Tanjiro (Demon Slayer) VS Tae Mu-Kang (LOTNB)

[Rikimarox2]

Isn't it based on killing intent and therefore his Fear Manipulation? Tanjiro resists Fear Manipulation and Paralysis Inducement is arguably more severe than merely being slowed down.

Nah, even though it's from his killing intent, but the MC didn't get feared but got slowed down, so having resistance to Paralysis or Fear won't negate this.

Tanjiro can also predict his opponent's attacks via smell and through Transparent World he views the world in slow motion and can make predictions of his opponent's movements by directly observing their muscles and blood flow, so he should be able to see these attacks coming and be able to dodge them.

Other than the slow motion bit, everything else ain't really a problem, he already defeated many martial art masters. Said martial art masters have an ability called "Perception", which allowed them to perceive their opponent's next moves by their gaze and the twitching of their muscles. Tae fodderized many of them, including one of the best ones.

That would rely on Tanjiro missing Tae's neck or aiming at his limbs to make him an easier target. It doesn't seem like as if Tae's Regeneration allows him to reattach or regrow lost limbs.

He can't regenerate limbs, no. Not that it matters, because if he does cut his limb, then Tae will get pissed or cautious, and either adapt the **** out of tanjiro, or more likely, just use his absorption.

Tanjiro in this key is described as being on the level of a Pillar with the Pillars being the strongest demon slayers of the Demon Slayer Corps. This statement comes from Giyu who is part of the generation of Pillars in the events of the story and his generation is considered to be the most formidable one of the last 500 years. He also wields the Breath of the Sun which is a style of swordsmanship that is so hard to master that no one outside of his family or the inventor of the style was ever able to learn it even if they were highly accomplished swordsmen or extremely talented and there are two characters in the story who managed to become Pillars two months after they first picked up a sword.

Ain't really a problem. Dudes in LOTNB begin learning martial arts when they are six to seven years old, and one of the most talented ones is Dam Soo-Cheon, who could master new martial arts in a very short time-frame, and had shit that many other martial artists could dream for. There are people who kept training all of their lives, such as Mu-Jin, who kept 24-hour training almost all his life, neglecting everything else, and he said he doesn't even hold a candle to Dam Soo-Cheon, despite Dam being only 18 years old.

Dam managed to defeat 100 martial artists, many of them being masters (Granted, it was a challenge, 1v1ing everyone and shit). Not to mention, in terms of talent, he scales way above people like Mu-Sang, who in a single month, was able to master his martial arts and go toe-to-toe with someone who he couldn't even touch the seams of their clothes just a month prior, and he said he doesn't stand a sliver of a chance against Dam, as he's way too talented.

Tae beat the ever living shit out of Dam, with this being Dam's first ever loss. And it was a humiliating defeat.

And Tae already fought against Jin, and the martial arts that Jin mastered (Or was practicing and close to mastering when he fought Tae) was stated to be like impossible to memorize all of it, let alone master it, and yet Jin did. With the only reason Tae even having trouble against Jin is due to his immense skill and the fact that he had an analytical prediction that scaled way above the "Precision" one, making everything around feel like an absolute domain of his. And even still, Tae eventually won.

And if the novel will follow the same route as the Manhwa, then Tae scales to Jin who could master new martial arts with a simple glance when others couldn't even properly use it even after 10 years of learning.

Tanjiro managed to dodge Akaza's Danmaku attack which consisted of a hundred invisible shockwaves from all directions without Akaza noticing that Tanjiro managed to dodge it until Tanjiro began to speak while he was behind Akaza.

Danmaku then probably ain't that much of a problem, although it will cause some stress, and if either one of it hits Tanjiro, the force will transfer to his organs.

 

[Rikimarox2]

All in all, I believe Tae has a higher chance of winning this. If he ever feels threatened, like that one time where he felt the MC will kill him in a single strike, I'm sure he'll immediately use his absorption.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Nah, even though it's from his killing intent, but the MC didn't get feared but got slowed down, so having resistance to Paralysis or Fear won't negate this.

Other than the slow motion bit, everything else ain't really a problem, he already defeated many martial art masters. Said martial art masters have an ability called "Perception", which allowed them to perceive their opponent's next moves by their gaze and the twitching of their muscles. Tae fodderized many of them, including one of the best ones.

He can't regenerate limbs, no. Not that it matters, because if he does cut his limb, then Tae will get pissed or cautious, and either adapt the **** out of tanjiro, or more likely, just use his absorption.

