulation, NPI : When Arthur uses God Step, he has access to the ethereal paths that link every point in space throughout the ethereal realm, and Arthur is able to create his own paths. He can also with God step can manifest space paths and create a gap between the Aether realm and reality.

BFR, Immortality Negation (type 4 and 8), Space Manipulation :
How did Arthur get past the imortality of Tbate's Makora? By creating a hole in the worlds (like portal), Arthur sent the future incarnations of Makora into the Aether realm, severing their link with Epheotus and allowing them to burn indefinitely, surpassing their now limited degree of resurection as they were no longer connected to Epheotus. This is immortality negation type 8. What's more, he can surpass the type 4 immortality (via resurection) of the beasts by being able to erase them all while in the Aether realm. (immo negation type 4 and 8)If I go further, it's impossible to override the beast in Epheotus as it cumulates the effects of type 8 and 4 at the same time, but by sending the respawn point into the Aether realm, it cuts the type 8 immo and can then override the type 4 immo.

King's Gambit Additions :
Self-Perception Manipulation
: Thanks to the King's gambit, Arthur is able to increase his speed of thought and his senses to perceive elements that are usually unperceivable. Here Arthur with king gambit could be aware of space changing as he teleported (as he moved from point A to B), in short, his speed of perception was vastly superior to his basic form, as he could perceive landscape changes and the like. Note that King gambit for Arthur generally operates passively.
-> So in his profile we could put : MFTL+ (perception speed) blablabla, far higher with King Gambit

Destruction Additions :
Resistence to Existence Erasure
(body, mind, soul), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)
So after time, i will do a CRT on fate, another on the rest.
 
You can make the fate manipulation in one thread since that's more complex
you can make thw corrections in a separate thread
the other new stuffs should wait though
Arthur would be getting a new key depending on feats shown in the raid arc. So those abilities can be added then
 
You can make the fate manipulation in one thread since that's more complex
you can make thw corrections in a separate thread
the other new stuffs should wait though
Arthur would be getting a new key depending on feats shown in the raid arc. So those abilities can be added then
okkk
 
Some corrections/additions (up to volume 11)

"My gaze flashed to Caera as I felt the oppressive aura of her soulfire, which cloaked her blade in black flame. She swung wide, bisecting three aether golems. The soulfire around her weapon spread through the center of the aetheric beings, eating away the captured snow and ice. However, I could still see the purplish mists, and they were already collecting snow from the ground to fashion themselves new bodies."
Also here they are the complet scan

  • About this, it was set previoulsy as Regeneration Negation : High (because Arthur PN Aether Golem's Regeneration) But in fact it's more like : Conceptual Manipulation type 2 (obv because it's Aether) and also Immortality type 8 Negation (high) because with his Aether attack he was able to disallow the golem to take their Regeneration. Those Golem Regeneration are based on the Environnement and Arthur cut this bound by destroying the source of this immortality itself. Thought that it's better than Regeneration Negation 🤷‍♂️.
This is for God Step's range.

Panel here. (WN volume 9)

-> We know that he supervised the Victoriad by escaping from the stadium using God Step. Concerning the official information: the Victoriad stadium is 219 meters long, then we know from this panel that his landing point was in a place where he was alone with Alaric and there were trees around. Knowing that the Victoriad is an attractive event, it's logical that the surrounding area should be full of people, especially as the stadium has been half-destroyed and Arthur is sought after by the whole of Alacrya, Arthur's landing point should be a long way from the Victoriad stadium. It's probably at least several kilometers away, if not dozens of kilometers if it's outside the city. That's because he's in an area with no real habitation and he's on the run.

I'd put his God Step range at a minimum of 10km.

Then in AC3 he gains a multiplier of 10 on the potential of all his stats as he has more ether and as God Step works with ether consumption he can go at least 10 times further than before so the range goes up to 100km. It could go even further, because when Arthur crashed, it was after facing Nico and Cadell, and his ether reserves were low.

So in AC2 : kilometers to tens of kilometers to higher, in AC3 : tens of kilometers to hundreds of kilometrs to higher
 
Hello guys. I like that you gave your opinion on granting Arthur (Aether Core) these abilities.


