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Yes. It's an extremely common starting move. Along with mindhax that scales to the thousands and has a few meters of range. Or a time slow with his bow and arrow into a headshot.Is that his opening move? Also I'm pretty sure Yoriichi has precog, as well as passive fear aura/stat amps so he should be much faster than Talion
Uruk are capable of parrying Shadow Strike with no damage through skill, and the non-fodders can avoid receiving critical damage from it as long as their health is not low.
One of the cinematics depicts Shadow Strike as a high-speed spectral dash (time stamp 0:52):
Dark Talion still has normal shadow strike? Not sure what you're saying there.Which is consistent with the Nazgûl and Dark Talion versions of Shadow Strike being dodged and parried in cutscenes and gameplay.
Well wouldn't just passive fear hax be an insta-stomp anyway? LmaoYoriichi would be able to replicate the same thing with Thunder Breathing, and with precog/information analysis he would be able to figure out the most efficient way to kill Talion, especially that he is bloodlusted.
After analyzing his opponent's body (who he praised the speed of), he custom-made a twelve-part combo that flows like a dance on the spot, which his opponent couldn't defend against.
This is extremely NLF btwOne of the techniques involves creating an afterimage that tricks sight regardless of how good it is
What is this "works on people massively faster" bs you've been trying to push? The obvious solution is that they're just not massively faster if someone can keep up with them., and it is proven to work even when the opponent is massively faster.
"the average human is properly more likely to resist it than the average Uruk"Branding can be resisted with will power, and this applies to Uruk; the average human is properly more likely to resist it than the average Uruk, let alone Yoriichi.
This is literally how mindhax potency works thoThe number of people that can get branded doesn't reflect the potency of the mindhax,
Direct touch? Did you ever actually play the game?since it is applied individually, and Talion direct touch to attempt it.
No lmao it's an instantaneous stomp because of fearhax. Talion resists Sauron's mindhax but he never resists any kind of fearhax.I believe it is more important to discuss whether Talion can resist passive bloodlusted fearhax. Even getting stunned for a bit can be a death sentence.
Or the technique doesn't literally insta-teleports a sword into their throat, but is a dash pseudo-teleport.So skill in-verse lets people deflect teleporting a sword into their throat :cringe:
Guess Talion outskills teleportation
Guess the cinematic adds more context.That's just also not what's shown in gameplay, so not sure why this means anything.
His skill is still named Shadow Strike and functions similarly in gameplay.Dark Talion still has normal shadow strike? Not sure what you're saying there.
Not a conclusion, but what the narrator says: "The better an opponent's vision is... the clearer they'll see your false after-image". And this is against an opponent who said that it is boring how slow Tanjiro is.This is extremely NLF btw
Nope, worked on someone casually blitzing him through pure speed while holding back (repeatedly seemingly teleport in front of him, seemingly teleport away from his attack). Tanjiro is only able to keep up in movement speed defensively in short bursts, aided with precog.What is this "works on people massively faster" bs you've been trying to push? The obvious solution is that they're just not massively faster if someone can keep up with them.
Mindhax potency is judged by a variety of factors. If Talion could apply a brand on thousands of Uruks at the same time, if it is stated that maintaining brands uses mental focus (which can potentially be directed at a single person), or if there weren't anti-feats of failing to brand Uruks simply because they aren't mentally broken, then an argument can be made that it is potent.This is literally how mindhax potency works tho
If you say so. Thought Talion would have some resistance.No lmao it's an instantaneous stomp because of fearhax. Talion resists Sauron's mindhax but he never resists any kind of fearhax.
It is stated that when Nazgul die their soul persist, and the souls gathers strength until they can take physical form; Talion said that this makes them banished from death (something he was described as). When Talion dies, enough time passes for new captains to establish themselves; this should be enough to qualify as knocking Talion out for one hour and likely incapitatates him for over a day.Also this is like incon at-best cause of type 4 immortality
Fine by me. I assume Naitodesu and Axx are fine as well.I was told that this thread is a likely stomp. Should it be closed?
Or it's just a blatant teleport.Or the technique doesn't literally insta-teleports a sword into their throat, but is a dash pseudo-teleport.
Or it's a stretch using non-canon material to claim a technique isn't what it is.Guess the cinematic adds more context.
blocks a sword swing that's blatantly telegraphedHis skill is still named Shadow Strike and functions similarly in gameplay.
If it was true teleportation, it would not be possible for Talion and Eltariel to block Nazgul teleportation attacks in cinematics and gameplay.
Either way, Talion's wraith vision would get around that. Still NLF, though.Not a conclusion, but what the narrator says: "The better an opponent's vision is... the clearer they'll see your false after-image". And this is against an opponent who said that it is boring how slow Tanjiro is.
You physically can not keep up with someone who is blitzing you. That's not how that works, the solution is that the speed gap isn't actually that big. There literally HAS to be a speed amp there.Nope, worked on someone casually blitzing him through pure speed while holding back (repeatedly seemingly teleport in front of him, seemingly teleport away from his attack). Tanjiro is only able to keep up in movement speed defensively in short bursts, aided with precog.
But no? None of those are requirements.Mindhax potency is judged by a variety of factors. If Talion could apply a brand on thousands of Uruks at the same time, if it is stated that maintaining brands uses mental focus (which can potentially be directed at a single person), or if there weren't anti-feats of failing to brand Uruks simply because they aren't mentally broken, then an argument can be made that it is potent.
Nah. He just has apparent decades of resisting Sauron's mindhax, there's never any showcase of fear manip in the games, I don't think.If you say so. Thought Talion would have some resistance.
What? It's literally in the same day.It is stated that when Nazgul die their soul persist, and the souls gathers strength until they can take physical form; Talion said that this makes them banished from death (something he was described as). When Talion dies, enough time passes for new captains to establish themselves; this should be enough to qualify as knocking Talion out for one hour and likely incapitatates him for over a day.
But yes, it can be closed.
By the way, it is questionable that the 8-A cave earthquake calc Talion scales to wouldn't be considered localized shaking after the 2019 earthquake revision. Though content revision for the main LotR verse takes priority.
Fine by me. I assume Naitodesu and Axx are fine as well.