Ain't really a problem. Dudes in LOTNB begin learning martial arts when they are six to seven years old, and one of the most talented ones is Dam Soo-Cheon, who could master new martial arts in a very short time-frame, and had shit that many other martial artists could dream for. There are people who kept training all of their lives, such as Mu-Jin, who kept 24-hour training almost all his life, neglecting everything else, and he said he doesn't even hold a candle to Dam Soo-Cheon, despite Dam being only 18 years old.

The Fear Manipulation and Paralysis Inducement Resistance comes from resisting the effects of Battle Spirit which is an overwhelming Aura which is based on the intent to fight, so that seems close enough to killing intent to me especially since the Statistics Reduction is described as being because of the pressure of the killing intent. Tanjiro also possesses Reactive Power Level that allows him to adapt to those who casually outclass him in terms of power and speed with him getting faster the longer a fight lasts and having explosive growth in critical moments.

These abilities are the result of the Transparent World ability which not only has Precognition and Analytical Prediction but also Information Analysis and Enhanced Sight that allows Tanjiro to straight up see into the insides of Tae's body and see things like how his body is trained and if he has any illnesses which is how he can directly see muscles and blood flow. It also makes him resistant against Enhanced Senses, Precognition and Extrasensory Perception. Tanjiro's sense of smell can detect what sort of person someone is, what they feel and to an extent how strong they are.

I've realized that Tanjiro's Breath of the Sun has High-Mid Regeneration Negation, so Tae Mu-Kang can't regenerate no matter where Tanjiro strikes and if the injury is debilitating, then Tae Mu-Kang won't be able to recover from that.

The thing is that Breath of the Sun couldn't be learned or matched by anyone outside of Tanjiro's family and the inventor of the style for 500 years and that includes Kokushibo who trained for these 500 years as a demon who doesn't need to sleep or rest to surpass the inventor of the Breath of the Sun Yoriichi and was the inventor of the Breath of the Moon which others couldn't learn for the same reasons they couldn't learn the Breath of the Sun which caused him to be the sole practitioner of that specific style and who considered the capabilities of the 14 year old Muichiro who became a Pillar at 11 years old after 2 months of training to be expected of a descendent of himself. Tanjiro managed to decapitate Akaza, a martial arts prodigy with centuries of experience who managed to massacre an entire kendo dojo with his bare hands as a human, right after loudly declaring that he was going to do exactly that.

 

[Rikimarox2]

The Fear Manipulation and Paralysis Inducement Resistance comes from resisting the effects of Battle Spirit which is an overwhelming Aura which is based on the intent to fight, so that seems close enough to killing intent to me especially since the Statistics Reduction is described as being because of the pressure of the killing intent. Tanjiro also possesses Reactive Power Level that allows him to adapt to those who casually outclass him in terms of power and speed with him getting faster the longer a fight lasts and having explosive growth in critical moments.

I mean, so does Jin. Also Jin resisted the killing intent shit, but still got slowed regardless, so I don't really see Tanjiro resisting it.

These abilities are the result of the Transparent World ability which not only has Precognition and Analytical Prediction but also Information Analysis and Enhanced Sight that allows Tanjiro to straight up see into the insides of Tae's body and see things like how his body is trained and if he has any illnesses which is how he can directly see muscles and blood flow. It also makes him resistant against Enhanced Senses, Precognition and Extrasensory Perception. Tanjiro's sense of smell can detect what sort of person someone is, what they feel and to an extent how strong they are.

I mean, wouldn't this work against him? The last part, I mean. He would notice that Tae is weaker than himself by a lot, and probably wouldn't go all out. Hell, Tae likes to start with shit like Danmaku, and since he knows that Tanjiro is much stronger than him, and if he begins to dodge the danmaku, dude will get pissed, and just use his absorption to get the job done.

In fact, you can even make the argument that since Tanjiro is like 5x stronger, Tae might even resort to absorption immediately, since that's the entire point of the absorption, to absorb the essence of strong martial artists to the point they become useless, that's the entire reason why he made this ability. Although it is not a 100% certainty, but Tae did immediately try to use his absorption on Jin once he realized how strong he was and how he dodged.

And about the senses part, I doubt it matters by much when he already fought against Jin, whose sensing are pretty close, since he can sense anything for 13 miles straight, even the buzzing of the bees and the rustling of the leaves.