Weapon Control: Arthur is capable of controlling multiple swords with his mind. (For some reason, this is not in the profile, even though it is one of Arthur's most useful abilities in volume 11)

Inconvenience Probability Manipulation and Reality Warping: Some wills are so powerful that they can rewrite probability and potential, forcing reality to change and manifest that future into existence. (Chapter 482).

Unconventional Reality Warping, Destiny Manipulation, and Social Influence: Arthur's mere presence alters and modifies reality. Destiny has been helping and guiding him throughout the story, which is why he didn't lose his memory upon reincarnation. Also, as Wren mentions, Arthur is an atypical being when it comes to calculated probabilities. The social influence aspect is explained by Agrona. (Chapter 124, 341, 448, 477, 479, 480)

Immortality Type 8 (Which grants him Immortality Type 3): Arthur is a being of flesh and Aether. He regenerates from his Aether core and the Aether itself (as long as the core is intact, though he has also shown the ability to regenerate the surface of his shell). He can regenerate entire organs and limbs. His neck was cut, and his heart was stabbed; Arthur fell "lifeless" (later explaining that he had to let himself be hurt to undergo the trial), fell to the ground, and then, after regenerating, stood up again. He was crushed by rocks and pierced by metal bars, leaving his body shattered, but despite the severity of the attack, he remained partially conscious (Immortality Type 2?). He should be able to regenerate from any physical damage (as long as his core is intact) and include regenerating his soul (since Aether can regenerate the soul), as long as he has Aether. Although I'm not sure if this has any value, Gidion mentions that Arthur is nearly immortal. (Chapter 257, 263, 272, 346, 358, 392, Volume 11 extra chapter 1).

Note: In the screenshots, I have added two images that show the enhancement of his body and regeneration are part of Aether Vivum. (Though I'm not sure if they would be useful)

Aether Arts Negation: Thanks to his core’s connection with Aether and the new understanding of Aether that Arthur obtained through Fate, he can now negate Aether arts. This means he has the ability to negate the manipulation of Vivum (existence → life, death, creation, and destruction), Spatium (space-void), and Aevum (time). This was demonstrated when he negated Kezess’s Static Void and later Sylvie’s time stop and time deceleration (in volumes 10 and 11, respectively). After the events with Fate, Arthur negated Kezess’s teleportation and, subsequently, the offensive fire mana and Aether spell cast against him. Additionally, he can integrate Regis into his armor and then transfer it to Sylvie, sealing her Aetheric abilities.

Resistance to Aether Manipulation: According to Arthur, mana does not provide strong protection against aether arts (which means it does offer some protection against aether. Additionally, mages who are sufficiently powerful in mana manipulation can resist the effects and clash against the aether sword, like Cecilia). In retrospect, Arthur’s aether should offer him protection against aether in general.

Durability negation (Aether Sword): Simply imbuing your sword with Aether is capable of cutting through space, allowing Arthur to damage Cadell. A "normal" sword imbued with Aether < a sword made of Aether. The Aether sword is capable of distorting reality, effortlessly cutting through mana (of regular mages), objects, and beasts (beasts capable of withstanding the blows of Mica and Lyra). (Chapter 235, 361, 379, 416)

Self-Sustenance Type 1 + Spatial Survival: Arthur is capable of surviving in space. He doesn't seem affected by the lack of oxygen when he's in the Aether realm or in outer space. (Chapter 480)

Resistance to Sleep Induction Manipulation: Scaling to Sylvie, who has an Asura body.

Resistance to Aether Absorption and Life Force: Arthur is capable of resisting Aether absorption traps (Chapter 285), as Aether follows his life force. He can surround his allies with Aether, preventing Cecilia from absorbing and stealing their mana (and with it, their life force). Arthur can also surround Ellie's arrows with Aether, granting them power.

All Resistances Granted by Mana & Resistance to Cadell’s Soul Fire:
Aether is a more powerful energy than mana, so Arthur possesses all the resistances granted by mana. Arthur is unaffected by Cadell’s soul fire and can regenerate from it, as it is a fire that burns life force and negated Sylvie’s Aether Vivum abilities. Therefore, he would have resistance to negation of life manipulation.