Or even if he did, Tae can notice if he will be killed or not the moment that Tanjiro begins swinging his swords, and just use his Absorption.

But even ignoring that, how exactly would Tanjiro bypass the forcefield that reflects at 3x strength, and the intense wind that it brings that shreds everything? It needed an attack that straight up one shotted him and shredded him, to the point that Chi left his body in order to be broken. And even then, he just got the chi back and one shotted the dude afterwards.

I've realized that Tanjiro's Breath of the Sun has High-Mid Regeneration Negation, so Tae Mu-Kang can't regenerate no matter where Tanjiro strikes and if the injury is debilitating, then Tae Mu-Kang won't be able to recover from that.

Doesn't change much, really. Jin also had regen neg, and Tae couldn't regen from it. He still defeated Jin.

The thing is that Breath of the Sun couldn't be learned or matched by anyone outside of Tanjiro's family and the inventor of the style for 500 years and that includes Kokushibo who trained for 500 years as a demon who doesn't need to sleep or rest to surpass the inventor of the Breath of the Sun Yoriichi, was the inventor of the Breath of the Moon which others couldn't learn for the same reasons they couldn't learn the Breath of the Sun and who considered the capabilities of the 14 year old Muichiro who became a Pillar at 11 years old after 2 months of training to be expected of a descendent of himself. Tanjiro managed to decapitate Akaza a martial arts prodigy with centuries of experience who managed to massacre an entire kendo dojo with his bare hands as a human right after declaring that he was going to do exactly that.

I mean, sure that's impressive, but Jin's martial arts was the most powerful and difficult in the last 4 generations, to the point that it was feared globally and was considered the strongest and most powerful martial arts. It was threatening to people who are like 150+ years old, and were afraid shitless. There are chances that there are people who are centuries old, but the manhwa still hasn't been updated, neither has the novel. Also, you sure it was because it was so hard to learn, or are there requirements to learn it? Are there any more context to this?

It was the strongest martial arts, that it needed a huge ass group (200+ martial art masters) and the betrayal of people of the same sect in order to just take down the leader of one generation. And people who trained to learn the martial arts couldn't even do so.

Not to mention, the leaders of these generation are skilled af, as they scale to, if not above Jin, who could master martial arts with a glance.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Oh yeah, are there any other skill feats in the series? Like, stuff like not getting hit once in a fight or smth?

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I mean, so does Jin. Also Jin resisted the killing intent shit, but still got slowed regardless, so I don't really see Tanjiro resisting it.

I mean, wouldn't this work against him? The last part, I mean. He would notice that Tae is weaker than himself by a lot, and probably wouldn't go all out. Hell, Tae likes to start with shit like Danmaku, and since he knows that Tanjiro is much stronger than him, and if he begins to dodge the danmaku, dude will get pissed, and just use his absorption to get the job done.

But even ignoring that, how exactly would Tanjiro bypass the forcefield that reflects at 3x strength, and the intense wind that it brings that shreds everything? It needed an attack that straight up one shotted him and shredded him, to the point that Chi left his body in order to be broken. And even then, he just got the chi back and one shotted the dude afterwards.

Doesn't change much, really. Jin also had regen neg, and Tae couldn't regen from it. He still defeated Jin.

I mean, sure that's impressive, but Jin's martial arts was the most powerful and difficult in the last 4 generations, to the point that it was feared globally and was considered the strongest and most powerful martial arts. It was threatening to people who are like 150+ years old, and were afraid shitless. There are chances that there are people who are centuries old, but the manhwa still hasn't been updated, neither has the novel. Also, you sure it was because it was so hard to learn, or are there requirements to learn it? Are there any more context to this?

Jin's resistance is only about not feeling fear when exposed to Fear Manipulation based on his justification, Tanjiro's resistance is about specifically resisting the effects of a type of aura and Tae's killing intent is apparently an aura and would be included in the term Battle Spirit. Battle Spirit was explained to be something that everyone has to some degree with even newborn babies having a really faint Battle Spirit and it includes any and all aggressive intents and serious attempts to attack.

Not really. Tanjiro is a pretty humble person with a strong sense of responsibility, so if he thinks that he can kill a dangerous monster which actively goes around hurting people, then he is going to do his best to do exactly that as soon as he can. Due to Transparent World he is resistant against Extrasensory Perception and there have been instances where the ability made it so that people who could usually use their Extrasensory Perception to tell how strong someone is didn't sense anything, so I don't think that Tae can perceive how strong Tanjiro is until Tanjiro is actually attacking.

So, it was stated that it requires that much force to bypass the forcefield or does it have feats of withstanding attacks superior to Tae Mu-Kang but weaker than that one attack that did break through it?

It's just an additional factor that aids Tanjiro since he will primarily launch attacks with the purpose of inflicting lethal injuries.

Well, the creator of the Breath of the Sun is Yoriichi who was born with a Demon Slayer Mark, Transparent World and the ability to use Total Concentration Breathing. When he was 7 years old he instantly defeated his brother Michikatsu's sword instructor even though he never held a sword before and was only taught how to properly hold it. At 17 years old he joined the Demon Slayer Corps and after noticing that they didn't use Total Concentration Breathing taught them it and after noticing that no one could master his Breath of the Sun he adjusted it to the strengths of whoever he was teaching which created multiple different styles. This makes the Breath of the Sun the first and strongest style of Total Concentration Breathing and by teaching Total Concentration Breathing Yoriichi single-handedly induced what was dubbed the golden age of demon slaying. Later in his life he showcased his Breath of the Sun once to Tanjiro's ancestors who somehow managed to imitate it well enough to pass it down as a traditional dance. No special conditions or requirements are really known since no one outside of Tanjiro's family, which have been simple coal burners since the time the Breath of the Sun has begun to be passed down, and Yoriichi are capable of it and Tanjiro and Yoriichi aren't related with Tanjiro's ancestor being a friend whose life Yoriichi saved.

Oh yeah, are there any other skill feats in the series? Like, stuff like not getting hit once in a fight or smth?

Well:

• Tanjiro managed to defeat Yoriichi Type Zero with its six arms and swords and 108 techniques in his third key.
• He could adapt to fighting in a room where the orientation of gravity was constantly rotating while having broken ribs and a broken leg that weren't fully healed in his first key.
• His first key was also able to continuously dodge a total of six balls that were controlled by someone with Vector Manipulation that made them constantly follow Tanjiro.
• His second key was able to fully execute his Breath of Water's Tenth Form on top of a moving train despite being constantly put into sleep and having to wake up by killing himself inside the dream.
• He has consistent feats of being able to fight competently mid-air.
• He was able to change the Form he was using in the middle of his sword swing on two occasions in his first key.
• He was able to effectively fight underwater in his first key.
• He can utilize the Breath of Water in conjunction with the Breath of the Sun in order to reduce the strain on his stamina and utilize some of the properties of the Breath of Water to his advantage which is an idea he spontaneously came up with and applied in the middle of a fight.
• He was able to create Waltz Flash to boost his speed based on a memory of Zenitsu explaining his Breath of Thunder while chasing Hantengu despite this being supposed to be a difficult thing to do.
• Tanjiro has Accelerated Development with it being stated that his practical experience of fighting Upper Moon 6 is equivalent to 5 to 10 years of training.
• He can spontaneously create modified versions of his Forms to adapt to a situation or opponent.

 

[Lynieryz]

I've realized that Tanjiro's Breath of the Sun has High-Mid Regeneration Negation, so Tae Mu-Kang can't regenerate no matter where Tanjiro strikes and if the injury is debilitating, then Tae Mu-Kang won't be able to recover from that.

I don't think this is applicable against a human??

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I don't think this is applicable against a human??

Tae Mu-Kang isn't a human though and I don't think that there was a statement for the Regeneration Negation being only effective on demons. I guess there would also be the part where the slashed section feels like as if it's burning.

 

[Lynieryz]

Tae Mu-Kang isn't a human though and I don't think that there was a statement for the Regeneration Negation being only effective on demons. I guess there would also be the part where the slashed section feels like as if it's burning.

Sun breathing has never been shown to negate a non oni's regeneration and still has the whole oni thing about having weakness against the sun.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Sun breathing has never been shown to negate a non oni's regeneration and still has the whole oni thing about having weakness against the sun.

That's because only demons in the series really have any potent Regeneration capabilities. The weakness is already being made use of via the Nichirin sword and Total Concentration Breathing itself doesn't channel the power of the sun unlike for example Hamon from the JoJo series. The elements they generate are also generally just a matter of perception, so there is no evidence of the Breath of the Sun actually somehow utilizing the power of the sun to hamper Demon Regeneration.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Bump.