Destruction ---> Aura: By connecting with the Rune of Destruction, Arthur can manifest an aura that protects him.

Thank you for reading, tomorrow I will read your opinions and edit my comment by adding the corresponding screenshots that are missing.
 
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Hey guys. I would like you to give your opinion about granting Arthur (Aether Core) these abilities.
Weapon Control: Arthur is able to control multiple swords with his mind. (For some reason, this isn’t in the profile, even though it is one of Arthur’s most useful abilities in volume 11)

Unconventional Probability Manipulation and Reality Warping: Some wills are so powerful that they can rewrite probability and potential, forcing reality to change and manifest that future into existence. (Chapter 482).

Unconventional Reality Warping, Fate Manipulation, and Social Influence: Arthur's mere presence alters and modifies reality. Fate has been helping and guiding him throughout the story, which is why he didn’t lose his memory when reincarnating. Additionally, as Wren mentioned, Arthur is an atypical being when it comes to calculating probabilities. Social influence aspect is explained by Agrona.

Immortality Type 8 (Which grants him Immortality Type 3): Arthur is a being of flesh and aether. He regenerates from his aether core and the aether itself (as long as the core is intact, although he has also demonstrated the ability to regenerate the surface of his shell). He can regenerate complete organs and limbs. His neck was slashed, and his heart was stabbed; Arthur fell "lifeless" (later explaining that he had to let himself be injured to pass the trial), fell to the ground, and then, after regenerating, got back up. He was crushed by rocks and pierced by metal bars, leaving his body shattered, but despite the severity of the attack, he remained partially conscious (Immortality Type 2?). He can also survive direct attacks that pierce his skull. He should be able to regenerate from any physical damage (as long as his core is intact) and even regenerate his soul (Since aether can regenerate the soul.), as long as he has aether. Although I'm not sure if this serves any purpose, Gidion mentions that Arthur is almost immortal.

Aether Arts Negation: Thanks to the new understanding of aether that Arthur gained through Fate, he can now negate aether arts. This means he would have the ability to negate the manipulation of Vivum (existence → life, death, creation, and destruction), Spatium (space-void), and Aevum (time).

Resistance to Aether Manipulation: According to Arthur, mana does not provide strong protection against aether arts (which means it does offer some protection against aether, albeit minimal). Additionally, mages who are sufficiently powerful in mana manipulation can resist the effects and clash against the aether sword, like Cecilia. In retrospect, Arthur's aether should provide him with protection against aether-related hax in general.

Durability negation (Aether Sword): Simply imbuing your sword with aether is capable of cutting through space, allowing Arthur to damage Cadell. A "normal" sword imbued with aether < an aether-made sword. The aether sword is capable of distorting reality, effortlessly cutting through mana, objects, and beasts (beasts capable of withstanding blows from Mica and Lyra). (chapter 235, 361, 379, 416)

Self-Sustenance Type 1 + Space Survival: Arthur is capable of surviving in space. He appears unaffected by the lack of oxygen when in the aether realm or outer space. (Chapter 480)

Resistance to Sleep Induction Manipulation: Scaling to Sylvie, who has an Asura body.

Resistance to Aetheric Absorption and Vital Force: Arthur is capable of resisting aether absorption traps (chapter 285), with aether being his life force. He can surround his allies with aether, preventing Cecilia from absorbing and stealing their mana (and with it, their life force). He can also surround Ellie’s arrows with aether, granting them power.

All Resistances Granted by Mana & Resistance to Cadell’s Soul Fire: Aether is a more powerful energy than mana, so Arthur possesses all the resistances granted by mana. Arthur is unaffected by Cadell’s soul fire and can regenerate from it, as it is a fire that burns life force and negated Sylvie’s Aether Vivum abilities. Therefore, he would have resistance to the negation of life manipulation.

Destruction ---> Aura: By connecting with the Rune of Destruction, Arthur can manifest an aura that protects him.

Thank you for reading, tomorrow I will read your opinions and edit my comment by adding the corresponding screenshots that are missing.
All looks good though i don't remember him negating other aether arts
 
I agree with some and have issues with some but regarding Immortality, didn't TM mention in a QnA that Arthur can't live forever?
That kinda defeats the whole point of Immortality
 
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